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O.R.-- SERIES I--VOLUME XXXVIII/5 [S# 76]
UNION CORRESPONDENCE, ORDERS, AND RETURNS RELATING TO OPERATIONS IN THE ATLANTA CAMPAIGN, FROM JULY 1, 1864, TO SEPTEMBER 8, 1864.(*)--#23
HDQRS. FIRST BRIG, SECOND Dry., 15TH ARMY CORPS,
Before Atlanta, Ga August 17, 1864.
Capt. G. LOFLAND,
Asst. Adjt. Gen., Second Div., Fifteenth Army Corps:
SIR: I have the honor to report that last evening intercourse was carried on between a portion of the pickets of my command and the enemy's opposite to them; papers, &c., were exchanged. Rufus Ready, Company F, Sixth Missouri Veteran Volunteers, went over to the enemy's rifle-pits for the purpose of making an exchange of some kind and was retained by them. I had no knowledge of the affair until this morning, when immediate measures were taken to keep the men in their proper places. It seems that the picket officer of this brigade permitted two men to meet a similar number midway between the enemy's line and our own for the purpose of exchanging papers. Afterwards advantage was taken of this precedent and meetings were had which ended in the retention of Ready by the enemy. Owing to the previous good service rendered by Captain Kendrick as brigade picket officer, I had deferred taking any active steps in the case, but think that I can assure you that nothing of the kind will occur again while I have the honor to command this brigade. Nothing further of note occurred on the line.
I am, Sir, very respectfully, your obedient servant,
THEO. JONES,
Colonel, Commanding.
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O.R.--SERIES I--VOLUME XLVI/3 [S# 97]
UNION CORRESPONDENCE, ORDERS, AND RETURNS RELATING TO OPERATIONS IN NORTHERN AND SOUTHEASTERN VIRGINIA, WEST VIRGINIA, MARYLAND, AND PENNSYLVANIA, FROM MARCH 16, 1865, TO JUNE 30, 1865.(*)--#10
HEADQUARTERS DEFENSES OF BERMUDA HUNDRED, VA.,
March 28, 1865.
General WEITZEL,
Commanding:
A man was captured on our right while exchanging papers. All commanders below me think he ought to be sent back. I do not think he ought to have been taken or that he ought to be sent back. It may prevent our getting information, but we can afford non-intercourse better than they, I think. I request your decision regarding the disposition to be made of the prisoner. I have no idea of what the practice has been, or whether there has been any practice concerning it.
GEO. L. HARTSUFF,
Major-General.
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Southern Historical Society Papers.
Vol. XXXIII. Richmond, Va., January-December. 1905
The Twelfth Alabama Infantry, Confederate States Army.
By ROBERT E. PARK, Late Captain Company E, 12th Alabama.

[This compilation toward a sketch of the history of this gallant regiment, its organization, associations, engagements, casualties, etc., consists of extracts from the War Diary of Robert Emory Park, late Captain of Company "F," with other materials contributed and collected by him.

A portion of the War and Prison Diary covering the period January 27, 1864, June 15, 1865, appeared as a serial in the Southern Historical Society Papers, Vols. I, II, III, (1876-7), at the request of the former Secretary of the Society, Rev. J. William Jones, D. D., who in prefatory note commends "its value in that it records the daily experience of the men who followed our distinguished leaders, and gives the impressions made upon the mind of an intelligent young soldier as he discharged his daily duty."
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MUSIC IN THE CAMP.
Our Confederate soldiers had their hours of rest and relaxation, and sometimes music of various kinds was interspersed with their recreation hours. There were a few fiddlers in the 12th Alabama, but the most noted and skillful one was Ben Smith of my company, an old bachelor, a quiet but true soldier, always ready for duty. He was a Georgian, like myself, in an Alabama regiment. His skill with the fiddle was unequalled. I have heard many violinists since the war, in the great orchestras of Thomas and Sousa and Creatore, but none of their number could equal great Ben Smith. He had gifts, and his knowledge of distinctive Southern music, peculiar to country life, some of which I have heard our slaves often play with exquisite taste and great gusto on our Georgia plantations, was wonderful. Among the choicest in Smith's repertoire were, "Hell broke loose in Georgia," "Billy in the Low Grounds," "Arkansas Traveller," "Dixie," "Money Musk,', "The Goose Hangs High," "When I saw Sweet Nellie Home," "My Old Kentucky Home," "When This Cruel War is Over," The Girl I Left Behind Me," etc. Crowds would gather around him and laugh and applaud and clap their hands, and joyously express their pleasure and appreciation.

