Handgun Evolution

Dear Bob:

Do you remember the "Factor's Walk Military Museum" not too far from The Boar's Head? It was operated by Col. Lindsey P. Henderson, Jr and it contained his personal collection of Civil War era arms and artifacts. He started collecting Civil War items in the 1930's when he was growing up in Savannah.

Col Henderson was also one of the co-founders of the North-South Skirmish Association unit in Savannah, the Oglethorpe Light Infantry.
Back in 1972 [as I recall] I was a member of the OLI and I was planning on going to the N-SSA Nationals at Fort Shenandoah outside of Winchester, VA.

The N-SSA had added a new competition to the National Skirmish that year-it was the Carbine Team Matches. As I didn't have a carbine, I called Col. Henderson and asked if I could borrow a carbine from him. He said: "Yes, but you will have to stop by the museum to pick it up."

So, I was packed and my car was loaded when I stopped by the museum. When I walked into the museum I told the old gentleman that was the "Curator" that I was there to pick up the carbine Col. Henderson said I could borrow.

The old man handed me a screwdriver and pointed to a glass case across the room. In that glass case was an original Smith Carbine on display.

Well, 5 minutes later I had the carbine out of the glass case, wrapped it in a blanket and thanking the old man, I headed for my car and then for Virginia.

I arrived at Fort Shanandoah late that night after a long drive. Threw up my tent and was soon sound asleep. The next morning I hit "Sutler's Row," purchased a hundred Smith cases, a hundred Smith bullets. I went over to a friend's house in Winchester and he helped me load the ammo.

Anyway, later that afternoon, when I stepped on the firing line at Fort Shanandoah for the Carbine Team Match-I had absolutely NO idea where that Smith was hitting. Fortunately, the first event was a clay board at 50 yards and back in those days, I had very good eyesight.

I aimed at a clay, squeezed and it blew apart. From the hole in the board, I could see that the carbine was "Dead On." Needless to say, I hit my fair share of targets and was very happy with the Smith. Matter of fact, I had a Great Time!

The following Tuesday, I was back in Savannah and dropped by Col. Henderson's home to return the carbine. I handed the carbine to Col. Henderson and thanked him. I also told him I really appreciated the fact that he had "Sighted" the carbine in.

He laughed and told me: "Until you shot it at the Nationals, it probably hadn't been fired since 1864."

According to Col. Henderson, the Smith had belonged to a Cavalryman from Savannah who was wounded in one of the battles outside of Richmond in 1864. He was sent to the Confederate Hospital in Richmond. After he died, his personal effects were sent to his family in Savannah. Included in that trunk was that Smith Carbine. In the mid-1930's Col Henderson had purchased that trunk from the estate of the cavalryman's old maid daughter. Inside the trunk besides the carbine was a uniform, shirts, a bitters bottle, and a belt and holster but the pistol that had been in the holster at one time was missing.

Well, that Smith Carbine went back in that display case at the Factors Walk Military Museum. I was left with some fond memories of a unique experience. It wasn't too long after that I purchased my first Smith Carbine. I still own one. They are FUN guns to shoot!
 
I do remember the museum, but didn't recall the name. I probably saw that carbine in person as my main collection is centered around the civil war carbines. I have a nice Smith with a great bore, but haven't shot it. I have an original Maynard that I shoot regular, but most of mine are just fondled regularly. Is the museum still located there? Great story.
 
I received this email today:
"Hi Chuck, ahh I have a reproduction of an old navy 1851 black powder . It belongs to a friend of mine, it was all rusted up so I did a complete disassembly and of course theres that one part that popped out and I can't figure out how to put it back together. Do you think I might find a book on it at the library?"
Is there a website showing this weapon completly broken down, and, showing each parts proper position in the assembly??
Thanks in advance!
 
You are right on that a 2" group at 200 meters is not inaccurate. The reality is if the AK74 can get 2" at 100 meters that would be a wonder. The Drugonov was designed as a sniper on the AK design, but fired the 7.62X54R. It was mildly accurate, but a M1D Garand sniper rifle is capable of superb accuracy. I have a heavy barrel Colt Match Target AR15 that shoots half minute of angle groups all day long. An average mil spec AK is lucky to shoot consistant 4" groups at 100 meters. The AK is a great tool but far from a precision instrument. It does exactly what it was designed for very well.

