Hooker quite capable at Brandy Station

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Not too long after Chancellorsville note that Hooker is quite alive and well here at Brandy Station. It is HIS cavalry. Remember when we get to Gettysburg that it is not Meade's ARMY, it is one he borrows from Joe Hooker. Joseph Hooker's Cavalry gives a surprise attack on JEB Stuart at Brandy, also called the Battle of Fleetwood Hill. It was kind of a reversal of the roles at Chancellorsville. Confederate newspapers were highly critical of the Stuart's Confederate Cavalry at Brandy Station. Lee should have listened to his own press in their criticism of Stuart for his own good coming in to Gettysburg.

The Battle of Brandy Station was fought on June 9, 1863. It was was the largest cavalry battle of the Civil War and the first fight of the Gettysburg Campaign. The battle spread over a wide area north and east of Brandy Station, Virginia, a stop on the Orange & Alexandria Railroad just west of the Rappahannock River.

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The Battle of Brandy Station

During the month of stalemate after the Battle of Chancellorsville Robert E. Lee conceived what was to become the Gettysburg Campaign. First he reorganized his Army of Northern Virginia from two to three Army Corps due to the loss of "Stonewall" Jackson at Chancellorsville. Then he concentrated his First and Second Corps at Culpeper while leaving his Third Corps holding the defenses along the south bank of the Rappahannock around Fredericksburg. From their position on the left of Lee's line the First and Second Corps could move around the flank of Hooker's army and into the Shenandoah Valley. This would provide a route deep into Pennsylvania shielded by the mountains of the Blue Ridge.

For this plan to work Lee had to keep his intentions from Hooker as long as possible. If Hooker knew that Lee had pulled most of his men from the Rappahannock defenses he could potentially overwhelm Lee's Third Corps in its thinly-held lines. Hooker could also throw his army onto Lee's flank as it was stretched out and vulnerable on the march into the Shenandoah. It was critical for Lee to shield the concentration of his infantry at Culpeper.

The cavalry take position

Lee concentrated his cavalry division under J.E.B. Stuart at Brandy Station. It was a small whistle stop on the Orange and Alexandria Railroad in between Culpeper and the Union position north of the Rappahannock River. From there Stuart would be in the perfect position to keep his cavalry in between the infantry and any snooping Federal forces after the Confederates began their march north.

But Hooker knew something was developing. His intelligence operation under Colonel George H. Sharpe had picked up on Lee's movements and provided strong hints of a strong cavalry raid or even a flanking movement. But Hooker needed hard evidence. He ordered his cavalry commander, Brigadier General Alfred Pleasanton, to cross the Rappahannock and "disperse and destroy" Stuart's cavalry.

Pleasanton's surprise

At dawn on June 9 Pleasanton's troopers crossed the Rappahannock at Beverly Ford and six miles downriver at Kelly's Ford. He hoped it would be a crushing double envelopment. There was confusion and delay in the Kelly's Ford column while the other column was hampered by the death of a brigade commander. Pleasanton did not have nearly the superiority in numbers that he thought he had. But the Confederates had spent the last two days in exhausting reviews for Stuart and Lee. They were surprised, and a number of Confederate cavalrymen rode into battle without saddles or boots in their haste of mounting up.

The fighting lasted all day, with the central terrain feature of Fleetwood Hill changing hands several times. In the end the Federals withdrew. They suffered higher casualties and had not broken through Stuart's screen to confirm the location of Lee's infantry. But the fact that the Union cavalry had stood a 14 hour knockdown fight with Stuart's finest was a tremendous morale boost. From this point on Union cavalry would become bolder and deadlier. By the 1864 Shenandoah Valley Campaign and the 1865 Appomattox Campaign they had become an elite, decisive arm.

