Army Life And Marksmanship

Dr. Shultz, I want to thank you for taking the time to make these post! Now I am glad I read so much John Keegan. I just have one question. What's this "Fire at Will" stuff? It gives me the creeps.

I thank you, Will Carry
 
Both Hardee and Casey gave the same miserable directions for aiming.

Both the British at the Hythe and the French at Vincennes had schools of musketry. Henry Heth was sent an article by Hancock that described the Hythe School of Musketry and using that methodology, Heth improved the marksmanship of his company. (Part of that article was reproduced by The Company of Military Historians in their magazine). He wrote a manual that wasn't accepted at time of submission but plagarized by another officer (by a "Damned Yankee" in southern vernacular during the war) as a manual of musketry.

The other "expert" was Cadmus Wilcox who translated a treatise on ballistics, bullets and marksmanship. You can find a copy at South Carolina's The Citadel's Library (it's where I read it). The thin Confederate marksmanship manual has been reprinted but if you're in Richmond, Virginia, the State Library has a copy in its rare book collection.

There is no evidence that I have found that shows that neither Heth nor Wilcox gave marksmanship instruction to their divisions. The only general who did is Cleburne who had a Horse Guards Manual. Cleburne assigned the task to a subordinate officer who really did nothing until Cleburne dropped in unannounced and began questioning each "pupil" and learned they learned nothing. He then began to personally instruct the instructors (von Steuben techique at Valley Forge) who went on to instruct the division. There is evidence of it when one Confederate paused in combat to adjust his sight and then fire. I've found no evidence that Cleburne had any influence outside of his own division. I've also found no evidence that replacements for the newly created vacancies (casualties) in the sharpshooter battalions received the same marksmanship instruction.

There is supposed to have been a pamphlet issued in the Army of Northern Virginia and I'm uncertain if it's the same one Benham (Cleburne's staff officer who supposedly wrote a manual ***cough *** cough *** (plagarized)) or some thing based on Heth or Wilcox. Never seen a surviving copy.

Critical to marksmanship is range estimation. It's more than aligning the sights, trigger squeeze and follow-through (@Old Soldier). One must be able to either adjust the sights to the range or guess-timate the kentucky windage and adjust the hold to hit the target. The Confederate sharpshooter training program in Amry of Northern Virginia during the Winter of 1864 applied the lessons of the Hythe School. There is no evidence that I've found that Beauregard did the same within his department (remember he had Georgia to Southern Virginia (which included Petersburg) in his Department nor did Longstreet (who was away at Knoxville).

Better officers of any regiment knew who their best shots were from the regiment's target practice session and would call upon those soldiers to act as sharpshooters. If not at the regimental level, then at least at the company level (everyone knew who the best shot or champion shooter from the village was). I came across one account where one of those (Yankee) soldier said to his pard, "I wish I hadn't shot so well."

In the post-Civil War Army marksmanship was taken more seriously with shooting competitions and prize money. A soldier could be awarded a year's salary for being the best shot.

David Minshall of Research Press has written extensively on the 19th Century British military marksmanship and volunteer movement. He opined on the purported Whitworth scope and said it wasn't. If you're interested, his work is available on Amazon or go to their website. Linky to Research Press
 
Dr. Shultz, I want to thank you for taking the time to make these post! Now I am glad I read so much John Keegan. I just have one question. What's this "Fire at Will" stuff? It gives me the creeps.

I thank you, Will Carry
Everybody aims at Will (William/Bill). Suggest a nom de guerre. Next question?
 
Critical to marksmanship is range estimation. It's more than aligning the sights, trigger squeeze and follow-through (@Old Soldier). One must be able to either adjust the sights to the range or guess-timate the kentucky windage and adjust the hold to hit the target. The Confederate sharpshooter training program in Amry of Northern Virginia during the Winter of 1864 applied the lessons of the Hythe School. There is no evidence that I've found that Beauregard did the same within his department (remember he had Georgia to Southern Virginia (which included Petersburg) in his Department nor did Longstreet (who was away at Knoxville).
Range estimation was NOT 'critical' for all AT THIS TIME because, for a line soldier, the range was always given in the fire order. This is British Practice. Officers and NCOs designated the target distance (set sights)and sector of fire (the direction of fire and the target) before giving sequential commands to Make Ready, (full cock) Present, (aim) and Fire. (Watch 'Zulu' again). Most fire in open field battle was volley fire, ie under orders from those in command.