Then sometimes sweet songs would float through the air from manly voices, and "Backward, Turn Backward, Oh Time in Your Flight," "All Quiet Along the Potomac To-night," "Dixie," "Lorena," "Marseillaise," etc., were among the songs sung. Occasionally, particularly on Sunday, we would have hymns, and the songs at church were sung with great sweetness and reverence. When encamped on the banks of the Rapidan, and on the Rappahannock, often we could hear snatches of songs from the encampment or pickets of the Federal soldiers on the opposite side of the river, and our men, satisfied that there was no danger from the hands of the enemy, would sing from our side, and more than once the sweet tones of "Home, Sweet Home," were sung by the opposing men, and echoed and re-echoed from bank to bank. This rare, unequalled song of John Howard Payne always recalled the tenderest recollections, and sweetest memories, and banished every evil thought.

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From Manassas to Appomattox (Longstreet)
Chapter XXXIX.—Again In Front Of Richmond.

Longstreet absent on Leave, nursing his Wounds—Hears of the Death of Cavalry Leader J. E. B. Stuart—Returns to Virginia—Assigned to Command on the North Side of James River—Affair on the Williamsburg Road—Lee's Apprehension of Grant's March into Rich-mond—Closing Scenes of the Campaign of 1864 about the Confederate Capital—General Benjamin F. Butler's Move against Fort Fisher—Remote Effects on the Situation in Virginia.

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These moves brought Sherman's army into remote bearing upon our army at Richmond, and as a matter of course it began to receive more careful attention from General Lee. In order to better guard our position on the north side, I ordered, in addition to the timber obstructions over White Oak Swamp, the roads leading around towards our left to be broken up by subsoil ploughs, so as to make greater delay of any movements in that direction during the winter rains, and wrote to ask General Lee if he could not. order the roads upon which General Grant would probably march against the Southside Railroad broken in the same way; also suggesting that the roads in Georgia upon which General Sherman was marching could be obstructed in this and other ways so as to delay and annoy his march, with the possibility that it might eventually be broken up.

The pickets along our lines were in more or less practice shooting at each other from their rifle-pits until I ordered it stopped on the north end of the line, as an annoyance, and not a legitimate part of war to carry on the shooting of sentinels on guard duty. The example was soon followed by the army on our front, so that the men on the picket lines became friendly, and afterwards came to mutual agreements to give the other side notice, in case of battle, in time for the pickets to get to their pits before the batteries could open on them. Before the winter was half gone the pickets established quite a bartering trade, giving tobacco for sugar and coffee.

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Recollections of a Confederate Staff Officer (Sorrel)
Chapter XXXIII—The Siege Of Petersburg, June, 1864, To March, 1865
Siege of Petersburg—Lines closely drawn—Attacks on Lee's right—Mahone's defense—Mining for an explosion—North side threatened—Troops sent—Capture of Battery Har-rison—Lee's attempt to retake it—The repulse—General Lee and General Pemberton—Attack on Fort Gilmer—Negroes in the van—General Lee's activity—His head-quarters—Enemy's fire on Petersburg—Meeting with Twelfth Virginia Infantry—Lee attacks in front of Rich-mond—Beats Kautz and takes his cannon—Kautz retreats to a fort—Lee attacks and is repulsed—Union troops armed with Spencer rifles—General Lee's quick eye for horses—Ewell's fall from his horse—Kershaw's Division sent to Valley—Destruction of barns and houses—Kershaw returns—Capture of a remount—The crater—Intercourse between pickets—Continuous firing—General E. P. Alexander's love of shooting.