They had a show about 2 weeks ago on the history channel, I forgot the name of it, but it is about weapons and the host is a ex army ranger. He was comparing the advantages/disadvantages of the Garand against the 47. They put up two shooting courses and a combat course. Him and a expert on the 47 shot the courses and switched guns and did it again. The ranger stated without a doubt he would take the Garand due to its much greater accuracy but admitted that if the combat got very close and personal that he would of made a mistake.
 
I wish they had tried the m-14 against the AK. M-1 has only one big problem, the 8 shot clip.

The more I think about it I may of been confusing shows, it was late at night being sick when I posted.
It may of been the more modern version. My mistake, I think. I will try to find a copy of show and make correction if needed.
 
No you were correct. They did only use the M-1 against the AK. The show was repeated last week on the Military Channel and I caught it at work.
The more I think about it I may of been confusing shows, it was late at night being sick when I posted.
It may of been the more modern version. My mistake, I think. I will try to find a copy of show and make correction if needed.
 
Back in 1970 I was living on the family farm only 60 miles out of Savannah. Back in those days, Coors did not distribute their beer East of the Mississippi River.

Coors was ONLY available in Savannah because Army chopper pilots would fly from Hunter, to Texas and load up the Huey with cases of Coors. On the flight back, they would land in a field outside of Savannah, unload the beer into a waiting pick up truck and then fly to Hunter.

My understanding was that a lot of army pilots were taking a lot of "Training Flights" to Texas and back!
 
No you were correct. They did only use the M-1 against the AK. The show was repeated last week on the Military Channel and I caught it at work.

Whew, thanks for the update. One minute my mind was saying I was right, the next I was thinking what was I thinking about, lol. I remember on the shooting course set up at 100 yards, then run to 75, then to 50 and finally 25 yards, the m-1 was killing the ak47 until the m1 jammed. So I guess the ak wins on reliability, lol. But the ex ranger said he would rather have the m1 in battle situations.
 
The Glocks were revolutionary in their use of plastics in firearms that changed the industry. Now there is a company called Chiappa that is trying a new idea that could change how revolvers are made. The barrel is located at the bottom of the cylinder instead of the top with more weight over the barrel greatly reducing recoil. The gun is called the Rhino. They have some small problems to overcome but if rectified could revolutionize the revolver.
 
The Glocks were revolutionary in their use of plastics in firearms that changed the industry. Now there is a company called Chiappa that is trying a new idea that could change how revolvers are made. The barrel is located at the bottom of the cylinder instead of the top with more weight over the barrel greatly reducing recoil. The gun is called the Rhino. They have some small problems to overcome but if rectified could revolutionize the revolver.

The Rhino isn't a new design at all but dates to the 80's & the old Soviet Union...
 
Interesting, the name of the revolver and the name of the company both come from the owner of the company, Rhino Chiappa. The company also operates under ArmiChiappa, ArmiSport, and ArmiSport Chiappa. Take your choice. They are deeply involved in general arms production of a large assortment of modern arms, like the "Black Guns", as in the whole genre of AR 15 nock-offs. I think our repro Civil War arms are in the minority!

To each his own.

Jobe
 
I remember, not only the guys doing the tests for the Army, but some of my Marine buds, said the same thing; the 92F was the worst handgun they tested of the lot. If you know what you are doing and are close enough, you can remove the receiver quicker than the other guy can draw and pull the trigger, I know, we used to practice all the time. The Hi Power is a fine weapon, as is the 1911 (assuming of course you have one that was not manufactured in 1911, like the one I had with a smooth bore and a good shake would disassemble the weapon in about half a second.)

For long arms, I prefer the M 14. It is heavy, the ammo is heavy and the mags have less capacity, but if you can see them, they are dead. A breeze to field strip and clean, will fire even when badly neglected. I never could figure out why the mini 14 was not adopted, all the benefits of the M 16, with the ruggedness of the M 14.
 

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