More unknown generals

[GELongstreet]

Hey folks,

occasionally I´m stumbling over the old and beloved generalsandbrevets; being in a weird stage as one version is apparently updated but hosted in two different designs simultaneously while decaying at the same time; meanwhile the page has been archived in the original form but is decaying as well. I want to bring up the list of unknown generals that are not identified on the page yet, which most likely includes some brevet generals as well (we simply can´t know until identified, aye?). There are loads of smart people over here who dig through stuff and might by knowledge or by chance recognize someone. Some of them look quite familiar so if one of you knows that one of those is Bob, maybe because Bobs`s your uncle, please say so.

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[James N.]

#6 bears a slight resemblance to John Geary, especially the deep-set eyes, but I can't say for sure; the others???

Edit: it might help with #1 and #5 to see the whole uncropped photo to see who the others in them may be.

 

[GELongstreet]

I agree, both with a resemblance to Geary and the uncropped factor. Unfortunately I haven´t any as they´re directly linked, no higher resolutions either.

As for #1 I can´t see a wreath around the stars, though this could be because the colour and lighting as well, which appear as two 5-ray and one 6-ray; which likely makes him a Brigadier appointed in early 1861. But Confederate? State forces? Militia? Nobody knows (and he doesn´t tell).

 

[James N.]

For many of them the button spacing is the best reason to consider them generals. Regarding that, I'll mention an apparently contradictory photo I own of Union general John Newton I have posted here before. He's wearing the two stars of a major general on his shoulder straps but the two-button arrangement of a brigadier on his coat. I suspect this was taken immediately after his promotion in early 1863 to major general (which was never confirmed by the Senate, causing him to revert a year later back to his rank as brigadier) and before he could get a proper frock coat from his tailor, one he is wearing in subsequent photographs.

 

[Si Klegg]

No 4 looks a bit like John W Fuller, but have never seen a pic of him with that clarity before, so maybe not.

No 16 Maybe 'Bull' Sumner?

 

[Si Klegg]

No 7 General Dix?

 

[Mike Serpa]

Difficult to say the least. I'm not feeling Geary for #6. His beard was fuller, not as wavy. I could be wrong.

LOC

Maybe he's John Tourtellotte?

http://www.mankatofreepress.com/new...cle_fb70bb46-9517-5b03-9325-12b3207a889e.html

 

[BlueandGrayl]

There's Samuel Cooper the unknown but a high ranking Confederate general ironically from New York.

 

[GELongstreet]

Where do you see Cooper?

 

[BlueandGrayl]

Where do you see Cooper?

I wasn't asking for photos just mentioning the man. Was just simply talking about an unknown Confederate general named Samuel Cooper.

 

[GELongstreet]

Aye. Yes, Cooper was the Adjutant- and Inspector General of the Confederacy and as such its highest-ranking soldier until Lee in 1865. And in my opinion did a pretty good job in trying to organize the army of an untested nation with nightmarish political issues and during wartime.


And in case my original wording was unclear - I meant unknown with the meaning of not identified. So the pictures are here, now we just need the names ....

 

[BlueandGrayl]

Of course.

 

[Mike Serpa]

@Si Klegg #7 is John A. Dix! Here are photos of Fuller and Sumner.

John W. Fuller - LOC

Edwin Sumner - LOC

 

[Si Klegg]

@Si Klegg #7 is John A. Dix! Here are photos of Fuller and Sumner …

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Cheers Mike

Here's another wild stab in the dark … No5 … George Crockett Strong?

 

[Mike Serpa]

Cheers Mike

Here's another wild stab in the dark … No5 … George Crockett Strong?

It could be him. I can't say for sure.