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Of course the men on both sides behind the works, so close sometimes, got tired of "potting" at each other, and taking a rest became altogether too friendly. Firing would cease and individuals and small parties appear in front bartering and charting with the boys in blue.

Our tobacco was always good for coffee and a Northern paper. It got to be too familiar and led to desertions of our men. Their rations were of the poorest (one-half pound of bacon and three-quarters of a pound of cornmeal), their clothing and shoes worn and unfit for the field, and their work and duties of the hardest on our attenuated lines. Reliefs were few and far between. No wonder they sometimes weakened to better themselves, as they supposed, and stayed with the fat-jowled, well-clad, coddled up masses opposite them. But we had to stop the desertions at any price, so at night steady, continuous musketry firing was ordered, sweeping the glacis in front of our entrenchments. It cost a lot of lead and powder, but did something in holding back the weaklings in our command.

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Reminiscences Of The Civil War (Gordon)
Chapter IX--War By The Brave Against The Brave

The spirit of good-fellowship between Union and Confederate soldiers--Disappearance of personal hatred as the war progressed--The Union officer who attended a Confederate dance--American chivalry at Vicksburg--Trading between pickets on the Rappahannock--Inci-dents of the bravery of color-bearers on both sides--General Curtis's kindness--A dash for life cheered by the enemy.


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n 1861 a disorder had taken possession of the minds of the people in every section of the country. Internecine war, contagious, infectious, confluent, was spreading, and destined to continue spreading until nearly every home in the land was affected and hurt by it. This dreadful disease had about it some wonderful compensations. No one went through it from a high sense of duty without coming out of it a braver, a better, and a more consecrated man. It is.a great mistake to suppose that war necessarily demoralizes and makes obdurate those who wage it. Doubtless wars of conquest, for the sake of conquest, for the purpose of despoiling the vanquished and enriching the victors, and all wars inaugurated from unhallowed motives, do demoralize every man engaged in them, from the commanding general to the privates. But such was not the character of our Civil War.
On the contrary, it became a training-school for the development of an unselfish and exalted manhood, which increased in efficiency from its opening to its close. At the beginning there was personal antagonism and even bitterness felt by individual soldiers of the two armies toward each other. The very sight of the uniform of an opponent aroused some trace of anger. But this was all gone long before the conflict had ceased. It was supplanted by a brotherly sympathy. The spirit of Christianity swayed the hearts of many, and its benign influence was perhaps felt by the great majority of both armies. The Rev. Charles Lane, recently a member of the faculty of the Georgia Technological Institute, told me of a soldier who could easily have captured or shot his antagonist at night; but the religious devotion in which that foe at the moment was engaged shielded him from molestation, and he was left alone in communion with his God. That knightly soldier of the Confederacy, whose heart so promptly sympathized with his devout antagonist, was also a "soldier of the cross.

The same spirit was shown in the case of a Pennsylvania soldier who was attracted by the songs in a Confederate prayer-meeting, and, without the slightest fear of being detained or held as prisoner, attempted in broad daylight to cross over and join the Confederates in their worship. He was ordered back by his own pickets; but his officers appreciated his impulse and he was not subjected to the slightest punishment. In a European army he most likely would have been shot for attempted desertion, although he had made no effort whatever to conceal his movements or his purposes.

