Forrest The Brothers Forrest

[larry_cockerham]

Forrest goes historic!

I just saw a post from the commander of the SCV camp in Memphis announcing that Forrest Park, burial place of the Gen. and Mrs. Forrest is now on the National Register of Historic Places. I'd be willing to bet that ruffled a few democrat feathers in Memphis....

 

[footeghost]

As long as they did it For any reason, there are few more interesting charachters in our history whatever peoples beliefs. A true legend In his own lifetime and I wish everybody could 'see" the real man.

 

[larry_cockerham]

A Quote

"Ladies and Gentlemen I accept the flowers as a memento of
reconciliation between the white and colored races of the southern
states. I accept it more particularly as it comes from a colored lady,
for if there is any one on God's earth who loves the ladies I believe it
is myself. ( Immense applause and laughter.) I came here with the jeers
of some white people, who think that I am doing wrong. I believe I can
exert some influence, and do much to assist the people in strengthening
fraternal relations, and shall do all in my power to elevate every man
to depress none. (Applause.) I want to elevate you to take positions in
law offices, in stores, on farms, and wherever you are capable of going.
I have not said anything about politics today. I don't propose to say
anything about politics. You have a right to elect whom you please; vote
for the man you think best, and I think, when that is done, you and I
are freemen. Do as you consider right and honest in electing men for
office. I did not come here to make you a long speech, although invited
to do so by you. I am not much of a speaker, and my business prevented
me from preparing myself. I came to meet you as friends, and welcome you
to the white people. I want you to come nearer to us. When I can serve
you I will do so. We have but one flag, one country; let us stand
together. We may differ in color, but not in sentiment Many things have
been said about me which are wrong, and which white and black persons
here, who stood by me through the war, can contradict. Go to work, be
industrious, live honestly and act truly, and when you are oppressed
I'll come to your relief. I thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for this
opportunity you have afforded me to be with you, and to assure you that
I am with you in heart and in hand. (Prolonged applause.)"
--Nathan Bedford Forrest, Memphis Fairgrounds, July 5, 1875

The thoughts and words of a racist? Methinks not.

 

[bama46]

"Ladies and Gentlemen I accept the flowers as a memento of
reconciliation between the white and colored races of the southern
states. I accept it more particularly as it comes from a colored lady,
for if there is any one on God's earth who loves the ladies I believe it
is myself. ( Immense applause and laughter.) I came here with the jeers
of some white people, who think that I am doing wrong. I believe I can
exert some influence, and do much to assist the people in strengthening
fraternal relations, and shall do all in my power to elevate every man
to depress none. (Applause.) I want to elevate you to take positions in
law offices, in stores, on farms, and wherever you are capable of going.
I have not said anything about politics today. I don't propose to say
anything about politics. You have a right to elect whom you please; vote
for the man you think best, and I think, when that is done, you and I
are freemen. Do as you consider right and honest in electing men for
office. I did not come here to make you a long speech, although invited
to do so by you. I am not much of a speaker, and my business prevented
me from preparing myself. I came to meet you as friends, and welcome you
to the white people. I want you to come nearer to us. When I can serve
you I will do so. We have but one flag, one country; let us stand
together. We may differ in color, but not in sentiment Many things have
been said about me which are wrong, and which white and black persons
here, who stood by me through the war, can contradict. Go to work, be
industrious, live honestly and act truly, and when you are oppressed
I'll come to your relief. I thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for this
opportunity you have afforded me to be with you, and to assure you that
I am with you in heart and in hand. (Prolonged applause.)"
--Nathan Bedford Forrest, Memphis Fairgrounds, July 5, 1875

The thoughts and words of a racist? Methinks not.

Bless you for that...it is my absolute favorite statement by Gen Forrest, and one that IMO tells us exactly the man he was. If I had posted it, it would have been met with ridicule, but when you post it, it is received with the seriousness it deserves

ed

 

[larry_cockerham]

Ed, even if Ole had posted it, the ridicule would only have come from those who wear blinders even in the dark. I much appreciate your compliment. This was a man of substance in my humble opinion. A man of his time, no more no less. That's not completely my favorite quote, but some of the others are harder to get by the censor and the FCC!

 

[bama46]

Ed, even if Ole had posted it, the ridicule would only have come from those who wear blinders even in the dark. I much appreciate your compliment. This was a man of substance in my humble opinion. A man of his time, no more no less. That's not completely my favorite quote, but some of the others are harder to get by the censor and the FCC!

