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Ummmm because Mobile didn't fall until April 12th 1865 after the battles of Spanish Fort and Fort Blakely. There is correspondence between Grant and Sherman, A J Smiths division would have launched a mobile campaign after Atlanta if it hadn't been diverted to Missouri in response to Prices Raid
Once the Lower Bay of Mobile is captured Mobile
Ummmm because Mobile didn't fall until April 12th 1865 after the battles of Spanish Fort and Fort Blakely. There is correspondence between Grant and Sherman, A J Smiths division would have launched a mobile campaign after Atlanta if it hadn't been diverted to Missouri in response to Prices Raid
The fall of Mobile in 1865 wasn't that important. Per battlefields.org once the battle of Mobile Bay concluded in August of 1864 with the destruction of the Confederate fleet and the capture of Confederate ports the port of Mobile was effectively blockaded.
Price's Raid accomplished nothing useful for the Confederacy. Price's Raid did help the Union cause by causing the death of many Confederate soldiers and guerrillas at the cost of no lost territory for the Union.
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Once the Lower Bay of Mobile is captured Mobile

The fall of Mobile in 1865 wasn't that important. Per battlefields.org once the battle of Mobile Bay concluded in August of 1864 with the destruction of the Confederate fleet and the capture of Confederate ports the port of Mobile was effectively blockaded.
Price's Raid accomplished nothing useful for the Confederacy. Price's Raid did help the Union cause by causing the death of many Confederate soldiers and guerrillas at the cost of no lost territory for the Union.
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your opinion is noted, however actual generals at the time noted the delay of the Mobile campaign as a consequence, thats fact.

It was a raid to create a distraction, it distracted AJ Smiths division which did effect operations elsewhere. It was a limited effect, but what did you expect of a raid? They were expected to do something, when there was little they could do, so they did a raid at least trying to fulfill doing something. I'm not aware of any alternative they could even do.
 
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Collection; Combat Studies Institute (CSI)
Title; Third War irregular warfare on the western border 1861-1865.
Author; Martin, James B.

Abstract; Foreword by Roderick M. Cox: In 1979, the Combat Studies Institute published the first of the Leavenworth Papers. The series afforded the CGSC Faculty the opportunity to present their scholarship to the professional military community seeking to learn about contemporary and doctrinal issues from historical events. After an eight year hiatus I am excited to bring back the Leavenworth Papers series to once again contribute to our Army’s education and leader development. That first publication of the Leavenworth Papers examined the evolution of US Army tactical doctrine since World War II. The research offered historical insights to senior leaders and doctrine writers charged with refocusing the Army toward a possible conventional conflict with Warsaw Pact military forces. In the 25 years that followed, the Leavenworth Papers series grew to include 22 studies that addressed historical cases that were likewise of tactical, doctrinal, and organizational interest to the Army. The subjects of these studies varied but the authors were intent on making history relevant to military professionals engaged in thinking about current and future challenges. This latest publication of the Leavenworth Papers marks the continuation of this storied series. Third War offers a lucid and well-researched analysis of irregular warfare during the American Civil War. Dr. Martin’s focus on insurgent operations in the western border region brings fresh insights to this area of study. Moreover, the history of insurgency in these western states offers a greater understanding of irregular warfare to those who may be tasked with mounting counterinsurgency operations in the not so distant future. CSI – The Past is Prologue!

Series; Leavenworth Papers
Publisher[ Fort Leavenworth, KS : Combat Studies Institute Press, US Army Combined Arms Center,
Date, Original; 2012
Date, Digital; 2012
Release Statement; Approved for public release; Distribution is unlimited
Repository; Combined Arms Research Library
Library; Combined Arms Research Library Digital Library

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Collection; Combat Studies Institute (CSI)
Title; Third War irregular warfare on the western border 1861-1865.
Author; Martin, James B.

Abstract; Foreword by Roderick M. Cox: In 1979, the Combat Studies Institute published the first of the Leavenworth Papers. The series afforded the CGSC Faculty the opportunity to present their scholarship to the professional military community seeking to learn about contemporary and doctrinal issues from historical events. After an eight year hiatus I am excited to bring back the Leavenworth Papers series to once again contribute to our Army’s education and leader development. That first publication of the Leavenworth Papers examined the evolution of US Army tactical doctrine since World War II. The research offered historical insights to senior leaders and doctrine writers charged with refocusing the Army toward a possible conventional conflict with Warsaw Pact military forces. In the 25 years that followed, the Leavenworth Papers series grew to include 22 studies that addressed historical cases that were likewise of tactical, doctrinal, and organizational interest to the Army. The subjects of these studies varied but the authors were intent on making history relevant to military professionals engaged in thinking about current and future challenges. This latest publication of the Leavenworth Papers marks the continuation of this storied series. Third War offers a lucid and well-researched analysis of irregular warfare during the American Civil War. Dr. Martin’s focus on insurgent operations in the western border region brings fresh insights to this area of study. Moreover, the history of insurgency in these western states offers a greater understanding of irregular warfare to those who may be tasked with mounting counterinsurgency operations in the not so distant future. CSI – The Past is Prologue!

Series; Leavenworth Papers
Publisher[ Fort Leavenworth, KS : Combat Studies Institute Press, US Army Combined Arms Center,
Date, Original; 2012
Date, Digital; 2012
Release Statement; Approved for public release; Distribution is unlimited
Repository; Combined Arms Research Library
Library; Combined Arms Research Library Digital Library

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Thanks for this excellent link. I have downloaded the PDF.
 


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