HF Westerns

[TallTallMan]

The glass used on movie sets for the specific purpose of having someone thrown through them are made from sugar! it's just a big sheet of candy!

Sugar glass (also called candy glass, edible glass, and breakaway glass) is a brittle transparent form of sugar used to simulate glass in movies, photographs and plays. It is much less likely to cause injuries than real glass, and it easily breaks convincingly, making it an excellent choice for stunts. Sugar glass is also used to make sugar sculptures. Because sugar glass is hygroscopic, it must be used soon after preparation, or it will soften and lose its brittle quality.

What do they use for broken glass pieces in movies?

Most of action movies involve tremendous amounts of explosions and shattered glass. I remember watching Die Hard (1988) and the amount of broken glass made me wonder, what was it made of to keep ac...

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Thanks for the info!

HPD is a great movie but with one glaring plothole: a town of about thirty was scared of three guys? They had a gun shop.

 

[Pollaco]

Something to consider when debating the entire "who is the fastest" is the weaponry itself.
The firearms being produced during the time period these movies are based on would not hold up very well under the abuse constant quick draw. Especially when you see a gunfighter taking on more than one bad guy.
With that in mind one movie that IMO is close to reality is Open Range with Kevin Costner and Robert Duvall.

I often thought about just how a leaf spring would not hold up if the revolver were "fanned" alot (Shane style). It seems like the newer ones with coil springs would hold up better.

 

[Pollaco]

Thanks for the info!

HPD is a great movie but with one glaring plothole: a town of about thirty was scared of three guys? They had a gun shop.

I imagine the "scared townfolk" thing is mostly Hollywood.A lot of those townfolk were Civil War veterans and very well knew how to use guns. Just ask the good people of Northfield, Mn.

 

[TallTallMan]

I imagine the "scared townfolk" thing is mostly Hollywood.A lot of those townfolk were Civil War veterans and very well knew how to use guns. Just ask the good people of Northfield, Mn.

I always joke with people I meet is how in Westerns nobody reacts to deaths in saloons. If a guy walked into a bar right now and shot somebody the whole place would come crashing down and they'd scream and they'd call the cops and all, even if it were a biker club. In a Western some guy gets shot and they stand there all dopey.

It's mostly in the Howard Hawks Trilogy that has this trope.

 

[Sbc]

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I wanted to start a big ol' thread for all Western fans, to talk about movies, TV shows, video games, etc. (This is CW-related, since the majority of Westerns involve it in some way.)

I'll start by listing my favorite Western movies, and why.

The 2007 remake of 3:10 to Yuma is probably my favorite Western. I'm a big fan of the orignial, but this one blew my mind. It's not only exhilirating, but emotionally effective and surprising. The original goes on my favorite list too.

The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is literally perfect, and it can only be justified by a viewing.

The Good the Bad and the Ugly is the only Leone film I like. I was never crazy about his lengthy art-farts.

Unforgiven is still a masterpiece, one of the most authentic period pieces ever made.

The Gunfighter is a good obscure, black-and-white one, where Gregory Peck plays an aging gunfighter trying to reunite with his wife. Unforgiven but less sad, but still sad.

The Searchers needs no introduction.

Nor Lonesome Dove.

The Ox-Bow Incident screws with the mind!

Nevada Smith is a forgotten vehicle, very long but effective. Probably the only thing by Henry Hathaway I consider masterful.

You next!

Once Upon a Time in the West is not only the best Leone film, and best western (an ode to the genre), it is the best film ever made.

 

[Sbc]

I'm not much for old Westerns, especially as I don't care for John Wayne.

My favorites:

Tombstone

The Quick & The Dead

True Grit (the remake)

3:10 to Yuma (the remake),
especially for its haunting meditation on honor and cowardice.

The Magnificent Seven (remake)

Unforgiven

Honorable mentions to Firefly/Serenity and Hell or High Water, which are essentially Westerns in other settings.

Hell or High Water was great but it wasn't a western.

 

[Sbc]

Once Upon a Time in the West is a must see. Henry Fonda should have gotten an Oscar for his "bad guy" portrayal. As Vil Kilmer should have gotten a best supporting Oscar for his Doc Holliday impression in Tombstone. Superb acting in both parts.

People now don't realize what a shock it was for viewers to see Fonda revealed as a ruthless killer in this film.

 

[Sbc]

Leo Gordon could put a chill down your spine just by looking at you. He had a criminal past but got into acting and wrote scripts for TV shows as well. Looking at old episodes of Gunsmoke you see a lot of those old character actors and some young actors like Richard Dreyfuss and Jon Voigt who later became famous.

Loved his character in Beau Geste

 

[Pollaco]

I've often wondered where all those people in the saloons came from. Especially at night, the saloons were always crowded.

 

[Sbc]

The original Stagecoach with the young John Wayne. For that matter, anything made by John Ford.

Orson Welles was was once asked who was the greatest American director. He replied "John Ford, John Ford, and John Ford".

 

[Pollaco]

Once Upon a Time in the West is not only the best Leone film, and best western (an ode to the genre), it is the best film ever made.

You'll get no argument from me.

 

[Sbc]

Kinda surprised Brad Pitts brooding portrayal of Jesse hasn't been mentioned. Casey Affleck nailed the unlikable Robert Ford.

Brad Pitt: character actor trapped in a leading man's body. Most overrated actor of our time

 

[Sbc]

A plot with a twist, proper technology, good actors and Claudia Cardinale. My favorite is still "Once Upon a Time in the West". I somehow feel many have yet to discover this gem?

Ooh la la! CC was a knock out

 

[Sbc]

I think you mean "Ford Wayne Trilogy". Am a big Huston fan too!

Pale Rider is 1000% better than Shane. The Westerns Eastwood directed are a lot more realistic in look and style and the way they act and talk. Pale Rider and Unforgiven are the closest to reality 1880s movies ever.

Grittier perhaps but not 1000% better. Come on, Jack Palance is a stronger bad guy than Gene Hackman.

 

[Sbc]

He got banned from Disneyland that same trip.

?? Chuck or Leonid?

 

[Pollaco]

People now don't realize what a shock it was for viewers to see Fonda revealed as a ruthless killer in this film.

I read that Fonda took along his brown contacts. Leone told him "no deal", that he wanted to see those icy blue eyes.Bravo for Leone. I still think Henry Fonda should have gotten or at least been nominated for an Oscar.

 

[Sbc]

High Noon was a great flick, I have never figured out why the FBI declared it communist propaganda, but then, the FBI said that about 'It's a Wonderful Life."
The Oxbow Incident is another great western that the FBI declared propaganda, talk about paranoid
Just shut up and enjoy the movie.

Some say it was a screed about Mcarthuism

 

[Pollaco]

Not only was "Once Upon a Time in the West" Henry Fonda's first shot at being the "bad guy"in a western but I think it was also a first for Woody Strode in that role.

 

[Sbc]

Yes, my mistake. That's the film.

Opening scene "putain paysage" from the Frenchies

 

[Sbc]

And Rod Steiger

Yep "Duck you Sucker"