I understand the need to get certain statements past the censors and FCC... reminds me of a comment he made relative to the acquisition of a fine stud that he liberated from some Illinois troops...LOL

 

[larry_cockerham]

"liberated" ...... Something the General took great pleasure in with respect to yankee supplies.

 

[bama46]

"liberated" ...... Something the General took great pleasure in with respect to yankee supplies.

almost as much as he loved to "git in thar (their) rear"

 

[larry_cockerham]

almost as much as he loved to "git in thar (their) rear"

That and his ability to scout, continue the attack, and put up a front with a few theatrics thrown in from time to time were the basis of Forrest's tactical "genius", the things of which his legend was made. As Lt. Gould would have told us, he also put up a pretty good fight.

 

[larry_cockerham]

The boyhood home.

It's time to begin your planning for the annual gathering at the Forrest Boyhood Home in Marshall County, Tennessee!

William Forrest, father of Nathan (Lt. Gen. CSA) and twin sister Frances, John (Mexican War vet), William Hezekiah (Capt. MS Cav.), Mary, Aaron (Capt. 6th MS), Jesse (Lt. Col. 20th TN), Isaac, Bedford, Milly and Jeffrey E. (Lt. Col.), bought part of his grandfather's farm in 1830 in what was then Bedford County, Tennessee. He moved west to Tippah, now Benton, County, Mississippi in 1834.

This property now referred to as the Forrest Boyhood Home, in honor of the General has belonged to the Sons of Confederate Veterans for several years and is still being lovingly (yes, that's actually true) restored by our membership.

June 20, a Saturday, is the day of the festival. Horses, big people with guns, pretty ladies, music of the old South, cannons, art, blacksmiths, a few hotdogs and soda pop (an old suthern drink) will be there in abundance to raise a few bucks for continuing work as this place continues it journey to museum quality. It's gettin' there. We can use your help and would love to show you around. A general, a colonel, and two captains of the Confederate army once played in this yard, rocky as it is.

Save up some gas money and come join us! We'll have plenty of signs up along TN highway 99 off I-65 interchange 46 going east toward Henry Horton State Park. Try to speak slowly. Thanks.

 

[ole]

Oughtn't you be working, Larry? I have an excuse. You do not.

Retired Ole.

 

[larry_cockerham]

Two days un-requested, unwanted, unpaid, time off due to slow economy. I'll drag my old semi-bony butt out of the sack early Monday morning and head back to the mine, or at least the coffee pot in the break room. I've actually been 'retired' for two years, doing a little double dipping and getting minimal exercise. Spending money is nice. I hope I don't get to liking this foray into the leisure class.

 

[richard]

I am wondering if "retirement" has caused Larry to miss read the date or is it really in Janurary and not June? I know that it was very warm when I was there 2 years ago.

 

[footeghost]

arry_cockerham;118852]It's time to begin your planning for the annual gathering at the Forrest Boyhood Home in Marshall County, Tennessee!

William Forrest, father of Nathan (Lt. Gen. CSA) and twin sister Frances, John (Mexican War vet), William Hezekiah (Capt. MS Cav.), Mary, Aaron (Capt. 6th MS), Jesse (Lt. Col. 20th TN), Isaac, Bedford, Milly and Jeffrey E. (Lt. Col.), bought part of his grandfather's farm in 1830 in what was then Bedford County, Tennessee. He moved west to Tippah, now Benton, County, Mississippi in 1834.

This property now referred to as the Forrest Boyhood Home, in honor of the General has belonged to the Sons of Confederate Veterans for several years and is still being lovingly (yes, that's actually true) restored by our membership.

January 20, a Saturday is the day of the festival. Horses, big people with guns, pretty ladies, music of the old South, cannons, art, blacksmiths, a few hotdogs and soda pop (an old suthern drink) will be there in abundance to raise a few bucks for continuing work as this place continues it journey to museum quality. It's gettin' there. We can use your help and would love to show you around. A general, a colonel, and two captains of the Confederate army once played in this yard, rocky as it is.

Save up some gas money and come join us! We'll have plenty of signs up along TN highway 99 off I-65 interchange 46 going east toward Henry Horton State Park. Try to speak slowly. Thanks.[/quote]



If Larry is mistaken I think I would still go I think

 

[larry_cockerham]

June 20, 2009!