HOWEVER, the Rifle Regiments did it differently, as they were the marksmen. They operated as skirmishers by platoon or half-platoon, firing as targets presented themselves so HAD to estimate ranges correctly. They would often operate from high ground or the edge of woods picking off the 'choice targets'. (Like snipers/sharpshooters) The line regiments always had a few marksmen of their own - usually in the light infantry (skirmishing) company and they were trained as the riflemen. The real change for ALL to be able to estimate range came after the first Boer War (1883) when officers were often deliberately targeted.
*Note that firing in close country rarely required range estimation and line infantry acted as light infantry/riflemen

As for 'Fire at will' (groan), all this meant was to continue firing as targets appeared without being ordered to do so, ie not by volley. It was commonly used on the retreat of an enemy line/horde/mass. it would not be used otherwise due to ammunition availability and re-supply. Five to ten minutes at most.

The current 'Fire Control Order' (GRIT - Group Range Indication Type) was developed from this and was introduced in 1917.

The start of these basic maneuvers: The British "Field Exercise and Evolutions of Infantry" 1861
and the follow-up:

Bear in mind that US practice at this time was more from French and Prussian sources.
 
In the post-Civil War Army marksmanship was taken more seriously with shooting competitions and prize money. A soldier could be awarded a year's salary for being the best shot.
The National Rifle Association (British) was formed in 1859 to encourage maksmanship for the Volunteer Rifle units just developing.
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The National Rifle Association (of America) was formed in 1871 - for the same reason.
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Range estimation was NOT 'critical' for all AT THIS TIME because, for a line soldier, the range was always given in the fire order. This is British Practice. Officers and NCOs designated the target distance (set sights)and sector of fire (the direction of fire and the target) before giving sequential commands to Make Ready, (full cock) Present, (aim) and Fire. (Watch 'Zulu' again). Most fire in open field battle was volley fire, ie under orders from those in command.
Range estimation is critical for the sharpshooter and it was taught in the ANV and in Cleburne's Division. If you don't know what to adjust your sights to, you may not hit your intended target. The British Rifle Regiments (KRRC & 95) riflemen also received those instructions. Line soldiers in the Union Army or Confederates rarely did but some figured it out via learning on the job.

I remember ranging stakes being put out in one of those Zulu movies. Similarly Franklin Gardner had that done for his artillery. The Massachusetts Battery that was suppose to support the First and Third Louisiana Native Guards set up their two gun batteriess near the range markers and one gun was immediately disabled. The other gun packed it up and skedaddled. Never mind Gardner's infantry since most had smoothbore flintlocks.

Last, Ambrose Burnside was the first president of the American NRA.
 
When I was walking, I was looking at things 100 yards away, and 200 yards away.
How the heck do you aim at something 200 yards away without a scope?
At 100 yards away I can see a line of men, but it would be hard for me to hit a man I aimed at.
If most rifled musket combat took place at 80-100 yards that makes sense.

But sharpshooters with scopes and having to take into account longer ranges and wind, that's a whole new ballgame
 
When I was walking, I was looking at things 100 yards away, and 200 yards away.
How the heck do you aim at something 200 yards away without a scope?
At 100 yards away I can see a line of men, but it would be hard for me to hit a man I aimed at.
If most rifled musket combat took place at 80-100 yards that makes sense.

But sharpshooters with scopes and having to take into account longer ranges and wind, that's a whole new ballgame
7. JUDGING DISTANCE DRILL
1. In this drill the recruit is to be instructed to take note of the size and appearance of men and objects at ditferent distances.

2. In firing for instruction, the target is generally placed at known and measured distances, but before an enemy the distance is unknown ; it is therefore necessary, in order to apply the rules laid down for shooting, that he should know how to judge quickly, and with tolerable accuracy, the distance which separates him from the object he is firing at, so as to regulate the elevation of the rifle.

3. In order to teach the recruit, as well as the drilled soldier, to estimate distances by the eye, he is to be instructed in the following manner before he is allowed to engage in the judging distance practices.

4. Men are to be placed as " points for observation " at the distances of 50, 100, 150, 200, 250, and 300 yards, facing the squad or party, standing at ease, looking to their- front, and remaining in an erect position, unless ordered to the contrary.