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It was not alone in the religious life of the army that these evidences of expanding brotherhood were exhibited. I should, perhaps, not exaggerate the number or importance of these evidences if I said that there were thousands of them which are perhaps the brightest illustrations and truest indices of the American soldier's character.

n 1896 an officer of the Union army told me the following story, which is but a counterpart of many which came under my own observation. A lieutenant of a Delaware regiment was officer of the picket-line on the banks of the Rappahannock. The pickets of the two armies were, as was usual at that time, very near each other and in almost constant communication. It was in midwinter and no movements of the armies were expected. The Confederate officer of pickets who was on duty on the opposite bank of the narrow stream asked the Union lieutenant if he would not come over after dark and go with him to a farm-house near the lines, where certain Confederates had invited the country girls to a dance. The Union officer hesitated, but the Confederate insisted, and promised to call for him in a boat after dark, and to lend him a suit of citizen's clothes, and pledged his honor as a soldier to see him safely back to his own side before daylight the next morning. The invitation was accepted, and at the appointed hour the Confederate's boat glided silently to the place of meeting on the opposite bank. The citizen's suit was a ludicrous fit, but it served its purpose. The Union soldier was introduced to the country girls as a new recruit just arrived in camp. He enjoyed the dance, and, returning with his Confederate escort, was safely landed in his own lines before daylight. Had the long roll of the kettledrum summoned the armies to battle on that same morning, both these officers would have been found in the lines under hostile ensigns, fighting each other in deadly conflict.

In Kansas City recently an ex-Confederate recorded his name upon the hotel register. Mr. James Locke, of Company E, One Hundredth Pennsylvania Volunteers, was in the same hotel, and observed the name on the register. Locke had lost a leg at the second Manassas, and a Confederate had carried him out of the railroad cut in which he lay suffering, and had ministered to his wants as best he could. Locke had asked this soldier in gray before leaving him to write his name in his (Locke's) war diary. The Confederate did so, and was then compelled to hurry forward with his command. He had, however, in the spirit of a true soldier, provided the suffering Pennsylvanian with a canteen of water before he left him. There was nothing unmanly in the moistened eyes of these brave men when they so unexpectedly and after so many years met in Kansas City for the first time since they parted at the railroad cut on a Virginia battle-field.


This spirit of American chivalry was exhibited almost everywhere on the wonderful retreat of Joseph E. Johnston before General Sherman from Dalton to Atlanta. At Resaca, at Kennesaw, along the banks of Peachtree Creek, and around Atlanta, between the lines that encircled the doomed city, the same friendly greetings were heard between the pickets, and the same evidences of comradeship shown before the battles began and after they had ended. In the trenches around Vicksburg, and during its long and terrible bombardment, the men in the outer lines would call to each other to stop firing for a while, that they "wanted to get out into fresh air!" The call was always heeded, and both sides poured out of their bomb-proofs like rats from their holes when the cats are away. And whenever an order came to open fire, or the time had expired, they would call: "Hello, there, Johnnie," or "Hello, there, Yank," as the case might be. "Get into your holes now; we are going to shoot."

What could have been more touchingly beautiful than that scene on the Rapidan when, in the April twilight, a great band in the Union army suddenly broke the stillness with the loved strains of "Hail Columbia, Happy Land," calling from the Union camps huzzas that rolled like reverberating thunders on the evening air. Then from the opposite hills and from Confederate bands the answer came in the thrilling strains of "Dixie." As it always does and perhaps always will, "Dixie" brought from Southern throats an impassioned response. Then, as if inspired from above, came the union of both in that immortal anthem, "Home, Sweet Home." The solemn and swelling cadence of these old familiar notes was caught by both armies, and their joint and loud acclamations made the climax of one of the most inspiring scenes ever
witnessed in war
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The talking and joking, the trading and "swapping," between the pickets and between the lines became so prevalent before the war closed as to cause no comment and attract no special attention, except when the intercourse led the commanding officers to apprehend that important information might be unwittingly imparted to the foe. On the Rapidan and Rappahannock, into which the former emptied, this rollicking sort of intercourse would have been alarming in its intimacy but for the perfect confidence which the officers of both sides had in their men. Even officers on the opposite banks of this narrow stream would now and then declare a truce among themselves, in order that they might bathe in the little river. Where the water was shallow they would wade in and meet each other in the center and shake hands, and "swap" newspapers and barter Southern tobacco for Yankee coffee. Where the water was deep, so that they could not wade in and "swap," they sent the articles of traffic across in miniature boats, laden on the Southern shore with tobacco and sailed across to the Union side. These little boats were unloaded by the Union soldiers, reloaded, and sent back with Yankee coffee for the Confederates. This extraordinary international commerce was carried on to such an extent that the commanders of both armies concluded it was best to stop it. General Lee sent for me on one occasion and instructed me to break up the traffic. Riding along the lines, as I came suddenly and unexpectedly around the point of a hill upon one of the Confederate posts, I discovered an unusual commotion and confusion. I asked: "What's the matter here? What is all this confusion about?"

