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I'm looking for information on the 41st Mississippi Infantry. My great great grandfather served in this unit and was killed in Perryville. He is one of the few named on the Confederate monument, Edmund W. Ferris from Macon, MS. Thanks in advance.
How crazy is this. I found it in an old newspaper today.

This is only a portion of the two column long article about your Ferris family.

"Edmund, the junior brother, was then a druggist at Macon, and was also postmaster there, which office he held for several years. He was a man of genial character and could claim everybody as his friend. He had a family of four boys and one daughter; his wife was the daughter of Andrew Marshalk, who established the first newspaper printed in the state, at Natchez, soon after the state was admitted into the Union. Each of his sons became printers, and one of them (Fergus) became prominent as the correspondent of metropolitan newspapers. Edmund Ferris was a Confederate soldier, a member of Company D, 41st Mississippi, Capt. T. J. Koger; he was killed in the battle of Perryville in 1862, and was buried on the field. He was a brave and loyal soldier and was honored by his entire command."

It was from the Macon Beacon, May 20, 1905, page 3, columns 1-2.

This is the link. http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/l...le&y=15&x=15&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=10
 
very cool! I did pass this on to my father who said this is what he knew as well, good stuff and many thanks!!
 
Other maps I viewed showed the 41st Mississippi as being in Perryville proper, not north in the main battlefield. Could they have been involved with "SHEIRDAN'S ADVANCE.

While this is going on around Russell's house, General Sheridan, a mile east on the Springfield road, orders General Carlin to advance with his brigade. The troops leave Doctor's Creek and come upon the line of skirmishers which Anderson has stationed along the north bank of the creek. The 38th Ohio dashes upon the Confederates, captures their officers and 133 men, two caissons, and several wagons. Carlin drives all before him, pushing on nearly to Perryville."
 
Other maps I viewed showed the 41st Mississippi as being in Perryville proper, not north in the main battlefield. Could they have been involved with "SHEIRDAN'S ADVANCE.

While this is going on around Russell's house, General Sheridan, a mile east on the Springfield road, orders General Carlin to advance with his brigade. The troops leave Doctor's Creek and come upon the line of skirmishers which Anderson has stationed along the north bank of the creek. The 38th Ohio dashes upon the Confederates, captures their officers and 133 men, two caissons, and several wagons. Carlin drives all before him, pushing on nearly to Perryville."
Actually, Brown's brigade with the 1st Florida, 3rd Florida and 41st Mississippi advanced from the vicinity of Widow Bottom's house just along the north side of Doctor's Creek. When they reached the hilltop opposite Simonson's Battery and the support of the 10th Ohio and 10th Wisconsin, they had to descend a steep hill and then rush up the face of the enemy's hill. They got shot up real good in this advance.
 
I will walk the Perryville battlefield this Thursday (11-12-2015), I'm looking forward to it.
Perryville, along with Shiloh and Antietam, is one of the most pristine battlefieds there is. It is very much like it was without the amenities.

The surrounding population is sparse.There are no WalMarts or restaurants or motels close by. They are the way they were.
 
Making my trip to Perryville, KY. Leaving Texas today over night in Danville, KY. Tomorrow the CSA colors will once again reach the top of the "open knob" in respect for ALL those that fought there.
 
[This was written November 5, 1862 after observing the field less than a month after the battle.]

"… The field is still covered with the debris of the fight,--dead horses, broken artillery wagons, haversacks, cartridge boxes, hats, shoes, remnants of clothing, &c., &c. In every field—and there are many, for the line of battle covered miles of territory—fresh graves are abundant, and in places the clay soil assumes a darker hue, red with the blood of friend and foe. Since the fight, no rain has fallen, and these dark stains are still discernable [sic].

To the honor of human nature our own dead are buried, mostly where they fell, sufficiently deep to cover them from our eye. To its dishonor the enemy are tumbled into graves, and in many cases parts of the blackened remains are visible above the earth. Riding by where the enemy fell in numbers, I saw a hand black with exposure, but still as delicate as that of a lady, resting on the top of the parched earth while the body to which it belonged had a thin covering of earth over it. The walnut colored cuff of the coat still around the wrist showed that it was a secession soldier, and a physician present with us, pronounced the hand that of a mere youth which had never been hardened with labor.

