Lincoln & McClellan

[jsar]

Does anyone know exactly where the photos of Lincoln and McClellan were taken? I want to visit the spot if possible.

 

[Lubliner]

I believe they were right near his headquarters. The property is private as far as I know.
Lubliner.

 

[JerryD]

It was at the Grove Farm, which was where McClellan moved his headquarters after the battle, and I do believe it is private property. Its on the Shepherdstown Pike on the west side of Sharpsburg. Many think it was at the Pry House, where his headquarters were during the battle, but that is incorrect.

 

[JerryD]

Grove Farm Historical Marker

At the time of the bloody Battle of Antietam on September 17, 1862, this house was the home of Stephen P. Grove, and this was his farm. (A historical marker located near Sharpsburg in Washington County, Maryland.)

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[ErnieMac]

You can see Mount Airy (aka the Grove Farm) behind the tents in the attached photo taken by Alexander Gardner. The house is an L-shaped structure with the long sides to the northeast and northwest (closest to the road). I am not sure from which direction the photo was taken.

 

[ErnieMac]

Does anyone know exactly where the photos of Lincoln and McClellan were taken? I want to visit the spot if possible.

I dug out my copy of William Frassanito's book Antietam: The Photographic Legacy of America's Bloodiest Day which includes the photo shown in my post above and a modern photo taken from the same vantage point. By modern it should be noted his book was published in 1978. Frassanito shows the camera to have been positioned between the Sharpsburg Pike (MD Rt. 34) and the Mount Airy farmhouse and facing in a southeasterly direction. Grove Farm is private property so you're not going be able to walk to the site. The driveway into Grove Farm is the first turnoff to the left after the Sharpsburg Pharmacy and Antietam Railroad Station as you drive away from Sharpsburg toward Shepherdstown. Just past the turnoff there is a small (1/2 dozen cars) parking area which would give some view of the area.

It was at the Grove Farm, which was where McClellan moved his headquarters after the battle, and I do believe it is private property. Its on the Shepherdstown Pike on the west side of Sharpsburg. Many think it was at the Pry House, where his headquarters were during the battle, but that is incorrect.

Frassanito states the Grove Farm photo was taken at MG Fitz John Porter's Fifth Corps Headquarters. He believes the photo of Lincoln and McClellan in McClellan's headquarters tent was taken at the property of Rev. J. Adams which was located on the Harper's Ferry Road not quite two miles south of Sharpsburg. (See footnote #61 in the book.)

 

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Could these pictures of the 93d NY have been taken at the Rev J Adams property?

Antietman Civil War Photographs Mystery Location Query | Antietam / Sharpsburg

Among the pictures taken by Alexander Gardner at Antietnam Oct 4,1862 were 3 pictures of the 93d New York Volunteer Infantry Two can be found on the Library of Congress website under heading of 93d New York under listings 3c35920/ and 3c35921/ The third is in Volume 1 page 61 of Millers...

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Among the pictures taken by Alexander Gardner at Antietnam Oct 4,1862 were 3 pictures of the 93d New York Volunteer Infantry
Two can be found on the Library of Congress website under heading of 93d New York under listings 3c35920/ and 3c35921/
The third is in Volume 1 page 61 of Millers Photographic History of the Civil war

The "T" shaped fence
All pictures show the corner of a field with a rail fence going up from top to bottom on the left and then going left to right....just below the top of the hill where horses are grazing....from above the Fence would look like a "T"
Also the fence post are not on level ground but are goung up a hillside...

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Library of Congress versions

93d New York Infantry, Antietam, Md, Sept., 1862

1 photographic print on card mount : albumen.
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93d New York Infantry, Antietam, Md, Sept., 1862 (i.e. Oct. 4, 1862)

1 photographic print on card mount : albumen. | Photo shows McClellan's headquarters guard, the Ninety-third New York volunteers, including unit commander Col. John S. Crocker on horseback to immediate right of the flag. (Source for subject, date, and photographer: Antietam, by William...
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The query is where were they located when pictured?
Any idea how this location looks today..?

Lincoln and McLellan in tent [right hand side]

[Antietam, Md. President Lincoln and Gen. George B. McClellan in the general's tent]

1 negative : glass, wet collodion. | Photograph from the main eastern theater of the war, Battle of Antietam, September-October 1862.

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Note left half of picture of Lincoln and McClellan in tent

[Antietam, Md. President Lincoln and Gen. George B. McClellan in the general's tent; another view]

1 negative (2 plates) : glass, stereograph, wet collodion. | Photograph from the main eastern theater of the war, Battle of Antietam, September-October 1862.

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Could this picture have been taken just right of the officers of 93d Infantry?
This left hand picture shows in the left background a ridge[?]

could this ridge be seen in this picture of 93d Officers picture?
Here is a a 4th Picture of 3 officers of the 93d NY infntry

Antietam, Md. Colonel John S. Crocker, Lt. Colonel Benjamin C. Butler, and adjutant of 93d New York Volunteers - PICRYL - Public Domain Media Search Engine Public Domain Image

Download Image of Antietam, Md. Colonel John S. Crocker, Lt. Colonel Benjamin C. Butler, and adjutant of 93d New York Volunteers. Free for commercial use, no attribution required. Photograph from the main eastern theater of the war, Battle of Antietam, September-October 1862. Civil War...

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Here is a ridge that is similar to the picture 93d Infantry officers picture

Maryland Battery at the Battle of Antietam

This original Civil War Harper's Weekly newspaper features a picture of the Maryland Battery at the Battle of Antietam

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The same ridge?

This link reports that McClellan Hq was beside Fitz John Porters Hq at the Grove Farm....the Rev Adams place south of Antietnam?

The Search for McClellan's HQ | Antietam / Sharpsburg

This has been a topic of discussion around here on this battle forum. Thought some of you may have interest if local or close by... The Search For McClellan’s Headquarters May 12 @ 11:00 am - 12:00 pm EDT | Pay-What-You-Please Discover the role that the Pry House played (or didn’t play) during...

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Another Photographs of Linclin at McClellans headquaters--taken J Adams property?

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