Next CWT tour

I would love for it to be during the summer, or early Spring, when I am off work. Maybe Ohio?Kentucky? Not a long drive for me. Wish we could do the re-enactment on the Kentucky Battlefield, but I've used up all my essential business days!
 
How about going further West before returning East?

I'd suggest the Missouri-Arkansas border region.

We'd have Wilson's Creek, Pea Ridge, and Prairie Grove all together in driving distance, all very, exceptionally well preserved battlefields that don't get enough love from the Civil War community, (the Grant-Lee obsessions of so many drives me bonkers, there were other leaders), and Springfield, Missouri and Fayetteville, Arkansas have grown so much to have excellent accommodations. As for the growth it is extremely bad, before to long Prairie Grove and Wilson's Creek will be completely surrounded by urban growth, so now, or next year rather would be a good time to see them before it's completely ruined.

Besides, they are real gems in comparison to battlefields in Virginia, Tennessee, or Mississippi. Not covered in hundreds of monuments, the ground is pretty close to how it was back then and one get a way better idea of how it looked than in Vicksburg or other places.

Just a thought....
 
The Picacho Pass Battlefield in Arizona! :bounce:

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How about going further West before returning East?

I'd suggest the Missouri-Arkansas border region.

We'd have Wilson's Creek, Pea Ridge, and Prairie Grove all together in driving distance, all very, exceptionally well preserved battlefields that don't get enough love from the Civil War community, (the Grant-Lee obsessions of so many drives me bonkers, there were other leaders), and Springfield, Missouri and Fayetteville, Arkansas have grown so much to have excellent accommodations. As for the growth it is extremely bad, before to long Prairie Grove and Wilson's Creek will be completely surrounded by urban growth, so now, or next year rather would be a good time to see them before it's completely ruined.

Besides, they are real gems in comparison to battlefields in Virginia, Tennessee, or Mississippi. Not covered in hundreds of monuments, the ground is pretty close to how it was back then and one get a way better idea of how it looked than in Vicksburg or other places.

Just a thought....
the cities each should include what they can offer. That way when members vote they can get a feel as to what would go on at each place.

I'd love a Missouri-Ark muster but currently WC is in a state of flux with renovations, Museum and library closed scheduled to reopen sometime in summer next yr.......if things go according to plan. Also the region has Carthage and Newtonia battlefields for those that stay longer, might be able to visit Andy Thomas studio if did carthage who does cw prints and did commissioned paintings for several T-M parks, notably PR

And wherever it is, its best to have nearby members on the ground to make arrangements ect. I live 5 hrs from WC, but if the renovations are done at some point, Id be willing to make some trips in camper or hotels to help make arrangements, but that also depends on my health becoming more stable without treatments.....Has chemo today, so far feeling fine, hoping having the extra week between treatments for the vacation will have let body recover from the last one more.

Edit- close up of a framed ink sketch print I got at andys studio of J O Shelby

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Savannah or Charleston I say this because lots of members live in these areas that cant travel 13 or more hours for a weekend trip plus there's lots of civil war sites in both cities.
1. Historical Houses
2. Hunley
3. Historical Forts
4. Historical cemeteries
5. Seafood

I think it could be fun for the group to experience the coast in Charleston you have Fort Moultrie and Fort Sumter. You also can visit Magnolia Cemetery where not only are the graves of Generals but also the crew of the Hunley as well as many other important leaders. At Fort Sumter we could visit where the first shots were fired. Also there are several cemeteries in Charleston around the old churches. Many only homes have tours you can visit the Rhett house. Charleston not only offers civil war history but also American Revolution and Pirate history. You also can visit rainbow row which offers some of the best looking architecture. There's also the battery where you can visit and get a great look at the sea. There's also a civil war museum in Charleston that offers a lot of history. Charleston is also one of the cities you visit that offers an Old Slave Mart Museum. If you get tired of walking you can take a carriage tour which is a lot of fun. I go to Charleston a lot since I live about 3 hrs away and have to say they offer some of the best seafood and accommodations. Charleston loves tourism and try to make people feel welcome. We could even have a lecture on Fort Wagner and the 54th Massachusetts. But that's not all you can also visit the Battle of Secessionville battlefield. We could have a lecture possibly from one of our member's who I understand was in the movie Glory who could tell us about his experience. Charleston also has one of the best ghost tours. Also in Charleston is the The Citadel which offers a lot of history.

