Help Identifying Bowie knife or Short sword

[ncrebelobx]

Hello
I need help identifying the Bowie knives or short swords in 2 daguerreotype photos I have gotten from this website. The knives in both photos look the same with what I assume is a Walnut handle with what looks a washer, with the tang of the knife peened flat to hold in place.
I have looked online and not found any info on these knives
Need info on the knives or short swords because I am going to be selling soon on ebay 1/6th scale handmade civil war knives and bowies.

Thanks

 

[UCVRelics]

Great photos. It has always been very difficult to ID these type knives and D-Guards as most were made by local blacksmiths and unless they marked the makers are lost to time.

 

[JOHN42768]

Welcome, enjoy.

 

[Glen_C]

Books come to mind.

 

[ncrebelobx]

I am just guessing since the 3 knives look alike , must have been made by some Armory somewhere . The 2 brothers are from Warren County. NC , the other is unknown.

 

[mofederal]

Hello and welcome to the talk forum from Southeast Missouri located on the banks of the muddy Mississippi River.

 

[ncrebelobx]

Thanks to those to sent me a reply , I just Identified the knives in the photos. The knives are made in North Carolina , but where is unknown. 17 3/4 inch blade with 6 inch clip point , with brass cross guard and grip ferrule . Brass washer inlaid into the pommel

 

[captaindrew]

Nice images, welcome to the forum, look forward to seeing some of your work

 

[ncrebelobx]

Thank you Captain Dew.. Some of my work

 

[Patrick H]

Welcome! It's always amazing to me when I see the size of the knives some of these men carried (or at least used as props when they posed.) I cannot imagine wielding such a weapon in an actual fight. It would be big and intimidating, for sure, but I don't know how it might have fared against a more modern commando knife. There would have been very bloody forearm slashes on everyone involved, and that's for sure! There would have been fatal stabs or arterial slashes on one or more of the combatants, too. YIKES!

 

[ncrebelobx]

Pics 2.3. and 4 Brass guard bowie/ 1.5 and 6 pic of dug bowie from the internet , Brotherhood of arms figure Yank who switched sides

 

[7th Mississippi Infantry]

Hello @ncrebelobx, welcome aboard.

 

[Larryh86GT]

Welcome from WNY. Speak softly and carry a big blade.

 

[major bill]

Most soldiers found them not useful enough to carry on campaign. They are too big and to heavy. Same can be said of artillery swords carried by artillery men. Perhaps fun to have early in the War in camp, but not real practical on campaign.

 

[7thWisconsin]

I like the pic with the knife used to cut wood. I suspect that's what they were best for.