Whoops! I did it again....Colt 1849

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I've been interested in/attracted to the Colt 1849 "pocket pistol" for some time and had asked about its popularity several months ago here - https://civilwartalk.com/threads/why-do-i-want-a-model-1849-colt.198930/

Like the recently purchased Whitney Navy, I didn't set out looking for one but happen to run across one at a price that seemed very reasonable. Despite not being "in the market" for one, I pulled the trigger (pun intended) and bought it. From the pics it seemed to be in pretty good shape for the price, but it wasn't until it arrived that I could see what a gem it seems to be.

As most probably already know, this model was the best selling pistol for Colt with about 340,000 of them being produced from 1847 to 1873. There are many documented varieties, variations, etc. of this popular handgun - I've heard it stated that there are more than 500 varieties but not sure if that's accurate. Regardless, this was a very popular pistol in its time.

This example of the Colt Model 1849 is a 5-shot, .31 caliber pistol with a 4-inch barrel. The serial numbers are all matching including the wedge, cylinder, and cylinder pin. The action functions crisply and the grips retain some of their original varnish. From what I can tell, this example was produced in 1860. What makes it a bit unusual is that is has the 2-line Hartford address.

Although dated, the book Colt's Variations of the Old Model Pocket Pistol 1848 to 1872 by P. L. Shumaker addresses these Hartford 1849s as follows: "According to data which has been compiled over a period of many years, this information would place the time of the 2-line Hartford production at from 1858 to sometime in 1861" and that "fewer that 6,000 were made." "Here is a group of pocket pistols which, by any fair method of measurement, is nearly twice as rare as the presently much-sought-after Baby Dragoons."

Shumaker goes on to hypothesize and provide evidence to support this hypothesis, that the Hartford 1849s were produced by using parts repatriated from London when Colt closed his factory there in 1857. An interesting note: Shumaker had metallurgy tests conducted on numerous 1849s of many models produced here and in London in an attempt to support his hypothesis, thinking the Hartfords would show English steel and thus provide proof. What is interesting is that the tests revealed that ALL the models tested, New Yorks, Londons, and Hartfords were all made of American steel; none used English steel in their construction. He concludes that in order to avoid the possibility of English steel makers sabotaging his efforts in London (he wasn't popular there and the competition he brought to English manufacturers wasn't welcomed), Colt imported his steel billets for pistol fabrication from America, and being the frugal businessman he was, shipped all the unused parts back to America for use in his factory here in 1857.

About the Hartford 1849, Shumaker concludes, "It would probably be well for collectors to remember that, at best, not over 6,000 of these 2-line Hartfords of ALL types were ever produced, and that because the Hartfords were manufactured just prior to and during the early years of the Civil War, it is reasonable to suppose that more of them saw use in and out of the service than many of the other Pocket Model Pistol types mentioned previously. For this reason alone, it is to be expected that many of the 6,000 2-line Hartfords passed out of existence through use and abuse. Undoubtedly this fact has contributed to the scarcity of these varieties, and to the fact that collectors can never expect to find any considerable number of Hartfords. Any specimen you have is to be respected." (I realize there are more modern reference books of this iconic pistol and welcome clarification or more info on the Hartford models as applicable).

Regardless of rarity, I am exceptionally pleased with this example. It is all-matching, functions perfectly, has crisp clear markings, and retains all of its "Stagecoach Robbery" cylinder scene. To my knowledge it's not Confederate, but for a 3-digit price tag I'm happy with it.

Here is my Hartford Colt Model 1849:

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Congrats on your purchase! I am a huge fan of the 4 inch version of the 1849 Pocket. You have a pretty darn good cylinder scene....I only wish mine were as good. My only knock against the 4 inch is that it has virtually no twist in the rifling. I like to shoot my antiques, so this matters to me. Seems they rifled them all as if they were a 6 inch, with the progressive twist only beginning to accelerate its rate of twist after the 4 inch mark....that is, they didn't use a different rifling machine to adjust for the 4 inch length to ensure a full twist rate to the muzzle. I would imagine the 5" has more twist than the 4" but not as much as the fully developed twist in the 6".

I really like the look of yours! :thumbsup:
 
You and me both. Been looking at the 1849 Hartfords for years (and I mean years!) but unwilling to pay the asking price. Came very close at numerous auctions. Well fell into some money after some hard work (Executor, what a pain in the neck!) and went for it at another auction recently. Mine is serial # 186324. Ok what did ya pay?
 