So taken from the wonderfully succinctly named Regulations for Conducting the Musketry Instruction of the Army are parts 1-4 of the judging distance drill.

19. The recruits, after they have been drilled four different days to 300 yards, in the manner before detailed, are to be exercised for four days more up to 600 yards, first at known distances, in every respect as laid down for exercising to 300 yards, the " points for observation " being two or more men, placed at every 50 yards from 350 to 600 yards inclusive, after first measuring 300 yards on the alignment chosen.

20. When estimating unknown distances beyond 300 yards, the party, with a view to save time and walking, is to be separated into two equal portions, moved in difierent directions, and when halted, facing each other, with a file thrown out on the flanks a few paces off. After every man has judged the distance which separates the parties, and the answers have been recorded, they are to advance towards each other, counting the paces as before ; each party measuring half the distance, and the two added together will give the correct distance.

21. The instructor, in repeating these exercises, is to take care that they are conducted, as much as possible, in different directions, and under different states of the atmosphere, in order that the soldier may become habituated to the diversity of circumstances in which he may have to act.

22. It is to be observed that every judging distance drill is to consist of making observations on men placed at known distances, and of giving three answers on men placed at unknown distances in different situations immediately afterwards.


The last four parts of the drill detail extended range and differing light etc conditions practice. Troops would have already been taught the aiming drill (found on page 34 of the same work) and once they had learned both sets of techniques could be expected to make a reasonable guess as to a human target within about 10 yards of its actual distance out to around 600 yards. Solely by applying the human eyeball and brain (yes I know, I too find the latter concept alarming).

In the context of the American Civil War at least some immigrants would have been trained in these or similar European techniques.
 
I doubt I could tell the difference between a line 300 vs. 250 yards away.

At 200 yards I'd be like "yeah, I see a bunch of guys way out there. Maybe I can hit something given enough shots".

50 yards beyond that and I'd be like "I'll shoot in that direction, I hope I hit something, but I doubt it."
 
The "changes in weapon technology" particularly in the 1870s-80s in the US Army has little to do with the "loose formation", evolution into "fire teams" etc. and far more to do with the response to the very poor performance of the individual infantryman in the Civil War. Again, see what I have posted here on British Army directly before and during the Civil War (You of course have not had the time yet to respond, so not to put any pressure)

British are not alone using close-order against the Zulus, and rather than some oddity of how it survives it makes perfect sense, and why they use square in the mid-1880s; individual or extended order even if they had assault rifles probably isn't the best formation against an enemy that outnumbers them nearly 14 to 1 at Isandlwana; 25,000 total Zulus, discounting those sent to Rorke's Drift vs. under 2,000 British troops almost fully encircled. You are forced to do nothing but get into close order in any era if you do not have heavy guns, did not really fortify your camp out of sheer underestimation and are outnumbered by a ridiculous multiplication factor. Open order was indeed what was mainly used at Isandlwana and did not work, because why would it? At Rorke's Drift, it is almost a 30:1 ratio; extended order even if we were looking at Lee-Metfords being used, I would dare to say, would have been death.

You fail to understand that open order and close order throughout the late 19th century, be it Crimea or against the Zulus, exist simultaneously because infantry has become a combination of prior forms of infantry; that is why the US Army in the Civil War wears the hunter's horn as their literal universal infantry symbol, worldwide known as the old, traditional symbol of riflemen and light infantry, and symbolic itself in its intentional choice for use in this way, why their fatigue uniforms are based at least partially on French chasseurs, why the dress uniform, complete with Hardee has strong German and Austrian Jäger influence, and why the whole army on the smaller scale is using a book literally titled Rifle and Light Infantry tactics, directly translated by William Hardee from a mid-1840s book intended for use with an early pillar-breech rifle-musket, the Model 1846 à Tige, itself preceded by a series of pillar-breech models adopted since 1837; the French are very pioneering in the 1830s & 40s. Literally conducting what the best-drilled ACW Regular US infantry are doing in 1861-65 nearly 20 years later while the Mexican War, mainly fought with flintlocks on both sides is happening at the same time. (Tangent aside, every one of these features I named are very intentional and symbolic in their own right. Even this archaic and outdated US Army of the Civil War we are talking about here, literally models itself among all infantrymen as light infantry, and in practice, ideally fights very flexibly as line or light in the field.)


