Spencer-Burnside 1865 serial number 28

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Seeking help to identify our Burnside Model 1865 Spencer carbine with serial number 28. This is an extremely low-numbered and rare example of the approximately 34,000 Model 1865 carbines made by the Burnside Rifle Company. The low serial number indicates it should be one of the very first units produced in 1865.

Information on this incredibly low serial number 28 carbine could place it in a unique category that we would like to highlight in our Burnside collection display.

Such low numbers suggest it might be:
  • A pre-production prototype: A very early example used for testing, inspection, or display purposes before mass production began.
  • A presentation piece: Low-serial-number guns were sometimes gifted to military officials, company executives, or government inspectors.
  • A sample model: One of the first carbines delivered to the U.S. government for approval.
The carbine is in VERY fine condition.
Only inspection marks are on the barrel under the forearm on either side of the second '28' serial number.
Large 'C' and a small 'A'.
VERY early placement of the 'Model 1865' on top of barrel, not forward of the receiver-breech imprint.

I will send pictures.


THNX
Steve
 
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Please help.
OK. I've loaded up the pictures of my Spencer-Burnside 1865 serial number 28 carbine.
Any ideas about the possible history of this very low serial number!
Any one?

I did find a 'v' on the upper breech and several 'm's inspection marks hidden on one side of the lower breech and a very large '33' on the other side of the lower. (pictured)
 
Please help.
OK. I've loaded up the pictures of my Spencer-Burnside 1865 serial number 28 carbine.
Any ideas about the possible history of this very low serial number!
Any one?

I did find a 'v' on the upper breech and several 'm's inspection marks hidden on one side of the lower breech and a very large '33' on the other side of the lower. (pictured)
I think the history of this particular Burnside manufactured Spencer carbine is that it was one of the earliest ones manufactured by Burnside.
 
It is not listed in the SRS. And since the Spencer made carbines and Burnside made carbines are not differentiated in the SRS, even if the serial number were listed you wouldn't know to which make carbine it belonged to.
Back to the drawing board I suppose
 
The C that indicated commended would not have been stamped on the underside of the barrel as no one would see it I believe
What you said makes sense, but that is the exact font as condemned C. Here is that same C on a hammer and a tumbler in my collection.

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found on 2 of my burnside 1865 spencer Springfield conversions.
any one ever see this 'snake eyes' rear sight screw?
the ladder is broken on this gun.
is there a tool to remove it?

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Any spanner wrench that fits those holes should work. Make sure u spay some lube and let it sit overnight to help loosen the gunk and corrosion. I'm sure it hasn't been unscrewed in a while.

That a very nice carbine from the author of this post. Amazing that the case hardening is still visible of the breech block. It's in great shape compared to most that I've seen.
 
So, have you seen this screw and set upon on a Spencer carbine/rifles before?
I though it might be special to just the Springfield post war conversion when they replaced the barrel.
thnx
steve
 

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