It's time to begin your planning for the annual gathering at the Forrest Boyhood Home in Marshall County, Tennessee!

William Forrest, father of Nathan (Lt. Gen. CSA) and twin sister Frances, John (Mexican War vet), William Hezekiah (Capt. MS Cav.), Mary, Aaron (Capt. 6th MS), Jesse (Lt. Col. 20th TN), Isaac, Bedford, Milly and Jeffrey E. (Lt. Col.), bought part of his grandfather's farm in 1830 in what was then Bedford County, Tennessee. He moved west to Tippah, now Benton, County, Mississippi in 1834.

This property now referred to as the Forrest Boyhood Home, in honor of the General has belonged to the Sons of Confederate Veterans for several years and is still being lovingly (yes, that's actually true) restored by our membership.

January 20, a Saturday is the day of the festival. Horses, big people with guns, pretty ladies, music of the old South, cannons, art, blacksmiths, a few hotdogs and soda pop (an old suthern drink) will be there in abundance to raise a few bucks for continuing work as this place continues it journey to museum quality. It's gettin' there. We can use your help and would love to show you around. A general, a colonel, and two captains of the Confederate army once played in this yard, rocky as it is.

Save up some gas money and come join us! We'll have plenty of signs up along TN highway 99 off I-65 interchange 46 going east toward Henry Horton State Park. Try to speak slowly. Thanks.

OOPS! Finally some real proof someone is reading my mess. Thank you, Richard. Hope to see you there again. Gene Andrews is still making considerable progress.

 

[larry_cockerham]

OOPS! Finally some real proof someone is reading my mess. Thank you, Richard. Hope to see you there again. Gene Andrews is still making considerable progress.

If some of you still aren't planning on being in Marshall County, TN on June 20, there's still time to change your plans. The work on the Forrest barn is well-along and is a piece of history (the original Forrest family barn still in place on what was the property of Shadrack Forrest [the General's grandpa] built around 1810, that is worth the price of admission alone.

 

[Bobbie]

Larry,
I've just recalled my old question... Have you reached a verdict as to Nathan Bedford Forrest's eye color? I remember the color of Ole's eyes, but what about Genl Forrest?

(I'm not sighing nor blushing this time)

 

[larry_cockerham]

Larry,
I've just recalled my old question... Have you reached a verdict as to Nathan Bedford Forrest's eye color? I remember the color of Ole's eyes, but what about Genl Forrest?

(I'm not sighing nor blushing this time)

Ole's eyes are bloodshot. As for Forrest, no conclusions from here.

 

[larry_cockerham]

The wizard and religion.

I recently wrote a response to a message concerning Dr. Michael Bradley and his life-long study of Forrest on another thread in this forum. Dr. Bradley's latest topic of interest is the life-long bout that Forrest (like many of us) had with religion. Married to a lady, Mary Montgomery Forrest, the daughter of a minister who must have been somewhat of a saint herself, the General became a life-long project for his determined bride. General Forrest was not exactly a choir boy, for one thing his voice was too deep. His vocabulary was the other problem, plus the fact he sold folks into slavery and shot an occasional undisciplined soldier. Nonetheless Mary eventually "brought him to the Lord". In his later years ol' Bedford was a man of God who became one of the very first civil rights activists in our great land. Hard to believe, but those were the results of several years work by a most stubborn lady. Dr. Bradley will be attending one of our SCV camp meetings soon and speaking on this work. I'll report the content once I've listened.

 

[bama46]

I recently wrote a response to a message concerning Dr. Michael Bradley and his life-long study of Forrest on another thread in this forum. Dr. Bradley's latest topic of interest is the life-long bout that Forrest (like many of us) had with religion. Married to a lady, Mary Montgomery Forrest, the daughter of a minister who must have been somewhat of a saint herself, the General became a life-long project for his determined bride. General Forrest was not exactly a choir boy, for one thing his voice was too deep. His vocabulary was the other problem, plus the fact he sold folks into slavery and shot an occasional undisciplined soldier. Nonetheless Mary eventually "brought him to the Lord". In his later years ol' Bedford was a man of God who became one of the very first civil rights activists in our great land. Hard to believe, but those were the results of several years work by a most stubborn lady. Dr. Bradley will be attending one of our SCV camp meetings soon and speaking on this work. I'll report the content once I've listened.

I wish I could be in attendance.. I anxiously await your report

Ed