Stuart, in turn, felt the heat for being surprised in his camps after two days of showy reviews. The Richmond papers used terms such as "puffed up cavalry," and "negligence and bad management." Did this criticism push Stuart into his disastrous ride around the Union army that left Lee blind at the critical point of the Gettysburg campaign? Whatever the answer, the effects of the Battle of Brandy Station were felt far beyond the banks of the Rappahannock.
 
Brandy Station was Stuart's worst battlefield defeat before July 3, primarily due to carelessness. However, the Confederate press reaction to Brandy Station was probably driven in a large part by Stuart's apparent invincibility up to that point.

I put little value in Civil War newspapers which tended to be hyper-partisan and poorly informed. They were influential but not a good source of facts or critique.

And yet despite the strongest showing to date by AOTP cavalry, the Union horsemen failed to penetrate the Confederate cavalry screen and identify the location of the ANV infantry corps.

Furthermore, there are three largely forgotten cavalry engagements after Brandy Station but before the two armies were across the Potomac. The Confederates gave a better showing in those battles and the Union cavalry failed to penetrate the Blue Ridge gaps and find Lee.

Eric Wittenberg has a book, The Union Cavalry Comes Of Age, that details Hooker's reorganization of the AOTP cavalry and it's subsequent fighting at Kelly's Ford, Chancellorsville Campaign, and Brandy Station.
 
Brandy Station was Stuart's worst battlefield defeat before July 3, primarily due to carelessness. However, the Confederate press reaction to Brandy Station was probably driven in a large part by Stuart's apparent invincibility up to that point.

I put little value in Civil War newspapers which tended to be hyper-partisan and poorly informed. They were influential but not a good source of facts or critique.

And yet despite the strongest showing to date by AOTP cavalry, the Union horsemen failed to penetrate the Confederate cavalry screen and identify the location of the ANV infantry corps.

Furthermore, there are three largely forgotten cavalry engagements after Brandy Station but before the two armies were across the Potomac. The Confederates gave a better showing in those battles and the Union cavalry failed to penetrate the Blue Ridge gaps and find Lee.

Eric Wittenberg has a book, The Union Cavalry Comes Of Age, that details Hooker's reorganization of the AOTP cavalry and it's subsequent fighting at Kelly's Ford, Chancellorsville Campaign, and Brandy Station.
Eric also did a nice stand-alone on Brandy Station for the History Press in 2010. Both books are recommended.
 
Brandy Station was Stuart's worst battlefield defeat before July 3, primarily due to carelessness.
Except that Stuart won the battle by every measure, Josh. He held the field at the end of the day and he also prevented Pleasonton from achieving his primary mission, as ordered by Hooker, which was the destruction or dispersal of the large concentration of cavalry in Culpeper County. Where he suffered his first real battlefield defeat was at Upperville on June 21, when he got routed.
 
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Egad! Hyper partisan newspapers? Fast forward 160 years and as much as some things change, they still stay the same.
Brandy Station was Stuart's worst battlefield defeat before July 3, primarily due to carelessness. However, the Confederate press reaction to Brandy Station was probably driven in a large part by Stuart's apparent invincibility up to that point.

I put little value in Civil War newspapers which tended to be hyper-partisan and poorly informed. They were influential but not a good source of facts or critique.

And yet despite the strongest showing to date by AOTP cavalry, the Union horsemen failed to penetrate the Confederate cavalry screen and identify the location of the ANV infantry corps.

Furthermore, there are three largely forgotten cavalry engagements after Brandy Station but before the two armies were across the Potomac. The Confederates gave a better showing in those battles and the Union cavalry failed to penetrate the Blue Ridge gaps and find Lee.

Eric Wittenberg has a book, The Union Cavalry Comes Of Age, that details Hooker's reorganization of the AOTP cavalry and it's subsequent fighting at Kelly's Ford, Chancellorsville Campaign, and Brandy Station.
 
I believe Catton mentioned something in Glory Road like the following: When some staff officers decided to spread the rumor that McClellan was back in charge to inspire the men, it fell flat. The AoP was no longer McClellan's. It was not Hooker's either. The men had grown up. They no longer need the personality to lead them. They knew their job and what they were fighting for. in many ways Meade's leadership style and later Grant's suited the Army.
 
