Name this stubby cannon

[Mr. King]

It is supposed to be at Seven Pines. Is this a 24 pound Howitzer?

 

[AUG]

I've been wondering about this one myself, looks like some sort of howitzer. The photo was definitely taken at the Seven Pines battlefield as the Twin houses can be seen in the background, indicating it was taken around Casey's Redoubt.

According to the description at LoC, its a 32-pdr. field howitzer, however most of those I've seen used in the ACW had longer barrels and handles above the trunnions.

 

[Mr. King]

I've been wondering about this one myself, looks like some sort of howitzer. The photo was definitely taken at the Seven Pines battlefield as the Twin houses can be seen in the background, indicating it was taken around Casey's Redoubt.

According to the description at LoC, its a 32-pdr. field howitzer, however most of those I've seen used in the ACW had longer barrels and handles above the trunnions.

I bet it packed one heck of a wallup!

 

[AUG]

I bet it packed one heck of a wallup!

With the shorter barrel I bet the thing was a good canister thrower.

 

[John Winn]

I don't think I've ever seen a photo of one of those. 30-pd siege howitzer looks about right (definitely a howitzer and too heavy for field use; not sure about the caliber).

I think the only ones to have the handles above the trunions were the 1841 models but I ain't no expert so don't quote me on that.

Anybody got a copy of Hazlett et al. ?

 

[Patrick H]

Every time I see a "name anything" thread title, I'm sorely tempted to post a smart axxxx reply like "Phyllis". I almost always resist the temptation, except I'm admitting to the urge here. Seriously, though, it's an interesting looking piece of artillery and I will be glad to learn what it really is.

 

[mikekj]

Every time I see a "name anything" thread title, I'm sorely tempted to post a smart axxxx reply like "Phyllis".

I was thinking "STUMPY".

 

[redbob]

According to Ripley (p.50), it is a 8 inch Siege and Garrison Howitzer Model 1841.

 

[Mr. King]

According to Ripley (p.50), it is a 8 inch Siege and Garrison Howitzer Model 1841.

Thanks. Is that a 100% certainty?

I have no reason to doubt you, I just want to know if it's an educated guess or a factual declaration...

 

[M.Warren]

According to Ripley (p.50), it is a 8 inch Siege and Garrison Howitzer Model 1841.

I think Redbob just nailed it.

 

[Mr. King]

Good Job Redbob!

Good Job M.Warren!

 

[Booner]

Mr. Warren,
The color picture of all the cannon; where was that taken?

rgds,
Booner

 

[Lt.Drake]

Yep. 8 inch bore, 24 pounder, M1841

This site has all of the technical specs for the lovely little popgun.
https://markerhunter.wordpress.com/2010/01/01/8-inch-siege-howitzers-model-1841/

 

[redbob]

There is at least one in the Washington Navy Yard.

 

[M.Warren]

Mr. Warren,
The color picture of all the cannon; where was that taken?

rgds,
Booner

Sorry it took me so long to replay, Booner. I didn't get a notification that you'd posted here or anyone after you..
The picture was taken in St Augustine, Florida at Castillo de San Marcos.

https://markerhunter.wordpress.com/category/artillery/24pdr-howitzers/page/4/

 

[Jobe Holiday]

I watched Mr. Charlie Smithgall fire an original 8" Seige Howitzer in one of the N-SSA National Matches some years ago. Even with their required reduced powder charges it was unbelievably awesome! If I recall correctly, it cost him $56 per shot fired for the 12 round match.
J.

 

[Booner]

Thank you,
I was thinking perhaps it was West Point, NY. If I remember correctly, they too have a collection of cannon barrels on display

 

[M.Warren]

Thank you,
I was thinking perhaps it was West Point, NY. If I remember correctly, they too have a collection of cannon barrels on display

You're quite welcome. They may have cannon barrels on display there but I believe the site I linked mentioned that those in that picture were most of if not all of the known surviving models of the weapon. I'll have to go back and read it again. I know there were at least 3 versions of it so its possible that one of the early 19th century models is on display somewhere else. Good question.

 

[redbob]

Thank you,
I was thinking perhaps it was West Point, NY. If I remember correctly, they too have a collection of cannon barrels on display

You can't kick over a rock at West Point without hitting a cannon barrel, with the majority of them being well documented war trophies.

 

[ole]

I don't think I've ever seen a photo of one of those. 30-pd siege howitzer looks about right (definitely a howitzer and too heavy for field use; not sure about the caliber).

I think the only ones to have the handles above the trunions were the 1841 models but I ain't no expert so don't quote me on that.

Anybody got a copy of Hazlett et al. ?

The two houses are familiar. That, with McClellan's bringing seige guns on the trip does lend some plausibility.