The perfect antidote to the more well known Zulu War in this regard is the New Zealand Wars that rage during every year of the 1860s, fought wholly without the redcoat, and characterized by extensive trench warfare, bush-fighting that is ideal for extended and open order, fighting against bomb-proofs and rifle-pits; far more relevant given promixity to the Civil War, literally taking place during every year of the war and before and after, and even technologically: See, any source, newspaper, from eyewitness or photographs will confirm directly that the Mauri Wars were mainly fighting with double-barrel shotguns - giving them an extra shot at charging distance, point-blank range - and old British military rifles - perhaps surprisingly, almost all fairly recent, i.e. old P51s or M1839/42 Brown Bess percussion muskets. Double-barrel percussion shotguns seem to be their preferred weapons, and the best-equipped Mauri warriors wore up to three British Army cartridge pouches around their necks for easy access. There are sketches and illustrations (and photographs) of all of this online. The British fought at least half of the conflict with the P53 Enfield, and is a much more symmetrical conflict than the war against the Zulus - the Mauris had their own close-quarter weapons, all manner of short swords and clubs, i.e. patu onewa, but these are used as secondary, close-quarter last resorts; not like the Zulus predominantly using spears and shields with a good throw as their primary projectiles. It was a shooting war, the Mauri occasionally sporting artillery, i.e. during the Waikato Campaign, Ōrākau (most infamous battle). The Mauri had what are considered among some the finest non-European military engineers that had actually learned considerably from the British in wars of the 1840s, i.e., Tītokowaru, developments of Te Ruki Kawiti during the 1840s wars, Wiremu Tāmihana, Rewi Maniapoto, Riwha Tītokowaru and various others during the 1860s wars all come to mind.
The Mauris wore Western clothing for the most part as far as real photographs confirm, and again, technology-wise... while the British fighting against the Zulus have reverted to the RML, with the RML 9lb-er 8 (& 6) cwt guns, some 13lb-ers, the New Zealand Wars of the 1860s are fought with the Armstrong RBLs, some guns up to 110lb (i.e. see the bombardment of Gate Pā).

So if we really want to fascinate over European performance in colonial wars on the scale of infantry, the Mauri Wars are easily much more symmetrical than the Zulu Wars: Typical combat of the Zulu Wars is in close-order, recoats, fought against an enemy who typically charges across open ground protected by a spear that fights with knives and crude spears. British are armed with the Martini-Henry and RML field guns.
A typical Mauri Wars battle (conflict mainly fought from 1860-68) sees British RBL, very occasionally up to 7", bombarding elaborate earthworks complete with underground dugouts with hundreds of shells - sometimes with artillery on their opposing side - and fought in dark blue uniform and fatigue (Kilmarnock at this time) caps, infantry fighting in extended order, and perhaps most shockingly even regularly being bloodily repulsed and defeated by said Mauris. The Mauris are not quite the Boers of the 1st or 2nd Boer Wars, but they are certainly closer to that than even in the middle between the Boers and the Zulus. It is one of the most interestingly symmetrical colonial conflicts of the late 19th century, definitely that of the British. A British soldier in a typical battle in 1879 can expect if he misses, to at least be able to engage a Zulu, armed with spear in melee; a British soldier in a typical battle of 1863 or '64, even if he had a Martini-Henry is not saved by the fact he is in an army of crack-marksmen if he misses his shot in close quarters, as he is ambushed by hidden Mauris hiding in tunnels and dugouts in the trenches he has stormed, and even if a Mauri were then to miss a shot too, he still likely has another barrel he can quickly use to dispatch the British soldier.

Fantastical, imaginary descriptions aside - If any of this comes as any shock there is a lot out there for you to read and research. The point is that the American armies of the Civil War are really not ahead of European contemporary armies. More effort should be put in by those of us who take such interests in the Civil War, if we really are to understand its place in history, and relative to its own time, for I very often see something that sounds like what you express here, some sort of conception of European powers as though they are all using the kind of manuals the Americans took note of in the early 1830s through mid-1840s. Here is a challenge: Find me one military in Europe that is neither Balkan nor Iberian that is using a manual older than what Hardee's is based from (1846). You won't find any because they do not exist. It pays in personal knowledge to really research in detail, not merely to ponder from a distance, the way these other armies fought if we are to make sweeping claims about them relative to the Civil War, or further base our understandings of the Civil War on what we know of their contemporaries. I realize this is an old comment; plenty may have changed for all I know since then, you may know all this and more. If not, there's a lot to start with to research here. I personally do not have anything much to say about any armies I do not even have the slightest knowledge of the infantry manuals of, and without coming across as mean, it would probably be wise to do similar; none of the statements from you I have replied to seem to imply the reading so much as a word of any British manual contemporary to anything Crimean War nor Zulu War era.