A few moments after, I saw another hand and part of the face protruding. In another field, an open one near by, a swarm of long backed and long snouted hogs, common to this part of Kentucky, had rooted into the thinly covered graves, and were making their horrid banquet upon human flesh. As we drove them away, they stood at a short distance impatiently waiting, and scarce had we turned the heads of our horses from this disgusting scene before they were again at the graves, furiously tearing limb from limb and devouring the half corrupted flesh of those who, but a few days before, stood in the pride of manhood battling for home and honor. Nearby these graves were the bodies of horses, yet these were scarce touched, the hogs preferring human flesh to that of animals. A sight more horribly disgusting, human eye never looked upon.

Occasionally we found a grave with a board at its head, giving the name, regiment and company of the dead occupant, and these were generally protected by a rail fence, or covered with stones, with which every field abounds, to protect them from the hogs, who, having tasted human flesh are more ravenous than the hyena in their taste for human gore. Around the graves thus covered, myriads of flies, smaller it is true, yet resembling the green bottle-fly swarmed on the tops of the graves, and particularly the stones were black with them.

In traversing the scene of the slaughter, men, women and children, on foot, on horseback and in carriages, are met, and to the honor of the womanhood be it said, that I saw a group of them, with boards, and with their own fair hands, diligently engaged in scooping up the dirt to cover the exposed parts of the victims of the great slaughter laid bare by shallow graves and by the rooting of hogs. The woods are full of acorns, walnuts and buckeye-nuts and corn is scattered over the fields, and yet, fond as the hog is of these, he scarce touches them, the human banquet being chosen above all vulgar and common food. The Bible teaches us that the hog is an unclean animal, unfit for the food of man, and after the sight I saw on the field of battle, so far as pork in this region is concerned, I adopted the Jewish faith in prohibiting the eating of hog."
 
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The Perryville battlefield was incredible! The weather was cool and windy, clear skies. We spent five hours there, first going through the museum then off to the battlefield. Walked stations 1-11 then drove to the area over by "the Bottom house" and the "Jones crossing". Jones Ridge (near The Sink Hole)is where, I believe, there is a good chance that is where my relative was killed. Stunning views of a now peaceful park.
 
The Perryville battlefield was incredible! The weather was cool and windy, clear skies. We spent five hours there, first going through the museum then off to the battlefield. Walked stations 1-11 then drove to the area over by "the Bottom house" and the "Jones crossing". Jones Ridge (near The Sink Hole)is where, I believe, there is a good chance that is where my relative was killed. Stunning views of a now peaceful park.
It is by far one of the most pristine of Civil War battlefields. You can't NOT love that field.
 
@Ferris41st - This is a Federal account from a batteryman that was working Simonson's guns that confronted Brown's brigade.

"As soon as they made their appearance over the top of the hill, we commenced giving them canister, and I can bear witness that it made terrible havoc among their ranks. They would falter sometimes and fall back, but they would soon rally again and come on with renewed vigor. All this time the infantry were keeping up a murderous fire upon them.—Never did I think that men could stand up and shoot at one another in the manner it was done that day. Their fire upon us was telling terribly, but still not a man flinched. The enemy, at about 75 or 80 yards distant, had to come over a rise of ground that brought them, as we were, in plain view. Here was where they suffered the greatest loss. We had our guns pointed ready for them, and the moment they made their appearance over this knoll, we opened on them with terrible effect—breaking up their lines, and forcing them to take shelter behind the hillocks. Again and again they tried to gain the brow of the hill, and were as many times repulsed with terrible loss."​
 
"Pristine" hardly covers it.The homes that were there are now gone. Other than that, it is the same as it was then.

Kentucky has done a stellar j0b in preserving the site.Been there about three times now and it always takes me back in time. The town itself hasn't changed all that much except for adding gas stations.

It's much like Antietam and Shiloh. No development intrusions. No where to stay or eat. But a battlefield almost exactly as it was is a treat.
 
