Longstreet

[rpkennedy]

There was a decent chance, but the gamble was expensive regardless if it ended in victory or defeat in both manpower and supplies for the ANV. That is why I see an alternative for day 3.

The mountain keeps Lee up North threatening Baltimore and Washington DC. This obviously does not cut off the road to Washington, however, Meade was going to have to do something whether he was ordered to engage Lee or not. By continuing the campaign, the AOP stays out of Va and increases dissension for the war in the North.

Lee is relying on foraging to survive while in Pennsylvania and holing up in the mountain passes doesn't help Lee at all. Not to mention that the longer that Lee holds his position, Union reinforcements will continue to arrive, tipping the balance more in Meade's favor.

R

 

[Alaskazimm]

, Union reinforcements will continue to arrive, tipping the balance more in Marie's favor.

R

Darn auto-correct, eh?

 

[Lost Cause]

Lee is relying on foraging to survive while in Pennsylvania and holing up in the mountain passes doesn't help Lee at all. Not to mention that the longer that Lee holds his position, Union reinforcements will continue to arrive, tipping the balance more in Marie's favor.

R

As I previously stated, it keeps the AOP out of Va and continues to alarm the north. Remember, many in the north we're becoming war weary. Supplies were his problem.

 

[cash]

There was a decent chance, but the gamble was expensive regardless if it ended in victory or defeat in both manpower and supplies for the ANV. That is why I see an alternative for day 3.

The mountain keeps Lee up North threatening Baltimore and Washington DC. This obviously does not cut off the road to Washington, however, Meade was going to have to do something whether he was ordered to engage Lee or not. By continuing the campaign, the AOP stays out of Va and increases dissension for the war in the North.

The mountain doesn't threaten anything. Meade can easily slide to the east of the mountain and is not compelled to attack. That's all he has to do. Lee can't stay there for long because he has to forage. It's a bad move for Lee because he has to leave soon anyway.

 

[cash]

As I previously stated, it keeps the AOP out of Va and continues to alarm the north. Remember, many in the north we're becoming war weary. Supplies were his problem.

If Lee moves to Catoctin Mountain he's not in the North anymore. He's in Maryland, which is in the South. He can't stay long because he has to feed his army, and in order to do that he had to be able to forage. He couldn't forage for long if he stayed in one place. And as RP pointed out, the longer he stays in one place, the more time the Federals have to move more troops into the area, lengthening the odds against him and increasing the odds he will be cut off.

 

[Lost Cause]

The mountain doesn't threaten anything. Meade can easily slide to the east of the mountain and is not compelled to attack. That's all he has to do. Lee can't stay there for long because he has to forage. It's a bad move for Lee because he has to leave soon anyway.

No he could not stay there for long, but Meade would likely spread himself thin in anticipation of what Lee would do next. Therefore Lee would regain the initiative. Again, the problem is supplies. I know the ANV was supposed to forage off the land, but perhaps available supplies could have come from the valley corridor in Va. As far as munitions, if The ANV only had enough for a 3 day battle, better preparation should have been made at the onset of the campaign.

 

[Lost Cause]

If Lee moves to Catoctin Mountain he's not in the North anymore. He's in Maryland, which is in the South. He can't stay long because he has to feed his army, and in order to do that he had to be able to forage. He couldn't forage for long if he stayed in one place. And as RP pointed out, the longer he stays in one place, the more time the Federals have to move more troops into the area, lengthening the odds against him and increasing the odds he will be cut off.

Maryland was a border state if you want to be specific.

 

[cash]

No he could not stay there for long, but Meade would likely spread himself thin in anticipation of what Lee would do next. Therefore Lee would regain the initiative.

Not at all. Meade's orders were to be the covering force for DC and Baltimore. His cavalry is there to keep an eye on what Lee is doing.

Again, the problem is supplies. I know the ANV was supposed to forage off the land, but perhaps available supplies could have come from the valley corridor in Va. As far as munitions, if The ANV only had enough for a 3 day battle, better preparation should have been made at the onset of the campaign.

Lee had no supply lines coming north from Virginia. It would take a long time to set that up and get it operating.

 

[cash]

Maryland was a border state if you want to be specific.

A border state is a slave state in the south that borders on the north. Maryland is below the Mason-Dixon Line, putting it squarely in the south.

 

[Lost Cause]

A border state is a slave state in the south that borders on the north. Maryland is below the Mason-Dixon Line, putting it squarely in the south.

I would tell you that this remains north of Washington DC and you would still argue the point for the sake of arguing. Therefore, I will refrain from further discussion on the matter.

 

[rpkennedy]

Darn auto-correct, eh?

It came up as "Meade" until I added that " 's ".

R

 

[ole]

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Lee had no supply lines coming north from Virginia. It would take a long time to set that up and get it operating.

Are you sure there were no supply lines. I had under stood that there were a few wagons -- totally inadequate but not quite none.

 

[Jamieva]

Meade would just sit between Catoctin and DC and wait in that scenario. Meade has time on his side Lee doesn't. I think Lee could've/would've gotten some supplies from VA with that move but enough to matter? No

 

[cash]

I would tell you that this remains north of Washington DC and you would still argue the point for the sake of arguing. Therefore, I will refrain from further discussion on the matter.

Washington, DC is a city that's in the south. Basic US Geography.

 

[cash]

Are you sure there were no supply lines. I had under stood that there were a few wagons -- totally inadequate but not quite none.

No supply running north. Lee was living off the land.

 

[JEB]

Agreed .

Lee was on his own . Gathering supplies now became more dangerous in the face of the Union Army .

 

[ole]

No supply running north. Lee was living off the land.

Dang. I'm gonna have to find that book. And search it. You are cruel, Cash.

 

[Barrycdog]

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[Barrycdog]

Early in 1862, during a scarlet fever epidemic, three of the four Longstreet children (Mary Anne, James, and Augustus Baldwin) died within eight days. The blow was almost too much for Longstreet; he hurriedly went to Richmond. It was some days before he could leave his wife and 13-year-old son Garland, who were devastated by the tragedy.

The loss affected the general greatly. An aide noted that his "grief was very deep," while others commented on his change in
personality. Because the Longstreets were too grief-stricken, General George Pickett and his fiancee LaSalle Corbett made the burial arrangements.
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[cash]

Dang. I'm gonna have to find that book. And search it. You are cruel, Cash.

I must be cruel in order to be kind.