You and me both. Been looking at the 1849 Hartfords for years (and I mean years!) but unwilling to pay the asking price. Came very close at numerous auctions. Well fell into some money after some hard work (Executor, what a pain in the neck!) and went for it at another auction recently. Mine is serial # 186324. Ok what did ya pay?
I wasn't aware that these Hartford versions were more scarce than the others. As I have a Hartford 1851 Navy my thinking was that it'd be nice to have another Hartford to go with it. Call it dumb luck that it just so happens that it's a less common version.

I don't think it was a bargain price necessarily, but from prices I'd seen online in a lot of places it was several hundred less. I paid a few dollars more than the Whitney Navy.

Be sure to post pics of yours if you can!
 
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You and me both. Been looking at the 1849 Hartfords for years (and I mean years!) but unwilling to pay the asking price. Came very close at numerous auctions. Well fell into some money after some hard work (Executor, what a pain in the neck!) and went for it at another auction recently. Mine is serial # 186324. Ok what did ya pay?
Found yours online. Looks like a nice one too. Good price as well. Congratulations! Is the price shown with the buyers premium or without? Depending on what you paid for shipping we're very close in final price.
 
Good looking old Colt. Outstanding cylinder scene. Excellent pictures. I like the look of that one. A good production date along with the Hartford address makes it even better. Seems like I always pay a little on the high side, but for something you really want, it really doesn't matter. Life's too short and most things these days are not getting any cheaper. Thanks for showing. Enjoy it in good health.
 
I agree it looks very nice. From way over here where I'm looking, it seems to me that the grips have been revarnished. The scratches and dents appear to be UNDER the varnish layer. But understand: I am not questioning its authenticity at all. I think someone just wanted to make it look a little more shiny. Congratulations. I'd sure be proud to own it.
 
I agree it looks very nice. From way over here where I'm looking, it seems to me that the grips have been revarnished. The scratches and dents appear to be UNDER the varnish layer. But understand: I am not questioning its authenticity at all. I think someone just wanted to make it look a little more shiny. Congratulations. I'd sure be proud to own it.
I'll check when I get home. It could be the lighting and the fact that I didn't wipe the light coat of oil off the grips that the shipper put on it before shipping. Yes, hate that the screws are damaged, but as stated I wasn't expecting anything this nice nor this uncommon. I just thought it was a good example for the price. I'm happy with it. :smug:
 
Well, well, well…:smile coffee:... I just checked my '49s, and one of them is a close sister to yours, also in the 176XXX range:hug:. It also has the two line Hartford address. I never gave the address line any thought whatsoever, so your post about that is new and interesting information for me. Is there any way to quantify how much more valuable this version is? 5%, 10%, 20%, more?

If anyone has any additional information these two-line Hartford models, I certainly appreciate learning about these.

"Thumbs up" if you feel I am now obliged to post pics. :unsure::playfull:
 
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That's great! Glad my little bit of info was helpful. I ordered another book on them so once I get it it may shed more light into the Hartfords. I have no idea how to quantify any additional value they have being less common. I think that would depend on the market and to me it's always seemed that the "Baby Dragoons" were looked on as being more desirable despite them being more numerous. I guess it's that magic "Dragoon" name?!! :wink:

Yes, definitely post pics of yours when you can! Hoping Bayonet will too even though I saw them on the auction site. I think it's helpful for others who are researching, etc. which is why I try to give more info when I post as it might just help someone (as it did in this case for you! :thumbsup:)
 
I wasn't aware that these Hartford versions were more scarce than the others. As I have a Hartford 1851 Navy my thinking was that it'd be nice to have another Hartford to go with it. Call it dumb luck that it just so happens that it's a less common version.

I don't think it was a bargain price necessarily, but from prices I'd seen online in a lot of places it was several hundred less. I paid a few dollars more than the Whitney Navy.

Be sure to post pics of yours if you can!
Yup I too want the Hartford marked as in my 1951 Navy too. Serial # 101324. Must be from all the years of being a Connecticut Yankee (sadly no more).
 
Found yours online. Looks like a nice one too. Good price as well. Congratulations! Is the price shown with the buyers premium or without? Depending on what you paid for shipping we're very close in final price.
Then I'd say you did better than me. When all is said and done it was just under $1000. Same with my 1851 and my North Savage. My Remington 1858 and Colt 1860 just over $700. The other 3 ACW pistols just over $500. Of the 8 I have didn't pay over $1000 on any of them. 5 to 6 as memory serves me picked up at auction. Your Cylinder Scene is better than mine, Your brass looks better, Your grips look better but of course as mentioned they look polished up. My screws are much better than yours, I got you on that but thats minor. I'm happy and you appear too. There are 1849s out there a plenty to be had cheaply but so few Hartfords which of course cost more. That long search and for the price is over. That only took me over 25 years!
 

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