I'm looking for information on the 41st Mississippi Infantry. My great great grandfather served in this unit and was killed in Perryville. He is one of the few named on the Confederate monument, Edmund W. Ferris from Macon, MS. Thanks in advance.
My ancestors in the 7th Mississippi fought along side of the men in 41st Mississippi.
Both regiments were part of General James Patton Anderson's High Pressure Brigade.

I'll send you a private message with a detailed history of the 41st.
 
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I'll still be posting new information here, but wanted to let yall know that I have started a Perryville blog that will be any and all things Perryville. I do of course argue my points on the blog, but also use it as an informative tool for individual soldiers as well as units. Check it out if you like! Thanks! https://battleofperryville.wordpress.com/2015/12/12/the-perryville-experience/
 
FYI, my interest in the ACW has driven me to want to be involved with "living history" of the events. I'm joining a reenactment group and planning to take part in the 2016 reenactment at Perryville! I'm pretty excited!
 
Correspondence of the Louisville Journal.].

HARRODSBURG, Ky., Oct. 11, 1862.

… The bravery and the heroism were unparalleled. Of hundreds of such instances, I give a few. One Illinois regiment of Federal troops stood on the crest of a hill until all the field officers had fallen, and there was no one to command, their ammunition was all expended, and that they died like Romans on their post is proven by the fact that the next morning after sunrise I counted forty-four of them lying shot in the forehead or through the heart, in their exact straight line of battle, with their arms at their sides. There were one hundred and fifty more arms lying in the same straight line, proving that number had been too severely wounded to carry their arms to the rear when ordered back. There were fifty more lying dead in the same field with their arms beside them, shot before they gained the cover of the next hill, and the enemy checked by the reserve regiment. One regiment of Federal troops from Michigan stood in line of battle awaiting the storm; at the first close volley their standard was shot away, and the flag torn to shreds; the soldiers beside the standard bearer, caught and flung up in the air the tattered remnants of the stars and stripes, until there was a heap of sixteen men shot on the spot. Then the broken remnant of the regiment fell back, they carried all the tattered fragments of the old symbol as carefully as a mother bears her child.

The standard of the 79th Pennsylvania Infantry was shot down six times, and as often reared aloft and when forced from the field, the Colonel carried it off.

… In front of the destroyed Illinois regiment was a worm fence, from which the rebels soldiers took such deadly aim; in nearly every fence corner lay a dead or wounded rebel soldier; the fence was fired by the bursting shells, and in the morning a fearful sight met our eyes—in the ashes of the fence lay a scorched and blackened mass of humanity, a roasted man, and to all appearances, from their struggles, many of them only wounded when the fire caught them.—The death of our poor men, even with all the agonies of thirst upon them, in the scorching sunshine and the dust and the chilling of the long, cold October night, was merciful compared with the tortures these men met in the slow but sure approach of the flames creeping along the fence to the spot where they lay writhing. A flock of sheep were in the field; they carcasses of the dead ones lay scattered about, and the wounded ones crept into the same fence corners with the men, and man and beast were roasted and charred together.

… Our dead, and many of our wounded, lay there stripped by them of all their coats, hats and shoes, and some of them of pants, and in the morning they raised their heads with ghastly chattering jaws, unable to speak, and fell back senseless. There was many a wounded man who was stripped who had the life frozen out of him on that bleak hillside, on the cold October night when it required blankets or a fire to keep a sound, well-clothed man comfortable.

The enemy carried, through the day and night, his thousands upon thousands of wounded to his rear, crowding and crushing them into Perryville to overflowing, and into every farm house, shed and stable within three miles of his line of battle. Gardens and orchards were strewn with them. As usual, the fierce cannonading brought on a rain; the evening of the 9th was cold and chilly==piercing to the very bone. I went to one of their hospitals on the morning of the 10th. The house, sheds, yard, and garden were crowded to overflowing with crushed and wounded Tennesseans and Georgians strewn around on the cold wet straw and earth, with a poor tattered blanket for covering to keep off the pelting of the pitiless storm through that bitter night. Poor human nature could not withstand the chilling air that pressed the vitality out of them, and in the morning I saw two long rows of white corpses awaiting the soldier's hasty burial, and I was confident, as with chattering teeth the poor survivors begged to have their blankets dried at the fire, that the cold night air had slain as many as our bullets had done.

