Musket Gun identification

[Rfourn]

Yup. Why not? it could have been made AFTER 1855 too. Trade guns in particular were well behind technical advances since they were using, and were supplied, with OLD technology. For example North West Trade guns were mainly flintlock because black powder was all that was available. What is the point of selling a percussion gun when you can't get hold of percussion caps? if this IS a British gun (which I know it is) all this was available beyond 1870 (export only) even when the British market was concentrating on breech-loaders. (The Snider and other cartridge weapons were VERY expensive in the civil market) It looks like a civil gun made around 1840-50 so it is percussion all the way. Given the backlock, it could even be from the 1830s, and getting 'old' in the 1840s.
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Durs Egg was a famous London Gunmaker who died in 1831.

Thank You for your detail info! Man this is more difficult then I emagined. I sent pictures to the Museum of Gaspesie where my Great Grandfather is from.I'm hoping maybe it will be a common gun in the area at the time.I'm sure learning a lot about old guns.

 

[Rfourn]

Yup. Why not? it could have been made AFTER 1855 too. Trade guns in particular were well behind technical advances since they were using, and were supplied, with OLD technology. For example North West Trade guns were mainly flintlock because black powder was all that was available. What is the point of selling a percussion gun when you can't get hold of percussion caps? if this IS a British gun (which I know it is) all this was available beyond 1870 (export only) even when the British market was concentrating on breech-loaders. (The Snider and other cartridge weapons were VERY expensive in the civil market) It looks like a civil gun made around 1840-50 so it is percussion all the way. Given the backlock, it could even be from the 1830s, and getting 'old' in the 1840s.
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Durs Egg was a famous London Gunmaker who died in 1831.

Here's a reply I got on the gun…after looking at the gun with more detail it just might have been a parts gun!

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The barrel is English but it does not really matter h the rest of the gun which looks either Belgian or even American. The barrel to breach fitting is poor and would have never passed inspection by an English maker. Seems to be missing the barrel wedge but not sure. Definitely missing the ram rod keeper. It would be all English as there were some back action locks used by English makers, but the details don't add up for English. Since the barrel does not really match the rest of the shotgun the assembly date could be anything but probably 1850-1870. Can he get some closeups of any marking on the lock?

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This is where I requested lock pics:


Nothing of note on the lock so I am sticking with this is an 1850s Mass Market shotgun with a Birmingham proofed barrel. It could be made by the Birmingham trade or Belgian. Could also be assembled here in the USA. The lack of nose cap on the fore-stock pushes me more towards something assembled outside of the Birmingham trade. The trigger guard is a pretty standard part seen in that era. The engraving is also very basic. So, without a makers name, it is hard to go much further as these were so common. Definitely not a flintlock conversion.