"Nothing at all, sir. It's all right here, general."

I expressed some doubt about its being all right, when the spokesman for the squad attempted to concoct some absurd explanation as to their effort to get ready to "present arms" to me as I came up. Of course I was satisfied that this was not true; but I could see no evidence of serious irregularity. As I started, however, I looked back and discovered the high weeds on the bank shaking, and wheeling my horse, I asked:
"What's the matter with those weeds ?"

"Nothing at all, sir," he declared; but I ordered him to break the weeds down. There I found a soldier almost naked. I asked:

"Where do you belong?"

"Over yonder," he replied, pointing to the Union army on the other side.

"And what are you doing here, sir ?"

"Well, general," he said, "I didn't think it was any harm to come over and see the boys just a little while."

"What boys ?" I asked.

"These Johnnies," he said.

"Don't you know, sir, that there is war going on in this country ?" I asked.

"Yes, general," he replied; "but we are not fighting now."

The fact that a battle was not then in progress given as an excuse for social visiting between opposing lines was so absurd that it overturned my equilibrium for the moment. If my men could have known my thoughts they would have been as much amused at my discomfiture as I was at the Union visitor's reasoning. An almost irresistible impulse to laugh outright was overcome, however, by the necessity for maintaining my official dignity. My instructions from General Lee had been to break up that traffic and intercourse; and the slightest lowering of my official crest would have been fatal to my mission. I therefore assumed the sternest aspect possible under the circumstances, and ordered the Union soldier to stand up; and I said to him: "I am going to teach you, sir, that we are at war. You have no rights here except as prisoner of war, and I am going to have you marched to Richmond, and put you in prison."

This terrible threat brought my own men quickly and vigorously to his defense, and they exclaimed: "Wait a minute, general. Don't send this man to prison. We invited him over here, and we promised to protect him, and if you send him away it will just ruin our honor."

The object of my threat had been accomplished. I had badly frightened the Northern guest and his Southern hosts. Turning to the scantily clad visitor, I said:

"Now, sir, if I permit you to go back to your own side, will you solemnly promise me, on the honor of a soldier, that--" But without waiting for me to finish my sentence, and with an emphatic "Yes, sir," he leaped like a bullfrog into the river and swam back.

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I sincerely pity the man who calls himself an American and who does not find in these exhibitions of American manhood on either side, a stimulant to his pride as an American citizen and a support to his confidence in the American Republic. The true patriot must necessarily feel a glow of sincere pride in the record of the Republic's great and heroic sons from every section. There is no inconsistency, however, between a special affection for one's birthplace and a general love for one's entire country. There is nothing truer than that the love of the home is the unit, and that the sum of these units is aggregated patriotism. What would be thought of the patriotism of a son of New England or of the Old Dominion whose heart did not warm at the mention of Plymouth Rock or of Jamestown ?
 
Southern Historical Society Papers
Volume XI. Richmond. Va., November, 1883. No. 11.
Reminiscences of the Siege of Vicksburg.

By Major J.T. Hogane, of the Engineer Corps.
PAPER NO. 3 (CONCLUSION).
Nearly every evening about dusk there would be a cessation of firing by the sharp shooters. Then the banter of the men on both sides would commence, and perhaps truces were made to meet outside of the works. One moonlight night I asked who the officer was in front, and after telling me his name, he invited me to a conference. We met in a ravine about one hundred feet from our line and talked faster in a given time than four men could have talked under less exciting conditions. This officer whose kindness I acknowledge, tendered me his notebook to write a letter to my wife, who over two years before, I had left in St. Louis. She answered it by way of a "flag of truce" and I got her letter in Richmond afterwards. Johnny Reb and Jonathan Fed had many a set to, to see who could say the funniest things, or who could outwit the other in a trade, which generally ended by a warning cry, "going to shoot, Johnny."