The miserably weak rebel hospital force left to cope with the awful work before them were totally unable to attend to their wants at any of their hospitals, but death was fast making their work less. The amputated legs and arms were lying piled up like cord wood.

[Regarding dead rebels…] … They were then lying mangled and torn, festering and putrifying, and the hogs devouring them! It is the actual, horrible fact!

The citizens of Perryville then began to bury them to prevent pestilence, but there are hundreds of them lying where they crawled to die, between the logs and in the ravines and bushes and ledges of rocks, that will never be found until the last trump will sound…

… They swept up (while their great leaders kept at a safe distance) again and again to our batteries and were decimated and driven back repeatedly ere they silenced three of ours on the left. Our artillerists, when closely pressed, filled the cannon with infantry cartridges by the capful and swept whole scores of rebel soldiers to destruction at each discharge. I counted in one heap twenty-one men lying torn and dead, sixteen in another heap, fifteen in another, while around they lay scattered like leaves swept from the trees.
 
This is interesting. The Perryville battlefield park has apparently compiled an official statement regarding my book on the 16th Tennessee at the Battle of Perryville. It attempts to refute my attempts to correct the chronology and interpretation of the battle in the center and on the right. It fails pretty miserably in my opinion. Following this post is my response. This was published as a reply to an Amazon review that I posted on "Maney's Brigade at the Battle of Perryville." I responded with the post following this "official statement."

Statement on Jamie Gillum's The Battle of Perryville and the Sixteenth Tennessee Infantry Regiment: A Re-evaluation

Perryville Battlefield State Historic Site (2015)

In 2011, author Jamie Gillum self-published a book entitled The Battle of Perryville and the Sixteenth Tennessee Infantry Regiment: A Re-evaluation. Gillum's thesis is that historians have ignored evidence and erred in not giving the 16th Tennessee Infantry proper credit for capturing (or helping to capture) Capt. Charles Parsons' Federal battery at the top of the Open Knob, now more popularly known as Parsons' Hill. After an extensive re-evaluation of all the available evidence, we conclude that the traditional evaluation presented at the battlefield park is in fact the correct one. Col. John Savage's 16th Tennessee fought south of the Open Knob at the Widow Gibson farm against elements of Col. Leonard Harris's Brigade. Col. George Maney's Confederate brigade properly received credit for the capture of Parsons' Battery. The argument is presented below in four broad categories.

REPORTS: After the battle, reports from significant Confederate commanders and other writings invariably pointed to the conclusion that Savage fought Harris and that Maney took Parsons' Hill. Savage himself specifically reported recognizing during the fighting his friend and former colleague from the U. S. Congress, Lt. Col. Oscar Moore, who lay wounded on the field near the Gibson cabin. Savage personally ordered his men to attend to his old friend. Moore's 33rd Ohio was never on Parsons' Hill. Thomas Head of the 16th Tennessee later confirmed in the 16th Tennessee's regimental history that the 16th Tennessee was opposite the 33rd Ohio and the "7th Ohio," which can be no other than 2nd Ohio, since all sources have those two units fighting together all through the battle, and the 7th Ohio served in Virginia. Head in contrast writes nothing about Col. William Terrill's regiments on the Open Knob. It is impossible that Oscar Moore was on or near Parsons' position.

Brig. Gen. Daniel Donelson, Savage's brigade commander, wrote that his brigade (excepting the 8th Tennessee and 51st Tennessee) were together. The 16th Tennessee did attack too early, which is why its casualties were so high. Contrary to Gillum, it was never detached from the brigade. Had the 16th Tennessee moved toward Parsons, the 15th and 38th would have followed, yet evidence from those regiments shows that they did not.

In his memoir, Gen. St. John Liddell specifically puts General B. F. Cheatham (Donelson's wing commander) at Capt. Samuel Harris' captured battery near the Gibson cabin and reported a conversation with him, asking instructions as to where to deploy his brigade. Liddell also gives credit to the capture of Harris' battery to "Cheatham's Men."

