Edged Wpns M1840 Heavy Cavalry Saber

[foudufoot]

Hi all, bought this 1846-dated Ames online and would appreciate your thoughts on condition. Thanks.

 

[toot]

a rely nice score!

 

[toot]

is it the one that got the NICK NAME OF OLD WRIST BREAKER?

 

[redbob]

is it the one that got the NICK NAME OF OLD WRIST BREAKER?

Yes

 

[Bonedaddy]

Excellent choice!! Fine looking saber and scabbard. Enjoy.

 

[UCVRelics]

Nice Piece. I say it has the NP Ames Cabotville block letter mark on the other side. Look and see what the pommel cap marks are and it should have an inspectors mark on the drag and have a P on the scabbard rings.

 

[Texas Johnny]

Very nice one, congrats!

 

[JOHN42768]

Great looking

 

[Patrick H]

I don't know anything about sabers, but yours looks fabulous to me. I'd be very proud if it were mine!

 

[James N.]

It's a really beautiful example; welcome to the forums!

 

[Cornpone and Molasses]

It's a beautiful example! Congrats and welcome to the forum!

 

[bobinwmass]

Very nice overall, though my first thought, and I may be wrong, was to wonder if there has been some rewrap work done on the grip. The wire does not appear to have as tight a twist as the originals I own and as pictured in Thillmann's book. Also, there appears to be small nicks in the brass where the wire goes under the pommel cap. This could happen when new pieces of rewrap wire are placed underneath. Pictures of the other side and the leather seam of the grip would be helpful.

 

[7th Mississippi Infantry]

Hi all, bought this 1846-dated Ames online and would appreciate your thoughts on condition. Thanks.

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Welcome.

Great photos !

Although I've never owned an original . . . I did purchase an exact replica of a 1885 British Cavalry sword/saber, (depending upon the strict definition of cavalry weapons).

I cant believe how heavy those blades actually were . . .

But again, great purchase !

 

[foudufoot]

Thank you all for the kind comments and warm welcome! The leather does seem amazingly well preserved for being that old suggesting a possible rewrap at some point, But it is very well done and I wonder if these were ever arsenal refurbished. I would think the handle and leather would be the most susceptible to wear and tear. I would like to know how that was done.

 

[toot]

congrat's on the score!

 

[UCVRelics]

possible rewrap at some point

Could you post a photo of the top of the pommel cap?

 

[James N.]

Welcome.

Great photos !

Although I've never owned an original . . . I did purchase an exact replica of a 1885 British Cavalry sword/saber, (depending upon the strict definition of cavalry weapons).

I cant believe how heavy those blades actually were . . .

But again, great purchase !

Don't judge the weight by the replicas until you've had the opportunity of hefting an original - despite looks, there can be a LOT of difference between the two!

 

[James N.]

Thank you all for the kind comments and warm welcome! The leather does seem amazingly well preserved for being that old suggesting a possible rewrap at some point, But it is very well done and I wonder if these were ever arsenal refurbished. I would think the handle and leather would be the most susceptible to wear and tear. I would like to know how that was done.

It's hard to tell from the photos, but even if it has been rewrapped I wouldn't worry too much about it. I meant to mention that the sword suspension system, though authentic, is postwar. While still a company grade officer in the U.S. Cavalry J.E.B. Stuart took out a patent for a suspension like this but it didn't go into production until later; I forget the dates but think it wasn't until the 1880's.

 

[7th Mississippi Infantry]

Don't judge the weight by the replicas until you've had the opportunity of hefting an original - despite looks, there can be a LOT of difference between the two!

Good point !

I had planned to chemically alter my replica to reflect the battlefield alterations made by the British Empire during the 2nd Boer War.

But that was too much of a chemistry project.
(above my ability)

Until then, it will look like a shiny parade sword from Sandhurst.

 

[foudufoot]

Could you post a photo of the top of the pommel cap?

Per your request.