There never was an instance during the whole siege that advantage was taken by either side during these short truces, made extra official by the men themselves. From day to day the privates on the outside excited our curiosity by hints that in a short time they would blow the very foundations of the city into the air. They made it an open secret that when they got ready, two hundred cannon, opened on us, all at the same time, would make "Rome howl," at which the insides sneered.

The night before the guns opened -- for it was no idle boast our opponents had been making -- I was engaged raising the epaulement of a twenty four pound smooth bore, with a detail worn out to the last stage of usefulness. One boy laid down on the ground, telling his sergeant that he could not lift his spade, much less dirt. The sergeant reported him to me as insubordinate, so I went to see what was the matter. The boy frankly said he was starving, and his pale face, seen in the light of the moon, told the truth more emphatically than his voice. I thought of that boy's mother, away off in the hills of Alabama, that perhaps at that moment was praying for the life of her child, whose right foot edged the grave, and that was awaiting the order to forward march from the King of the shadowland. I had a hard biscuit in my pocket that had lain there for the coming hour, when we were to cut our way out. I placed it in his hand. He looked at it, and at me, then burst into a flood of tears, and whispered faintly, "Is this for me?" I never saw him more, but I hope that fair faced boy reached home to give the warm gratituted of his heart to the mother he spoke so lovingly about. Before we got through raising the battery a round of shots from artillery drove us to the protection of the fortification we had been strengthening, and then for hours the connonanding was terrific in its energy. Over the work we were in,shell burst in rapid succession, with a horrid din and concussion of the air that seemed to tear the breath our of the hearers.

It did not prevent some of the men, who had been working, from going to sleep. They lay back, on the hard plank floor, on which the gun carriage traversed, and, with a great look of "ennui," closed their eyes, heedless of danger, glory, or any other sentiment other than that of repose. The fusilade of the heavy guns could be traced all around the fire environed force of the south, and by an odd association of ideas in the rise and fall of sound, brought to mind the regular chimes of the church bells of a city. Old Bones, a steed that I had tied to a six pound enfilading field piece, shook his tail at the splintering of the shells as Tam O'Shanter's mare did at the Wharlocks. After an hour's waiting for the fire to cease, I cut his cogitations short by mounting him and defying sharp shooters and shell, making for camp, to save my share of mule soup and peabread. My camp was in the grounds of a castellated building on the south side of the city, a real place of security from all the cannonading going on. Under the shelter of a raised earth terrace my tent was an ark of refuge. A pallet and blanket, a piece of mulesteak, a drink of molasses beer, sour as vinegar, some pea meal, flour bread that could easily have been palmed off as first class bird lime, and five or six hours of dreamless sleep, "tired nature's sweet restorer;" a report in person made to engineer headquarters in the afternoon, a report to Major General Smith, commanding the line at 5 o'clock P.M., an active duty laying out and rebuilding earthworks destroyed during the day by the enemy, and it will be a fair representation of the daily routine of the engineer's work, to whose judgment and skill the efficiency of the earthworks of Vicksburg were entrusted. The narrow escapes they made, the stratagems of war they invented to meet existing difficulties, the strong spell that the word duty wrought in them to replace weariness, sickness, and a desire for death, rather than the life of the moment, does not strike the enthusiasm of the masses like the brilliant charge into the vortex of death that a Federal officer made when he leaped, standard in hand, on to the walls of the battery in which so many Missourians were blown up. Yet the 15,000 men who lay secure behind the dirt lines, and the still greater number who lay outside, felt the result of the eternal vigilance of the few scientific men who, in season and out of season gave unity and design to the labors of the noble soldiers whose rest was little in that unfortunate city. A few days before the termination of the attack upon Vicksburg the vanity of a Major of artillery who because of seniority was the chief of artillery on the line, caused me a narrow escape from the "sudden death" that the church reminds us every Sunday to pray against. He had sent a dispatch to Major General Smith that the enemy was making a breach in the works, and asking that the engineer officer report to the works at once. It was sent to me by General Smith, with a request to go. As I had been on duty sixteen hours I refused, but Colonel Lockett persuaded me to go. Just above the courthouse on the river road I was shot in the thigh, but fortunately having the means at hand and the minnie ball having touched no bone or artery I had the wound dressed and rode on, reporting to Brigadier General Vaughn at Fort Hill. There was nothing the matter with the works, so having plenty of time both General Vaughn and I expended an incalculable number of hard words on that soft artillery officer. He got the rheumatism, dug him a cave, and went to studying McMahon's fortification for the rest of the siege. The night preceding the surrender was the darkest I ever saw. I had just reported for duty in the rear of the works near the river; depressed in feelings, miserable and weak, an orderly handed me a dispatch and at the same time informed me that the Union soldiers were running mines under the stockade. He also told me that the Lieutenant of engineers placed there had been badly wounded. The post of danger being there, I literally felt my way over the sleeping soldiers, giving and taking impatient exclamations, until I reached the stockade. Silently I went over the breastworks to find out the direction and extent of the work the enemy was engaged in prosecuting. On my knees, and with ear to the ground I listened for the sappers and miners as they, mole like were running passages under the breastworks.