JOHN SAVAGE AND THE "THE RIGHT TURN": After some narrative confusion about timing and events at the beginning of the battle, Gillum assumes that Savage initially drove to the west and then turned right under orders from his superiors, which would have taken him northwest to Parsons' Hill. Savage indeed describes turning to the right while under heavy fire. But the available evidence reinforces the traditional interpretation that Savage started out moving to the southwest, and so his right turn took him west toward the Gibson cabin. Crucially, the only Union battery that could have been visible to Savage at the outset was Capt. Peter Simonson's. It also was the only U. S. battery firing at the time. That is why the initial attack was directed towards this battery. The 45 degree turn to the right faced the 16th Tennessee to the west, into "the valley of death," not northwest to the Open Knob. Gillum's interpretation instead requires Savage to intentionally expose his flank to Simonson's fire while initially attacking a battery (Capt. Samuel Harris's) that had yet to be seen or open fire.

Savage himself reinforces the traditional interpretation in his own words:

"There was running up from Chaplain Creek a long hollow about half way between the battery and where the regiment was in line. I thought as soon as I moved into that hollow I would be out of reach of the battery and that I could come up on the other side within sixty or seventy yards of the battery." Note that topographically, there is no "hollow" that would take the 16th Tennessee to Parsons' Hill.

"There was no reason why the battery should not have fired upon the regiment while it was in line, except that a fire would pass through the line and only do a little damage. Marching in the new direction indicated by Cheatham's aide, I was soon in an open beech forest on the top of the hill. I was riding in front expecting a surprise, the left of the regiment was at the edge of the forest and the field, when the battery, about one hundred and fifty yards from the regiment, fired, enfilading it, sweeping the whole length of the line, killing a captain, a lieutenant and many privates. I was riding in front of the regiment; a grape shot passed through the head of my horse below the eyes." This description reinforces the conclusion that the battery was Simonson's, and that the right turn took the regiment to the Widow Gibson farm.

"The men at the battery had been killed or wounded or had fled before Maney's brigade appeared in the field to my right, some hundred yards or more distant, and the battle had ceased at the battery." If this was not Harris's battery, but instead Parsons', what was Maney attacking? Remember that there was no Federal battery north of Parsons' to be assaulted by Maney.

"None of General Maney's brigade was nearer than one hundred yards of this battery. The batteries taken by General Maney's brigade were half a mile or more to the right of this battery. " Again, if Savage took Parsons' battery, what batteries could Maney have taken?

PARSONS' GUNS: All of the guns taken from Col. John Starkweather's brigade were recovered and accounted for by Federal troops on October 9, 1862. Only two captured Federal cannons left the field (and the state) after the battle. Based on the reports of Union Gen. Alexander McCook and Confederate battery commander Lt. William B. Turner, (and others) there can be no doubt that the guns in questions are Parsons'. Sources from Maney's brigade invariably assert say they captured two batteries unassisted.

Savage himself wrote that Maney's Brigade captured batteries (plural) on his right (to the north), and were not to be confused with any guns his regiment took. There were no other batteries on the Confederate right past Parsons, so Savage clearly states here that Maney took Parsons' battery. It is worth nothing as well that Savage, because of a wound, did not witness the capture of any battery personally.

Also notable is the correspondence that ensued between Gen. Braxton Bragg's Chief of Ordnance and Col. Maney about whose names should be engraved on those captured guns as honors. Note that Bragg gave Maney, not Donelson, the honor of choosing the names. Maney replied that at Perryville, along with his four Tennessee regiments, there also was the 41st Georgia, led by Col. Charles A. McDaniel. Maney asked that McDaniel's name be engraved on a gun and it presented to a Georgia Battery. Never mentioned was any thought of adding the 16th Tennessee to the list of regiments to be honored. In the end, the two Napoleons were engraved with the names of color bearer A.T. Mitchell and Lt. Col. John Patterson, both of the 1st Tennessee of Maney's Brigade. The Napoleon engraved to Mitchell later was seen in Germantown, Pennsylvania, by a former Confederate who wrote a letter to the Confederate Veteran for its January 1914 issue.