On the Mauri Wars, which was not an intended focus of this post, but now seems to be - a far better comparison, objectively, if we really want to have a go at analyzing British Army and generally European tactics, literally contemporary to the Civil War in its entirety as oppose to the Zulu Wars over 13-14 years in the future.

Much of what I am reading here sounds a lot like what I myself thought about 4 or 5 years ago anyways, so who knows. I hope I have managed to share something here worth your time, and ideally this could completely change your understanding - it should, most people know nothing about how any European Army actually fought in the 1860s (or 1850s, or 1870s really..) from most of what I have gathered, whether even certain scholars or basic, mainstream discussion when it comes to Civil War; Civil War buffs are really in a bubble, outside doctrines very obscured. That is likely where the whole narrative of such common myths as "The ACW was fought with outdated tactics, so it was up to the combat of the Civil War to figure it all out the hard way/the Europeans should have learned from the Americans" and others to similar effect which are made - honestly, like much of the first page or two of this thread - in sheer ignorance of what was actually happening, actually contemporary to the Civil War. This post, and some of the other long ones I have posted on this thread are not meant to be much informative so much as to spark interest into an entire ocean for research and knowledge waiting below your feet.

I hope you may, if I have come across the right way, sparked similarly great interest in these things, in you, the kind of sparks of interest that fuel most of our being here to begin with in all things Civil War.

Both Hardee and Casey gave the same miserable directions for aiming.

Both the British at the Hythe and the French at Vincennes had schools of musketry. Henry Heth was sent an article by Hancock that described the Hythe School of Musketry and using that methodology, Heth improved the marksmanship of his company. (Part of that article was reproduced by The Company of Military Historians in their magazine). He wrote a manual that wasn't accepted at time of submission but plagarized by another officer (by a "Damned Yankee" in southern vernacular during the war) as a manual of musketry.

The other "expert" was Cadmus Wilcox who translated a treatise on ballistics, bullets and marksmanship. You can find a copy at South Carolina's The Citadel's Library (it's where I read it). The thin Confederate marksmanship manual has been reprinted but if you're in Richmond, Virginia, the State Library has a copy in its rare book collection.

There is no evidence that I have found that shows that neither Heth nor Wilcox gave marksmanship instruction to their divisions. The only general who did is Cleburne who had a Horse Guards Manual. Cleburne assigned the task to a subordinate officer who really did nothing until Cleburne dropped in unannounced and began questioning each "pupil" and learned they learned nothing. He then began to personally instruct the instructors (von Steuben techique at Valley Forge) who went on to instruct the division. There is evidence of it when one Confederate paused in combat to adjust his sight and then fire. I've found no evidence that Cleburne had any influence outside of his own division. I've also found no evidence that replacements for the newly created vacancies (casualties) in the sharpshooter battalions received the same marksmanship instruction.

There is supposed to have been a pamphlet issued in the Army of Northern Virginia and I'm uncertain if it's the same one Benham (Cleburne's staff officer who supposedly wrote a manual ***cough *** cough *** (plagarized)) or some thing based on Heth or Wilcox. Never seen a surviving copy.

Critical to marksmanship is range estimation. It's more than aligning the sights, trigger squeeze and follow-through (@Old Soldier). One must be able to either adjust the sights to the range or guess-timate the kentucky windage and adjust the hold to hit the target. The Confederate sharpshooter training program in Amry of Northern Virginia during the Winter of 1864 applied the lessons of the Hythe School. There is no evidence that I've found that Beauregard did the same within his department (remember he had Georgia to Southern Virginia (which included Petersburg) in his Department nor did Longstreet (who was away at Knoxville).

Better officers of any regiment knew who their best shots were from the regiment's target practice session and would call upon those soldiers to act as sharpshooters. If not at the regimental level, then at least at the company level (everyone knew who the best shot or champion shooter from the village was). I came across one account where one of those (Yankee) soldier said to his pard, "I wish I hadn't shot so well."

