"Texas Rising"

[K Hale]

OK, I have to weigh in against the conspiracy theory and in favor of Occam's Razor. Houston did not go to the aid of the Alamo garrison because he did not have the manpower. If a thing costs $5000, throwing $500 at it is not going to get you that thing. It is a simple numbers game. Houston was not stupid. Moving east brought the potential fight closer to US territory and made it ever so much more likely that US forces would lend a hand. Which, if the Ft Jessup thing is true, is exactly what happened.

There's no evidence Houston and Crockett hated one another or that Houston would sacrifice the garrison to rid himself of a potential future political opponent. Bowie was also in the fort and he and Houston were tight.

 

[rpkennedy]

Does anybody really believe that 1st Lieutenant Patrick Swayze here is going to war in Mexico armed with nothing but a sword? Not even a grand-daddy colt?

He's got Private Daniel Day Lewis watching his back.

R

 

[Mr. King]

He's got Private Daniel Day Lewis watching his back.

R

Which Daniel Day-Lewis are we talking bout Nathaniel Poe, Bill the Butcher, or Lincoln?

 

[texaswildcat]

I saw the first two episodes and got a headache. I didn't see a disclaimer of "Based on a true story" or anything relating to historical relation, but this series is nonsense. Much of it is not historically accurate, mountains at the Alamo, landscape that is in no way resembling eastern Texas, and the ground is shown to be dusty and sand whereas it is suppose to be grass and the figures they portray are be fools. There was no real Yellow Rose of Texas that slept with Santa Anna, the Texas Rangers weren't involved in much of the Revolution, and the battles are not accurate either.

 

[ole]

Hey. I just watch it for entertainment. I don't really care about historical flubs. It's a gol durned presentation designed to entertaiin. Tomorrow, maybe, I'll get around to picking it apart.

There is entertainment and there is historical fact. When they feed us entertainment, I'll watch it. If they present it as historical fact, I'll staand in line to say not so.

"Texas Rising" is entertainment, loosley presented as fact.

 

[ole]

Don't know how all that got stuck in there. Can't delete it either.

As it is there, it is where my great grandfather was born in 1811. The bygetun is still there and what we would call a national park. Kinda neat having a national park made out of ggfather's home.

 

[18thVirginia]

Don't know how all that got stuck in there. Can't delete it either.

As it is there, it is where my great grandfather was born in 1811. The bygetun is still there and what we would call a national park. Kinda neat having a national park made out of ggfather's home.

Usually, if you close the post, then go back to edit and to "Upload a file" and open it, the little thumbnails will show up and then you can delete them.

 

[unionblue]

Strange isn't it that the real story is more entertaining than some "made-up" movie rendition.

hrobalabama,

You have stumbled upon a great truth, my fellow & wise forum member.

Would that you were in charge of programing at the History Channel with the power of script approval.

Sincerely,
Unionblue

 

[TinCan]

That's how I picture Texan revolutionaries... Pick a fight with the be-spectacled nerd in the middle... He'll eat your liver.

This is a perfect example of what I've always thought the Texan Army looked like, or, as my grandfather used to say, "You can't bring too many guns and knives to a Texas family reunion".

 

[alexjack]

It's good to know that Hollywood History annoys Americans as much as the rest of the world.

 

[Mr. King]

This is a perfect example of what I've always thought the Texan Army looked like, or, as my grandfather used to say, "You can't bring too many guns and knives to a Texas family reunion".

They really do look like hard men. If that is the kind of men that made up the 1st, 4th, and 5th Texas, then it is no wonder that Lee relied on them so much...

"TEXANS ALWAYS MOVE'EM!"

800 men charging into a Yankee division at the Wilderness. They stopped them cold.

 

[kepi]

I tried watching it again last night.
I give up.

 

[Mr. King]

I tried watching it again last night.
I give up.

I did too. The sprawling mountain ranges of Southeast Texas (that I seem to have missed in all my travels down there) kills me, as does the dry desert and high plains.
Here is the Guadalupe River in Victoria, TX:

And here is the scene of the Battle of San Jacinto:

No Desert... No Mountains.

It is also clear from the last picture that without the 14" guns of the USS Texas, Santa Anna may have won the day. She showed up right in the nick of time.

 

[hrobalabama]

hrobalabama,

You have stumbled upon a great truth, my fellow & wise forum member.

Would that you were in charge of programing at the History Channel with the power of script approval.

Sincerely,
Unionblue

I would never qualify because I have never been visited by an alien or have never seen a UFO.

 

[Greg Taylor]

After a quick read of this thread I have decided I will not waste my time watching this program. Even in the best of circumstances I do not have the attention span to spend 10 hours watching TV. I must admit that I don't have enough knowledge about the subject matter to adequately critique the accuracy of the "history" being presented. That being said, can anyone recommend to me the best single volume of written history available on the subject of Texas Rising?

 

[TinCan]

After a quick read of this thread I have decided I will not waste my time watching this program. Even in the best of circumstances I do not have the attention span to spend 10 hours watching TV. I must admit that I don't have enough knowledge about the subject matter to adequately critique the accuracy of the "history" being presented. That being said, can anyone recommend to me the best single volume of written history available on the subject of Texas Rising?

You might enjoy, Lone Star: A history of Texas and the Texans by T.R. Fehrenbach.

 

[Greg Taylor]

You might enjoy, Lone Star: A history of Texas and the Texans by T.R. Fehrenbach.

Thanks. I will check it out.

 

[K Hale]

After a quick read of this thread I have decided I will not waste my time watching this program. Even in the best of circumstances I do not have the attention span to spend 10 hours watching TV. I must admit that I don't have enough knowledge about the subject matter to adequately critique the accuracy of the "history" being presented. That being said, can anyone recommend to me the best single volume of written history available on the subject of Texas Rising?

Texian Iliad by Stephen Hardin.

 

[kepi]

I did too. The sprawling mountain ranges of Southeast Texas (that I seem to have missed in all my travels down there) kills me, as does the dry desert and high plains.
Here is the Guadalupe River in Victoria, TX:

And here is the scene of the Battle of San Jacinto:

No Desert... No Mountains.

It is also clear from the last picture that without the 14" guns of the USS Texas, Santa Anna may have won the day. She showed up right in the nick of time.

Did Santa Anna have a Submarine?

 

[Mr. King]

Did Santa Anna have a Submarine?

The USS Texas would have quickly turned anything in Santa Anna's "navy" into a submarine.