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The whole siege was a farce so far as it meant a bloody and determined defense of the fortified position of Vicksburg. No large supplies of provisions had been accumulated inside of the works, munitions of war were scarce, and when Grant gave Pemberton Hobson's choice of surrendering on the 4th of July or a fight, he put on his little airs, but threw up the sponge on the natal day of the republic. Taking Colonel Scott's advice I did not fire the mine, but went down to the lower city. On my way I heard the rapid gallop of horses, and on looking behind me saw General Grant and staff, and at the tail end of the staff Fred. Grant in his shirt sleeves. General Grant's dark face, with its short, black stubby beard, gave me the impression at the time that it was the face of a just but determined man. The moment I saw it I felt that our men would be treated well, that the mean, petty spite of the non combatant leaders of the North would have no influence with him. Subsequent events proved the quality of the man, for he ordered a distribution of provisions without stint or measure. Sacks of Lincoln coffee were given to the boys -- a peace measure -- for it was a piece of pure good luck to get a quantity of the Arabian bean. As he had 22,000 pounds of Confederate bacon to draw on, he also gave us bacon to butter our flour bread with. So, for this and other reasons, Grant was praised among the Confederates in a quiet way. It took about a week to fix up our parole papers, when we bid farewell to Vicksburg, with Jackson as our objective point. Just beyond Pearl river, General Pemberton informed me that he had just got complete returns of the killed and wounded. Six hundred killed sunk into my mind but the number wounded I don't remember. How many died in the hospital under Yankee care he never knew. They had better have died on a field of victory, like Wolf on the plains of Abraham, with the ecstatic feeling, "They run" sounding to their dying senses.

It would be ill grace if, before finishing the story of Vicksburg's siege, warm praise was not given to the heroic brave men who endured the hardship of the fifty eight day and night fight; the desperate assaults made by the Federals on the slight entrenchment behind which they couched, half starved, yet full of the fire of battle. This hurling of iron balls from the throats of 200 cannon, and filling the air with minnie balls aimed with deadly effect against these men who occupied the sand rifle pits and lunettes of Vicksburg, attested both the power of the paternal government attacking and the solid bravery of the defensive force. The thunder of cannon, the sharp shriek of the rifle's leaden messenger, the threats of death that the thirteen inch bombs continually kept up as they coursed in curves through the air, the spattering of shrapnell, the quick explosion for shells tearing and crushing through the houses, the sudden death of a companion, the pale, hunger pinched faces around them, had no effect on the nerves of the men who talked openly, "No surrender." Hunger weakened them, sleepless nights and watchful days were their portion, rats, peameal, mulesteak, and old horse their food, yet they ever responded to the call of duty either to fight or for fatigue service. It was amusing to hear the trades proposed by the outside to the inside, or by the rebs to their fat brethren who were so jealously keeping them from going astray. The leading articles of barter were coffee for tobacco, newspaper for newspaper, but there was a great deal more talk than trade, and the chaffing generally ended in assertions on the hand that they were coming over soon, and an invitation on the other hand to come to dinner and they would have a fresh mule cooked. Declining with thanks, the boys in blue went to their camp to full meals, to camp stories of flood and field, to tender readings of letters from wife, family or sweetheart, and, owing to numbers, light fighting when put on duty.