In the post-Civil War Army marksmanship was taken more seriously with shooting competitions and prize money. A soldier could be awarded a year's salary for being the best shot.

David Minshall of Research Press has written extensively on the 19th Century British military marksmanship and volunteer movement. He opined on the purported Whitworth scope and said it wasn't. If you're interested, his work is available on Amazon or go to their website. Linky to Research Press
Glad to see we are (literally) on the same page.
 
I doubt I could tell the difference between a line 300 vs. 250 yards away.

At 200 yards I'd be like "yeah, I see a bunch of guys way out there. Maybe I can hit something given enough shots".

50 yards beyond that and I'd be like "I'll shoot in that direction, I hope I hit something, but I doubt it."
I accidentally misread your comment somehow as claiming it were impossible to shoot at that distance, was about to go and thoroughly prove that it is demonstrably on camera with various rifle-muskets 😅But yeah, it's not easy at all, even had you great eyesight. Hence the great lengths certain militaries go to, to ensure expert marksmanship, i.e. I avoid very widely comparisons (We all know of those who compare everything between Kadesh and now to Blitzkrieg) but it drives the point in comparing how the British Army were putting more rounds down i(n universally standard infantry shooting annually) than the US Army's infantry of 2023.
 
Both Hardee and Casey gave the same miserable directions for aiming.

Both the British at the Hythe and the French at Vincennes had schools of musketry. Henry Heth was sent an article by Hancock that described the Hythe School of Musketry and using that methodology, Heth improved the marksmanship of his company. (Part of that article was reproduced by The Company of Military Historians in their magazine). He wrote a manual that wasn't accepted at time of submission but plagarized by another officer (by a "Damned Yankee" in southern vernacular during the war) as a manual of musketry.

The other "expert" was Cadmus Wilcox who translated a treatise on ballistics, bullets and marksmanship. You can find a copy at South Carolina's The Citadel's Library (it's where I read it). The thin Confederate marksmanship manual has been reprinted but if you're in Richmond, Virginia, the State Library has a copy in its rare book collection.

There is no evidence that I have found that shows that neither Heth nor Wilcox gave marksmanship instruction to their divisions. The only general who did is Cleburne who had a Horse Guards Manual. Cleburne assigned the task to a subordinate officer who really did nothing until Cleburne dropped in unannounced and began questioning each "pupil" and learned they learned nothing. He then began to personally instruct the instructors (von Steuben techique at Valley Forge) who went on to instruct the division. There is evidence of it when one Confederate paused in combat to adjust his sight and then fire. I've found no evidence that Cleburne had any influence outside of his own division. I've also found no evidence that replacements for the newly created vacancies (casualties) in the sharpshooter battalions received the same marksmanship instruction.

There is supposed to have been a pamphlet issued in the Army of Northern Virginia and I'm uncertain if it's the same one Benham (Cleburne's staff officer who supposedly wrote a manual ***cough *** cough *** (plagarized)) or some thing based on Heth or Wilcox. Never seen a surviving copy.

Critical to marksmanship is range estimation. It's more than aligning the sights, trigger squeeze and follow-through (@Old Soldier). One must be able to either adjust the sights to the range or guess-timate the kentucky windage and adjust the hold to hit the target. The Confederate sharpshooter training program in Amry of Northern Virginia during the Winter of 1864 applied the lessons of the Hythe School. There is no evidence that I've found that Beauregard did the same within his department (remember he had Georgia to Southern Virginia (which included Petersburg) in his Department nor did Longstreet (who was away at Knoxville).

Better officers of any regiment knew who their best shots were from the regiment's target practice session and would call upon those soldiers to act as sharpshooters. If not at the regimental level, then at least at the company level (everyone knew who the best shot or champion shooter from the village was). I came across one account where one of those (Yankee) soldier said to his pard, "I wish I hadn't shot so well."

In the post-Civil War Army marksmanship was taken more seriously with shooting competitions and prize money. A soldier could be awarded a year's salary for being the best shot.

David Minshall of Research Press has written extensively on the 19th Century British military marksmanship and volunteer movement. He opined on the purported Whitworth scope and said it wasn't. If you're interested, his work is available on Amazon or go to their website. Linky to Research Press
After I finished both 1859 manuals I went back and re-read Hardee's; the contrast is insane. In comparison, Hardee's rifle instruction may as well be a footnote at very best, it's like reading a comic book after finishing a Tolstoy novel. While the British Army has a whole other 150 page (100 of instruction, last 50 of documents) manual entirely for rifle-shooting to supplement maneuver and exercises; when I first learned of it all it seemed something incredible to someone used to Civil War infantry and their manuals.
 
