HF Westerns

[TallTallMan]

The actual actors who demonstrated the fastest draw ability in real live. Jerry Lewis and Sammy Davis Jr. Davis could draw a gun at between 4/10ths and 4.5/10ths of a second. He also had very impressive gun twirling skills. Hugh O'Brian drew in 1/4 of a second. But reports state that Lewis and Davis were quicker. O'Brian challenged Audie Murphy but then declined when Murphy accepted but insisted on using live ammunition. Others who demonstrated fast draw abilities were Wally Cox, (The voice of Under Dog), Hugh Downs, Dancer Donald O'Connor, Singers Marty Robbins and Frankie Lane. Other fast draws you might expect were Glenn Ford, (Who had been timed at 4/10ths of a second), Clu Gulager, Clint Eastwood, Jock Mahoney and Ernest Borgnine. Jerry Lewis could also demonstrate very good gun twirling skills.
Other gun enthusiast were Merv Griffith who was a competitive trap shooter, and would routinely practice on his terrace behind his Hollywood Hills home, much to the dislike of his neighbors, and Lon Chaney and Chaney Jr..
None of them were as fast as Bob Munden but he was a freak of nature.

Extremely unlikely.

I agree both are unlikely scenarios I asked the same question on a different forum and am getting opposite replies. So far 3 different people have answered that it can be done.

Speaking of fast draws, these idiots just stand there...

 

[Kurtlg]

I agree both are unlikely scenarios I asked the same question on a different forum and am getting opposite replies. So far 3 different people have answered that it can be done.

If a forum member would like to demonstrate it I would change my answer. Under the right circumstances perhaps. I'm not an expert on smokeless powder.

 

[Kurtlg]

Speaking of fast draws, these idiots just stand there...

Not demonstrated in this clip but another issue with Hollywood is when someone getting shot flies back several feet through the air. There was an example of this in Open Range where some one is hit by a shotgun blast.

 

[Pollaco]

Speaking of fast draws, these idiots just stand there...

Have you ever noticed that in some westerns the "bad guy" losing the draw actually gets off the first shot? I think you'll hear Wilson's (Jack Palance) gun go off before he catches Shane's bullet.Oops, bad example, I just remembered Shane was mortally wounded.

 

[Kurtlg]

Have you ever noticed that in some westerns the "bad guy" losing the draw actually gets off the first shot? I think you'll hear Wilson's (Jack Palance) gun go off before he catches Shane's bullet.Oops, bad example, I just remembered Shane was mortally wounded.

I think in the opening of Gunsmoke Matt Dillon usually shot last.

 

[damYankee]

Speaking of fast draws, these idiots just stand there...

You do realize the blood was strawberry jam, or in black and white movies they used chocolate syrup.
These are "movies," they are "make believe" trust me on this, Clint Eastwood never killed anyone.
He ain't a Baldwin.

 

[Pollaco]

I don't know where Hollywood got the idea that being hit by a gun of any kind would knock you for a loop or make you do somersaults. "The Quick and the Dead" with Gene Hackman way over does that . John Wayne shooting George Plimpton in Rio Lobo had Plimpton wearing a harness and was jerked backwards when "shot". Maybe that's where Hollywood got the idea? If John Wayne said so it must be true.

 

[TallTallMan]

Not demonstrated in this clip but another issue with Hollywood is when someone getting shot flies back several feet through the air. There was an example of this in Open Range where some one is hit by a shotgun blast.

I saw Open Range on INSP two years ago so I don't remember that. They censor some gory stuff. I might just be desensitized to ridiculous backflipping and don't remember

 

[TallTallMan]

I don't know where Hollywood got the idea that being hit by a gun of any kind would knock you for a loop or make you do somersaults. "The Quick and the Dead" with Gene Hackman way over does that . John Wayne shooting George Plimpton in Rio Lobo had Plimpton wearing a harness and was jerked backwards when "shot". Maybe that's where Hollywood got the idea? If John Wayne said so it must be true.

In Rio Lobo a guy at the end gets shot and he literally throws his gun into a flip in the air. I'm gonna go look for the Plimpton on my JW DVD set in a second.

 

[TallTallMan]

You do realize the blood was strawberry jam, or in black and white movies they used chocolate syrup.
These are "movies," they are "make believe" trust me on this, Clint Eastwood never killed anyone.
He ain't a Baldwin.

It just looks like these guys just stand there as Clint slowly blows them away. Also, I have a glass door to the backyard and have bodily hit it and never broke it, not once. Glass must be pretty thin in Lago, California (the fictional town Clint's in in the movie.)

 

[MAJOR DUNDEE]

When was that?

I guess it was in "El Cid" from Anthony Mann (not a Western, but he plays a spanish character).

 

[TallTallMan]

Hey, our friend Christopher Forbes from my most infamous thread made Westerns!

 

[MAJOR DUNDEE]

Have you ever noticed that in some westerns the "bad guy" losing the draw actually gets off the first shot? I think you'll hear Wilson's (Jack Palance) gun go off before he catches Shane's bullet.Oops, bad example, I just remembered Shane was mortally wounded.

I hope not...let's say he is wounded, but he rides again and comes to heal his wound.

 

[TallTallMan]

I hope not...let's say he is wounded, but he rides again and comes to heal his wound.

That was my headcanon for Glory's ending. They all went on adventures in the west after that cannon misfired.

 

[Pollaco]

I guess it was in "El Cid" from Anthony Mann (not a Western, but he plays a spanish character).

I've seen Red Headed Spaniards who were whiter than me

 

[Tennessee Union Gal]

The Searchers
Fort Apache
The Magnificent Seven (Original)
The Big Country

 

[damYankee]

Oh yeah, bro? In The Gunfighter Gregory Peck is so fast you never see it.

Considering he was carrying his Iron on his right hip and drawing with his left hand, I'm thinking it was all in the editing, Bro,

 

[damYankee]

Something to consider when debating the entire "who is the fastest" is the weaponry itself.
The firearms being produced during the time period these movies are based on would not hold up very well under the abuse constant quick draw. Especially when you see a gunfighter taking on more than one bad guy.
With that in mind one movie that IMO is close to reality is Open Range with Kevin Costner and Robert Duvall.

 

[Sheltowee]

Something to consider when debating the entire "who is the fastest" is the weaponry itself.
The firearms being produced during the time period these movies are based on would not hold up very well under the abuse constant quick draw. Especially when you see a gunfighter taking on more than one bad guy.
With that in mind one movie that IMO is close to reality is Open Range with Kevin Costner and Robert Duvall.

Amen…..

 

[damYankee]

It just looks like these guys just stand there as Clint slowly blows them away. Also, I have a glass door to the backyard and have bodily hit it and never broke it, not once. Glass must be pretty thin in Lago, California (the fictional town Clint's in in the movie.)

The glass used on movie sets for the specific purpose of having someone thrown through them are made from sugar! it's just a big sheet of candy!

Sugar glass (also called candy glass, edible glass, and breakaway glass) is a brittle transparent form of sugar used to simulate glass in movies, photographs and plays. It is much less likely to cause injuries than real glass, and it easily breaks convincingly, making it an excellent choice for stunts. Sugar glass is also used to make sugar sculptures. Because sugar glass is hygroscopic, it must be used soon after preparation, or it will soften and lose its brittle quality.

What do they use for broken glass pieces in movies?

Most of action movies involve tremendous amounts of explosions and shattered glass. I remember watching Die Hard (1988) and the amount of broken glass made me wonder, what was it made of to keep ac...

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