WHERE ARE THE CABINS? Sources from Savage's brigade invariably describe fighting around log buildings. Savage famously wrote that "There was a fence and a field on my right running up to two cabins at the line of the enemy's forces. There were skirmish lines along this fence which fired on our rear as we advanced. The Sixteenth had no protection except a few trees in the forest. I ordered a charge. We drove the enemy from behind the fences, killing many of them as they fled. The right of the regiment was at the two cabins. There was a battery in the line of battle to the right, about thirty or forty yards from these cabins, between which cabins there was an entry, or space, of ten or fifteen feet. The battery opened fire upon us, killing many men, and at the same time a fire of small arms from the line of battle was directed upon these cabins. The battery fired obliquely into this space."

Based on this description, that battery mentioned can only be Harris's. No soldier ever mentioned anything about any structure anywhere on the slopes of Parsons' Hill, even though more soldiers, both North and South, wrote about that piece of ground more than any other on the field. In his book, Gillum concludes without any evidence that there still must have been a structure on Parsons' Hill, it simply hasn't been found yet by archeologists. In his book he also points hopefully to areas where trees later were removed and suggests that those depressions might comprise the remains of a house structure.

More recently, after publication, Gillum pointed in several online venues to an 1877 map of the battlefield that shows a "Hayflay" cabin southeast of the Open Knob. He has concluded that this must be the missing cabin, and thus this map confirms his interpretation. There are two obvious problems, however. First, the cabin is in the wrong place for his narrative. The map places the cabin near the modern outdoor pavilion and playground, nowhere near where it would support the Gillum narrative. It is much too far to the east.

Second, and more importantly, the map clearly depicts 1862 troop movements on an 1877 landscape. Notably, Squire Bottom's cemetery constructed after the battle also is shown on the map. All the map really establishes is that a man named Hayflay (probably Hafely) lived on the battlefield in 1877. There remains no evidence of a cabin there in 1862. It is not on the more familiar "Work Map" of the battlefield. The history of the Sleettown site also demonstrates that in terms of structures, the battlefield looked quite different by 1877. An 1877 map says little then about the state of the battlefield in October 1862. The most logical conclusion is that the structure was built in the mid-1870s.

CONCLUSION: Historical inquiry and revision is always welcome at the park, and over the years we have indeed altered several interpretations based upon new evidence. Mr. Gillum, however, has not proven his case to our satisfaction. Instead, our inquiry reconfirms the traditional interpretation of these events as currently depicted at the park.​
 
My response to the above was:

Interestingly this has become a review of Gillum's book somehow. Nonetheless, all of the points argued can easily be counter-argued. To be brief without addressing all of the points, but only some of the most significant ones:

The park states that the landscape had changed dramatically by 1877. What is not stated is that the map that was compiled and published in 1877 was not from a 1877 survey - but in fact from the surveys taken by Engineer officers Kilp and Ruger in October of 1862. This was a compilation of their information from 1862. There is not a name listed on that particular map that wasn't living in those locations in October of 1862. The Hafley home site is not in the vicinity of the playground at the park. The map shows that the site was due north of the cemetery. The cemetery was most likely a reference point that was added to the map for orientation purposes. A census study of Hayflay name shows no persons living in Perryville in either the 1870 or 1880 census. The entire Hafley family lived in Mitchellsburg south of Perryville, and were in Casey County by the 1880 census.

The Park does not address the fact that in a written statement to Savage, Maney stated that Savage's regiment had been engaged in action for no less than thirty minutes when his (Maney's) brigade came to his assistance. That means that according to current interpretations, Maney would have to have taken Open Knob, destroyed Terrill's brigade, captured Parsons' guns, attacked and caused the withdrawal of Starkweather, Stone and Bush within thirty minutes - IF - they came astride Savage's regiment - supposedly at the Widow Gibson's cabin in rear of Starkweather's line.