I asked we consider Savannah Georgia a city rich in civil war history that still honors the past today. As we all know Savannah was the city General Sherman presented to President Lincoln as a Christmas gift in Savannah your able to visit many monuments on the squares. Also Savannah has many houses such as the Green - Meldrim House (Sherman's Headquarters), Sorrel Weed House (Moxley Sorrel), Mercer House, Andrew Low House. Also you have Fort Pulaski, Fort Jackson, Fort McAllister (is close), You can also go on ghost tours and Civil War Walks. If you enjoy shopping Savannah can offer that as well. Savannah also has Carriage rides to enjoy. Very good architecture can be observed in Savannah. Also two cemeteries named Bonaventure and North Laurel Grove contain many important Civil War Generals as well as important people of the war. We could have lectures from authors and knowledgeable people of the area. Savannah offers good restaurants and hotels as well as fine beds & breakfasts. I visit Savannah often and know they always appreciate tourism. Savannah was the home of many Generals. If you love Seafood Savannah can offer only it's best. Savannah also has a riverboat you can have dinner on as well as tours.

I would have no problem making arrangements for the group to attend either place both cities would be proud to show hospitality to it's fullest. We could show the finest the coast has to offer.
 
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I'd love a Missouri-Ark muster but currently WC is in a state of flux with renovations, Museum and library closed scheduled to reopen sometime in summer next yr.......if things go according to plan. Also the region has Carthage and Newtonia battlefields for those that stay longer, might be able to visit Andy Thomas studio if did carthage who does cw prints and did commissioned paintings for several T-M parks, notably PR

And wherever it is, its best to have nearby members on the ground to make arrangements ect. I live 5 hrs from WC, but if the renovations are done at some point, Id be willing to make some trips in camper or hotels to help make arrangements, but that also depends on my health becoming more stable without treatments.....Has chemo today, so far feeling fine, hoping having the extra week between treatments for the vacation will have let body recover from the last one more.

Edit- close up of a framed ink sketch print I got at andys studio of J O Shelby

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The Curator of Collections at Wilsons Creek told me the renovations were starting October 21, and would only run a couple of months. I can't remember the exact timeframe, but it wasn't a year, not even till summer. Real nice guy, I hope he remembered to take some pictures of a certain artifact I'd love to know more about, and replicate for myself.
 
The Curator of Collections at Wilsons Creek told me the renovations were starting October 21, and would only run a couple of months. I can't remember the exact timeframe, but it wasn't a year, not even till summer. Real nice guy, I hope he remembered to take some pictures of a certain artifact I'd love to know more about, and replicate for myself.
If it was alan I think is his name, he is a real nice guy, its easy to spend hrs in the library just talking with him. looking at things he'll pull out or look ups he will do for you.
 
Alright, I'm still exploring the region, and am new up yonder, but here's the best sells pitch I can make under the circumstances.

Alright, Wilson's Creek. It's in Springfield, Missouri a place chuck full of good places to stay, and good places to eat. The battle was one of the first, the commanding Union officer, General Lyons, died on the field and was a famous character for antics like the Camp Jackson Affair, and saying to Sterling Price and the Missouri Governor "Better that the blood of every man, woman, and child in Missouri should flow freely, than it leave the Union, (or something to that effect). It was also a battle that had folks like Franz Sigel. On top of those interesting factors history wise, most folks have completely forgotten it, think of it as an afterthought, and the battlefield is immaculately preserved, buildings and all, and after the renovation is done will have one of the most extensive collections in the museum anywhere. Including stuff from the east for those who have no interest in anything CW other than those theaters.

Pea Ridge, and Prairie Grove are similar except for the museum part, were both pivotal and neglected battles and all three are in driving distance of each other. 3 years of the CW all right there together

If everyone wanted to extend the CW tour of the region, a nice family has been completely renovating an old commercial hotel in Osceola, Missouri, (pretty good ways up north of Springfield), a town with a unique CW history where a sitting US Senator from Kansas led troops into the city and burned it to the ground. The hotel is special as its an 1870/80's structure that stayed in continuous operation till maybe ten years ago. It was a place that the famous Jesse James gang stayed at numerous times, and the rooms they stayed in will be open to stay in. Also President Truman numbered among famous guests. Its a bit far north for all driving CW battlefields in a day, and its getting into a region slim on full scale battlefields. But I'd be holding out if I didn't mention it.

Plus I've been trying to get access to a sight or two for metal detecting, who knows I might have that handy by next year.

For those completely in the dark or forgot, here's a thread I did several months back on my wanderings around up yonder- https://civilwartalk.com/threads/cw-stops-on-a-work-trip.160306/
 

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