Which is most offensive?

[rhettbutler1865]

Oh, that's like denting silly putty...

 

[ole]

Was just thinking after reading your first post, that letting Sheridan show up was a rather big offense. But I suppose that wasn't Sheridan's fault but rather who ever recommended him!

And I mean, really in Sheridan's case, getting suspended for a year for fighting a classmate, is pretty much nothing.

For a little guy, Sheridan was quite pugnacious. He didn't mind pitching into anyone who irritated him. (Napoleonic Complex?}

Recall reading where he once threw a man off a train for some minor infraction. At least he didn't pick fights with those who ranked him.

 

[ole]

Those who graduated from West Point were not all angels. Some were pretty good. So is "some" a good grade?

Custer didn't finish the full four years there. Some had 3, 3.5 years in, but they were duped into the ossifer corps without completing their study.

 

[HardeeBoy]

It was only a matter of time before someone broke a plate over J. Early's head....unavoidable really.

 

[leftyhunter]

I wondered the same, but I think he's referring to your third point....Which offense (i.e. against the rules) was worse. That's my take on it. But I chuckled at the notion of being expelled from breaking a plate over someone's head. Very Three Stoogish of him.

Since its Early's head i would give Armistead a pass.
Leftyhunter

 

[PeterT]

Since its Early's head i would give Armistead a pass.
Leftyhunter

I wonder if during the war they were ever together around a camp fire chewing the fat, and Armistead says "... Hey Jube remember when I broke that plate over your head?!! ... that was a hoot wasn't it?!!"

I am guessing not ...

 

[R. Alex Raines]

Why are we trying to claim Sheridan was undeserving?

 

[Elennsar]

Why are we trying to claim Sheridan was undeserving?

Do you want to talk about the reasons during or after the ACW?

Because I'd be quite willing to start with him being a murderously incompetent commander of cavalry whose arrogance got in the way of doing what cavalry is supposed to do for the army.

 

[R. Alex Raines]

Do you want to talk about the reasons during or after the ACW?

Because I'd be quite willing to start with him being a murderously incompetent commander of cavalry whose arrogance got in the way of doing what cavalry is supposed to do for the army.

That means he shouldn't have gone to the Point? Is someone upset about the shellacking he gave Old Jubal?

 

[Elennsar]

That means he shouldn't have gone to the Point? Is someone upset about the shellacking he gave Old Jubal?

I'm upset that Old Jubal had an army left at the end of Sheridan's Valley campaign

I think Sheridan being criticized whenever we have a reasonable chance is more appealing than criticizing Armistead or Poe.

 

[Elennsar]

Jubal Early was not a "nice" guy. From what little I've read about him. he was not "easy to get along with.'' Which might led to Armistead's striking hm violently with a plate. I might have done same were I there at the tome/

And we' re not talking about a melmac plate. Chances are it was pottery of some sort if it actually happened

No argument there. Early seems like at best he was sharp tongued and easily set off, and at worst he was intentionally offensive.

Might have been more bearable as a young man, but you don't get people hitting you with a plate by being too nice.

 

[ole]

No argument there. Early seems like at best he was sharp tongued and easily set off, and at worst he was intentionally offensive.

Might have been more bearable as a young man, but you don't get people hitting you with a plate by being too nice.

Is the way I see it, Elennsar, but I only have Detzler's word for it.

 

[JPK Huson 1863]

Well, hitting someone over the head with a breakable object. Maybe a couple of times in my misspent youth. Maybe my husband.

Yes, but never the good plates. I still have the good plates. The husband, no.

 

[ole]

From what I've read on Early, he was a cantancerous fellow and not at all easy to get along with.

I will guess that, when one get's into West Point, one mellows out some. Apparently, that mellowing out process just wasn't quick enough for Armistead.

 

[ole]

Does anyone have some details about the altercation.. We have evidenee that Armstead did, but do we know why?

 

[MajGenl.Meade]

FWIW and I certainly don't know anything at all, this snip may be true (or not). Given "an dispute", who knows?:

 

[diane]

Lewis Armistead wasn't the only person who wanted to break a plate over Ol' Jube's head. After a debate on slavery with Joe Hooker, Jube followed him outside the hall and kicked him!

 

[Rebforever]

I'm upset that Old Jubal had an army left at the end of Sheridan's Valley campaign

I think Sheridan being criticized whenever we have a reasonable chance is more appealing than criticizing Armistead or Poe.

He didn't have anything left when he was run out of Waynesboro barely escaping Capture.

 

[Elennsar]

He didn't have anything left when he was run out of Waynesboro barely escaping Capture.

Due to Lee transferring most of it back to the ANV, not due to Sheridan's generalship actually eliminating Early's forces like say, April 9 1865 did.

 

[Rebforever]

Due to Lee transferring most of it back to the ANV, not due to Sheridan's generalship actually eliminating Early's forces like say, April 9 1865 did.

I don't follow you. Custer's division attacked Early at Waynesboro and strongly defeated Early who had somewhere around 1800 men with the majority captured. He made it to Richmond and was given a job in South West Va. and there was so many people complaining about him General Lee relieved him of duty. Then he slowly worked his way across Country and went to South America.