HF Westerns

[Pollaco]

The Searchers is a movie that could easily be remade today (plot). The artistry however is pure John Ford. The framing at the end is how a director makes his mark.

If you notice there is usually some scene in a John Ford Western with the wind and dust blowing.Some actress made the remark that Ford is lucky in that the wind seems to cooperate.It blows when he needs it to. Ford's remark was "Ever hear of fans?"

 

[Pollaco]

The Hopi Indians created a Kachina doll in honor of John Ford and John Wayne. It seems there was hunger in the Indan village and the actor and director (who were nearby shooting a western) sent over a truck loaded with watermelons. The doll looked similar to other "kachinas" but has the head of a watermelon and has stripes. I'm not sure of the details, it was a black and white photo. I think all of this happened back in th 50s or possibly the 60s. I wish I still had a picture of that doll but I think I accidentally discarded it.I would have loved to forward it.John Wayne collected Kachina Dolls.Somehow you just don't picture Him as doll collector.

 

[A. Roy]

Is the book titled the same as the movie?

Yes, the book title is also The Shootist, by Glendon Swarthout.
AB

 

[TallTallMan]

Once Upon a Time in the West is not only the best Leone film, and best western (an ode to the genre), it is the best film ever made.

I've seen it more than once. I think its too cliched, given the scope of the film. I always wished Leone would've told a more original story. The actors were pretty good, minus the robotic Bronson.

I do like its symbolism for the dying genre.

 

[TallTallMan]

Some say it was a screed about Mcarthuism

I'm sure High Noon was. It's a Wonderful Life ends with "sharing wealth", but it of course is not a Marxist movie in the slightest. The Ox-Bow Incident is ridiculous, if anybody thnks so. Someone I know thinks How Green is My Valley is socialistic, which it isn't.

All four are excellent films. Shut up and enjoy.

 

[Kurtlg]

I'm sure High Noon was. It's a Wonderful Life ends with "sharing wealth", but it of course is not a Marxist movie in the slightest. The Ox-Bow Incident is ridiculous, if anybody thnks so. Someone I know thinks How Green is My Valley is socialistic, which it isn't.

All four are excellent films. Shut up and enjoy.

I think one of the issues Hoover had was with the writers , not always the movie. He was a moron.

 

[Josh The Lighthouse Guy]

I think one of the issues Hoover had was with the writers , not always the movie. He was a moron.

It's worth remembering he spent his career spiraling into severe mental illness. Everyone around him, or with authority over him, was seemingly too afraid of him to do something about it.

 

[carptrash]

Even the suave Dean Martin was equally at home in either a Tuxedo or western garb.

How ever Martin's "Dean Sings Country" (or whatever it is called) is not quite as comfortable a fit.

 

[carptrash]

We've seen some actors who were superb in their roles. Can you think of any who were just the opposite? As in they just did not look the part. The first to come to mind is John Wayne as Davy Crockett.

Well we don't have to leave Wayne, only have to look at his roles in the Centurion at the crucifixion in "The Greatest Story Ever Told" and as Genghis Khan in "The Conqueror."

 

[CavRTO]

Well we don't have to leave Wayne, only have to look at his roles in the Centurion at the crucifixion in "The Greatest Story Ever Told" and as Genghis Khan in "The Conqueror."

The usual John Wayne as John Wayne. To me he was a one dimensional actor. He didn't have the acting range of so many of his peers.

 

[Booklady]

I'm sure High Noon was. It's a Wonderful Life ends with "sharing wealth", but it of course is not a Marxist movie in the slightest. The Ox-Bow Incident is ridiculous, if anybody thnks so. Someone I know thinks How Green is My Valley is socialistic, which it isn't.

All four are excellent films. Shut up and enjoy.

How Green Was My Valley is a pale reflection of the book.

 

[TallTallMan]

The usual John Wayne as John Wayne. To me he was a one dimensional actor. He didn't have the acting range of so many of his peers.

Then you've never seen The Cowboys or The Shootist. He makes you cry, and is very subtle in many scenes.

 

[CavRTO]

Then you've never seen The Cowboys or The Shootist. He makes you cry, and is very subtle in many scenes.

Yes, I have seen both and I stand by my opinion. I knew when I posted it that I'd get incoming and totally understand why. He was definitely an icon to many such as yourself.

 

[Pollaco]

Absolutely. To me (not only) Western's film era covers 1770-1917 (from "Unconquered" to "They came to Cordura"...both staring Gary Cooper).

Would "Sgt York" be considered a western?

 

[archieclement]

Then you've never seen The Cowboys or The Shootist. He makes you cry, and is very subtle in many scenes.

And my fav, mabye not so subtle

 

[wausaubob]

The Searchers
Once Upon A Time In The West
Jeremiah Johnson
Red River (original)

The Searchers.

 

[CavRTO]

And my fav, mabye not so subtle

Aha! So you're into spanking and S&M. You old rascal.

 

[damYankee]

The Searchers back story; While filming the movie one of the Navajo actors, and elderly woman, broke down crying, Wayne heard her as he walked through the set and asked what was wrong, She said her grand daughter was ill and needed emergency surgery and she couldn't get home in time. So Wayne had his private plane readied, and had his pilot fly her home to New Mexico, and paid her full wages while missing from the filming.
Say what you will about Wayne,

 

[Pollaco]

I turned to the Grit channel now and then and everytime the Lone Ranger with Clayton Moore popped up. I assumed they were showing a Lone Ranger Marathon. It was the 1956 movie "The Lone Ranger" being broadcast. I wasn't aware Clayton Moore and Jay Silverheels ever made a movie.

 

[Sheltowee]

Which is the real deal?

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