"It is HIS cavalry. Remember when we get to Gettysburg that it is not Meade's ARMY, it is one he borrows from Joe Hooker"
Wow, how'd you come up with that one!
Here's Meade brimming with confidence --Just before leaving Frederick City he seized the first opportunity that had offered to write personally to Mrs. Meade as to the wondrous change in his affairs. To Mra. George G. Meade: HIlADQUARTEBS .AJwy 01' TBlIl POTOMAC, June 29,1863. It has pleased Almighty God to place me in the trying position that for some time past we have been talking about. Yesterday morning, at 3 A. M., I was aroused from my sleep by an officer from Washington entering my tent, and after waking me up, saying he had come to give me trouble. At first I thought that it was either to relieve or arrest me, and promptly replied to him, that my conscience was clear, void of offense towards any man; I was prepared for his bad news. He then handed me a communication to read; which I found was an order relieving Hooker from the command and assigning me to it. As, dearest, you know how reluctant we both have been to see me placed in this position, and as it appears to be God's will for some good purpose-at any rate, as a soldier,
 
Here's Meade brimming with confidence --Just before leaving Frederick City he seized the first opportunity that had offered to write personally to Mrs. Meade as to the wondrous change in his affairs. To Mra. George G. Meade: HIlADQUARTEBS .AJwy 01' TBlIl POTOMAC, June 29,1863. It has pleased Almighty God to place me in the trying position that for some time past we have been talking about. Yesterday morning, at 3 A. M., I was aroused from my sleep by an officer from Washington entering my tent, and after waking me up, saying he had come to give me trouble. At first I thought that it was either to relieve or arrest me, and promptly replied to him, that my conscience was clear, void of offense towards any man; I was prepared for his bad news. He then handed me a communication to read; which I found was an order relieving Hooker from the command and assigning me to it. As, dearest, you know how reluctant we both have been to see me placed in this position, and as it appears to be God's will for some good purpose-at any rate, as a soldier,
What on earth do you think this proves? We know what Meade accomplished at Gettysburg. "Brimming with confidence" may sell for pr agents but it means nothing.

Need proof? Here's an example of an army CO who was "brimming with confidence" before a battle: "our enemy must either ingloriously fly, or come out from behind his defenses and give us battle on our own ground, where certain destruction awaits him."

Care to guess who the CO was? Care to guess which battle followed?
 
What on earth do you think this proves? We know what Meade accomplished at Gettysburg. "Brimming with confidence" may sell for pr agents but it means nothing.

Need proof? Here's an example of an army CO who was "brimming with confidence" before a battle: "our enemy must either ingloriously fly, or come out from behind his defenses and give us battle on our own ground, where certain destruction awaits him."

Care to guess who the CO was? Care to guess which battle followed?
Or "may God have mercy on Gn Lee, for I will have none".

As, dearest, you know how reluctant we both have been to see me placed in this position, and as it appears to be God's will for some good purpose-at any rate, as a soldier,

"brimming with confidence"??. Sounds reluctant to me. How many bad takes do you have?
 
This thread has me at a loss. I don't believe that Hooker was anywhere near Brandy Station during the battle. I also don't think Pleasanton really had much to do with it after planning. Much of what happened there was the result of the Federal division commanders. Buford and Gregg had laid the foundation for the cavalry to become what it became. Notice I've left out Duffie.
 
Or "may God have mercy on Gn Lee, for I will have none".

As, dearest, you know how reluctant we both have been to see me placed in this position, and as it appears to be God's will for some good purpose-at any rate, as a soldier,

"brimming with confidence"??. Sounds reluctant to me. How many bad takes do you have?
To put it mildly, "brimming with confidence" is over valued on many occasions. In fact, some times it's a cover for the opposite ...
 

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