Collection Rifle markings

[GreyHandle]

I recently acquired another rifle for my collection.
Barnett British 1853 Enfield.

There's a lot marked on this rifle, there is some true history behind it, but other history in question.

first photo shows the name and unit of (supposedly) the second owner of this weapon, first owner being a Confederate soldier.

Second photo showing the maker of the rifle.

Third photo are three to four different markings and I have read through his site and others on some of these markers, but not all.

Forth photo looks to be a serial number? Very hard to make out and unsure how to read it or find a better way to see what it says.

Any help is helpful. I am trying to confirm as much as I can about this rifle

 

[Dbackfed29]

Not sure about the first owner because I did not see anything on the rifle musket, but the "second" owner served most of the war.

Frederick Bickle
Residence Philadelphia, PA; 33 years old.
Enlisted on 6/13/1861 at Philadelphia, PA as a Priv.
On 7/3/1861, he mustered into "C" Co. Pennsylvania 28th Infantry.
He re-enlisted on 12/24/1863.
He was Mustered Out on 7/18/1865 at Washington, DC
(Re-enlisted at Wauhatchie, TN)

 

[bayonet]

I'm sorry what makes you think this was CSA owned at one point? That last pic is not a serial # and I've never seen them serial #ed there, looks like letters as in a name. What did you pay for that and did you just accept the story that the seller sold you on? Some real good folks here can assist you soon. You should post more pics of the whole musket plus any other markings as on the buttstock or ramrod channel, etc.

 

[bayonet]

Not sure about the first owner because I did not see anything on the rifle musket, but the "second" owner served most of the war.

Frederick Bickle
Residence Philadelphia, PA; 33 years old.
Enlisted on 6/13/1861 at Philadelphia, PA as a Priv.
On 7/3/1861, he mustered into "C" Co. Pennsylvania 28th Infantry.
He re-enlisted on 12/24/1863.
He was Mustered Out on 7/18/1865 at Washington, DC
(Re-enlisted at Wauhatchie, TN)

He most likely added that after the war. Was the Penn 28th issued Enfields?

 

[Dbackfed29]

He most likely added that after the war. Was the Penn 28th issued Enfields?

I am not familiar with their arms but I would guess he was issued that during the conflict.

Is there any marking on the buttplate or adjacent to the trigger guard?

 

[bayonet]

I am not familiar with their arms but I would guess he was issued that during the conflict.

Is there any marking on the buttplate or adjacent to the trigger guard?

Maybe but maybe not. My GG Grandfathers outfit was issued Enfields but later switched to Springfields. It could of been a battlefield pickup, he could of obtained it after the war, etc. who knows. Someone on this website has the book or information on what most Union Regiments were issued. Forgot who or where he got it from. Maybe someone will jump in and supply that info.

 

[GreyHandle]

the person who dug up history on this said they had it for "decades". I have been tempted to reach out to them and get a better understanding of how they got this rifle and came to some of these conclusions.

The "facts" behind the rifle…

The CSA soldier who carried this weapon died during the battle of Gettysburg, Culp's Hill. CSA soldier died and the Union soldier, Bickle, picked it up and kept it as a battle trophy.


From what I have found, the Barnett rifles were issued to the CSA during the Civil War, however, there's still a lot of mixed information out there.

 

[JOHN42768]

Welcome, enjoy

 

[R. Porter]

Compared with the barrel and nipple protector, that lock plate looks pretty clean.

 

[Shootist]

I recently acquired another rifle for my collection.
Barnett British 1853 Enfield.

There's a lot marked on this rifle, there is some true history behind it, but other history in question.

first photo shows the name and unit of (supposedly) the second owner of this weapon, first owner being a Confederate soldier.

Second photo showing the maker of the rifle.

Third photo are three to four different markings and I have read through his site and others on some of these markers, but not all.

Forth photo looks to be a serial number? Very hard to make out and unsure how to read it or find a better way to see what it says.

Any help is helpful. I am trying to confirm as much as I can about this rifle

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I came across this information hope it helps, I'm guessing these enfields were sent to Penn from either direct purchase or more likely seized assets from a blockade runner;
28th Pennsylvania: On May 5, 1863, the regiment turned in their Enfield rifles with sword bayonets and were then issued new Springfield rifled muskets. (28th Pennsylvania, History of Pennsylvania Volunteers, vol. I, p. 430)

 

[bayonet]

I came across this information hope it helps, I'm guessing these enfields were sent to Penn from either direct purchase or more likely seized assets from a blockade runner;
28th Pennsylvania: On May 5, 1863, the regiment turned in their Enfield rifles with sword bayonets and were then issued new Springfield rifled muskets. (28th Pennsylvania, History of Pennsylvania Volunteers, vol. I, p. 430)

Then he should supply us with a pic of the whole musket. Depending on the model Enfield it may or may not have mounted a sword bayonet. Is the bayonet lug mounted on the front right sided of the barrel or is there just a front sight?

 

[bayonet]

Has anyone ever seen an issued musket bearing the Soldiers name and regiment before? Don't recall I ever had. Regiment yes, name no. Bet he added it after the war. Of course if it was him who did it.

 

[bayonet]

the person who dug up history on this said they had it for "decades". I have been tempted to reach out to them and get a better understanding of how they got this rifle and came to some of these conclusions.

The "facts" behind the rifle…

The CSA soldier who carried this weapon died during the battle of Gettysburg, Culp's Hill. CSA soldier died and the Union soldier, Bickle, picked it up and kept it as a battle trophy.


From what I have found, the Barnett rifles were issued to the CSA during the Civil War, however, there's still a lot of mixed information out there.

Mind if we ask how much you paid and where (as in a Dealer)?

 

[johan_steele]

Unless there is rock solid provenance behind an item buy the item not the story.

 

[Jeff in Ohio]

The marking of the unit as the 28 PVV, the middle V stands for "veteran" and this unit became a veteran volunteer unit at the end of 1863. I suspect this was done after the War when this was a memento and not a weapon in active service.