The Park claims that since there is no archaeological evidence of the Hafley home-site - that it didn't exist. Yet, they have not found the Widow Gibson home-site either - only the site of an old corn crib that they attribute to the Gibson's. So where was the Gibson cabin?

Marcus Toney of the 1st Tennessee wrote a memoir that was published called "Privations of a Private." In that book he mentions how his regiment had to veer to the right "to uncover" from Savage's regiment. This was so they could become engaged in action. That should be enough to know that the two units were in very close proximity to one another. This was also before the fall of Parsons' guns. That wasn't enough for historians though. A few years later, Toney wrote an article for the Nashville Banner about the battle of Perryville. He was far more detailed, as this was a battle specific article. These are two excerpts of the article:

"Our regiment, after crossing the stream, nearly dry, climbed the steep bluff and came up in rear of the Sixteenth Tennessee commanded by Colonel John H. Savage, which he called "the Panthers." The Sixteenth was engaged in a hot contest to capture the Parrott guns which were supported by a brigade of Illinois soldiers and Ohio soldiers commanded by General Jackson, from Hopkinsville, Kentucky. As we were moving by the right flank in the rear of Colonel Savage and endeavoring to uncover from his right, several of our men were shot before we got into action."

"When we charged the Ohio brigade with Colonel Savage of the Sixteenth Tennessee and Colonel George C. Porter of the 6th Tennessee, General Jackson, with sword drawn, attempted to rally his men but he was killed and his body fell in the line of company F, Captain Jack Butler (which was known as the Nashville and Chattanooga Railway boys). Tip Greenhalge of the company captured General Jackson's watch."

Historians have discredited the above participant source because he incorrectly identified Parsons' guns as "parrots." Who really cares what kind of guns are firing at you, you just know they are trying to kill you. Frank Cheatham even incorrectly identified Parsons' guns in his after action report calling them a "Battery of Eight Guns (12lb Napoleons) of the Enemy..." Apparently, historians believe that you must identify each and every gun of a battery or else your primary participant source is not valid.

So where did historians get the idea that Colonel Savage engaged Lieutenant Colonel Moore's Thirty-third Ohio when the Sixteenth Tennessee's advance most likely took them far north of Moore's position? Colonel Savage mentioned Colonel Moore on two pages of his autobiography. Apparently, part of this confusion came when Captain J. J. Womack of Company E informed Savage after the fight that he had found Lt. Col. Oscar F. Moore wounded on the field "about dusk." Specifically, Savage stated that Womack "directed a Rebel and a Yankee soldier to carry Colonel Moore to the Rebel hospital, about dusk." Later in the narrative, Savaged stated that "the Sixteenth charged and drove from its line of battle formed behind a fence the Thirty-third Ohio Regiment, and wounded and captured its colonel, Oscar F. Moore, with who Savage served in Congress, and that Savage directed his doctor to take the same care of Colonel Moore as he would take of himself if wounded." Just as with Marcus Toney's incorrect identification of the type of guns utilized by the enemy battery that were seized, it is probable that Savage merely assumed his regiment had engaged the Thirty-third Ohio. In the heat of combat, it's highly unlikely that Savage was aware of exactly which regiment his regiment confronted. It is only with the combination of accounts that we can gather an understanding of whom they engaged and where they were engaged. Just as the soldier-correspondent of the Cleveland Morning Leader stated, "One's own view is very limited at best, and few see more than the movements of their own company, or possibly, their regiment."

Without turning this into a book, Sanders did a great job with his book, although incorrectly related in the details.

There is little doubt that any historian could sit down face to face with Gillum (GunnyG) and actually make sense of the current interpretations. There is too much evidence to the contrary. It would be nice to see a symposium in Perryville to address the issues at hand, but highly unlikely anyone would be up to the task to argue the reevaluation. But, if they are, I will gladly take on the task. Thanks for your thoughts.
It was interesting the park's "conclusion" that it states that "our" inquiry reconfirms the traditional interpretations. There was no "Our" in the inquiry. It is clear that it was ONE person that cannot think outside the box. Besides, there's not much thinking to do when the evidence is staring you in the face. I would truly love a symposium in Perryville. But of course - I wouldn't be invited! LOL
 

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