This is the truest & simplest way to put it I really see on this thread. This is a widely repeated fact, true but damningly under context, of course - I often see this said in mainstream discussion, but with the twist that Americans therefore were left to develop proper tactics for the rifles and pave the way for the world. Part of the whole "Europeans were stupid not to learn from the war until WW1" and similar narratives. When in reality, proper tactics far in advance of anything typically used in the Civil War already exists, and wars fought by at least one side in a more "advanced" way have already taken place, i.e. in the form of the British experience of Crimea; there is no Civil War Inkerman equivalent on the same scale and effect in its 10,000 battles. The Civil War was fought with archaic tactics because it was behind other Western armies for the most part.

Love the username by the way.
My post was 4 1/2 years ago as with many others. Now it looks like your posts here are as long as a book. Too much time on your hands, you must not be Married!
 
My post was 4 1/2 years ago as with many others. Now it looks like your posts here are as long as a book. Too much time on your hands, you must not be Married!
How'd you guess that? 😆 Although in all seriousness, I've had to write lots in short order all my life, most of these posts I have done quite quickly. Depending on what kind of English teachers we each had, you may remember having to write 8 pages within a single lesson to leave. Besides, in at least my generation texting is fairly lengthy, I should send you any texts from any women I know! Paragraphs are not uncommon. I just know how to get a lot of information out quickly; usually helps if the knowledge or sources are already nearby.
 
How'd you guess that? 😆 Although in all seriousness, I've had to write lots in short order all my life, most of these posts I have done quite quickly. Depending on what kind of English teachers we each had, you may remember having to write 8 pages within a single lesson to leave. Besides, in at least my generation texting is fairly lengthy, I should send you any texts from any women I know! Paragraphs are not uncommon. I just know how to get a lot of information out quickly; usually helps if the knowledge or sources are already nearby.
Sounds like good training for a journalist.
 
When I was walking, I was looking at things 100 yards away, and 200 yards away.
How the heck do you aim at something 200 yards away without a scope?
At 100 yards away I can see a line of men, but it would be hard for me to hit a man I aimed at.
If most rifled musket combat took place at 80-100 yards that makes sense.

But sharpshooters with scopes and having to take into account longer ranges and wind, that's a whole new ballgame
The standard range work for most armies at this time was between 300 and 600 yards individual and 1,000 yards by company. The standard sight on a rifle was an iron sight - 'V' backsight and post/barleycorn foresight. The NRA Annual Shoot at Wimbledon in 1860 had an Open Competition - The Queen's Prize - with targets at 800, 900 and 1,000 yards. Targets measured 6 feet square with a 2-foot center and no explicit bullseye. No optical sights were allowed - and no support (not even a sling), Scoring was 2 in the square and 1 anywhere else. There were 30 shots. The first winner scored just 24 points.

BTW - In my army service we were using iron sights on a Figure 11 target at 100, 200, 300 yards. I was a marksman. We were always taught 'one shot - one hit'.
 
The standard range work for most armies at this time was between 300 and 600 yards individual and 1,000 yards by company. The standard sight on a rifle was an iron sight - 'V' backsight and post/barleycorn foresight. The NRA Annual Shoot at Wimbledon in 1860 had an Open Competition - The Queen's Prize - with targets at 800, 900 and 1,000 yards. Targets measured 6 feet square with a 2-foot center and no explicit bullseye. No optical sights were allowed - and no support (not even a sling), Scoring was 2 in the square and 1 anywhere else. There were 30 shots. The first winner scored just 24 points.

BTW - In my army service we were using iron sights on a Figure 11 target at 100, 200, 300 yards. I was a marksman. We were always taught 'one shot - one hit'.
I can only assume the NRA was using the specifications from the Army for the annual shooting competition; the A, B & C Classes under the 1859 specifications detailed in the Field Exercises & Evolutions of Infantry also call for the target to be at dimensions of 6ft. by 2ft. I forget if that changes in the '61 or '63 revisions (or subsequent), or of anything about exact "bullseyes" for comparison for Army practice.
 

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