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Fascinating Fact: When stationed at Fredricksburg in the winter of 1862, pickets across the Rappahannock River from each other made little sailboats that they floated back and forth with items to trade. "
http://civilwar.bluegrass.net/SoldiersLife/unofficialtruces.html

Just love these. Oh my.

It gets even better - they hosted one another in camp for supper and a drink on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. On the latter, a Union duty officer finding Confederates in his camp had them all arrested and taken prisoner. The mortified hosts appealed to General Meade who ordered the prisoners released and put back across the river.
 
It gets even better - they hosted one another in camp for supper and a drink on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. On the latter, a Union duty officer finding Confederates in his camp had them all arrested and taken prisoner. The mortified hosts appealed to General Meade who ordered the prisoners released and put back across the river.
It makes you wonder why these guys could turn it off and on -- perhaps an expression of "it's not personal."
Never looked into the eyes of those that that died or were wounded by my hand,-- it must be an extremely painful experience.
 
Southern Historical Society Papers
Volume XI. Richmond. Va., November, 1883. No. 11.
Reminiscences of the Siege of Vicksburg.

By Major J.T. Hogane, of the Engineer Corps.
PAPER NO. 3 (CONCLUSION).
Nearly every evening about dusk there would be a cessation of firing by the sharp shooters. Then the banter of the men on both sides would commence, and perhaps truces were made to meet outside of the works. One moonlight night I asked who the officer was in front, and after telling me his name, he invited me to a conference. We met in a ravine about one hundred feet from our line and talked faster in a given time than four men could have talked under less exciting conditions. This officer whose kindness I acknowledge, tendered me his notebook to write a letter to my wife, who over two years before, I had left in St. Louis. She answered it by way of a "flag of truce" and I got her letter in Richmond afterwards. Johnny Reb and Jonathan Fed had many a set to, to see who could say the funniest things, or who could outwit the other in a trade, which generally ended by a warning cry, "going to shoot, Johnny."

There never was an instance during the whole siege that advantage was taken by either side during these short truces, made extra official by the men themselves. From day to day the privates on the outside excited our curiosity by hints that in a short time they would blow the very foundations of the city into the air. They made it an open secret that when they got ready, two hundred cannon, opened on us, all at the same time, would make "Rome howl," at which the insides sneered.

The night before the guns opened -- for it was no idle boast our opponents had been making -- I was engaged raising the epaulement of a twenty four pound smooth bore, with a detail worn out to the last stage of usefulness. One boy laid down on the ground, telling his sergeant that he could not lift his spade, much less dirt. The sergeant reported him to me as insubordinate, so I went to see what was the matter. The boy frankly said he was starving, and his pale face, seen in the light of the moon, told the truth more emphatically than his voice. I thought of that boy's mother, away off in the hills of Alabama, that perhaps at that moment was praying for the life of her child, whose right foot edged the grave, and that was awaiting the order to forward march from the King of the shadowland. I had a hard biscuit in my pocket that had lain there for the coming hour, when we were to cut our way out. I placed it in his hand. He looked at it, and at me, then burst into a flood of tears, and whispered faintly, "Is this for me?" I never saw him more, but I hope that fair faced boy reached home to give the warm gratituted of his heart to the mother he spoke so lovingly about. Before we got through raising the battery a round of shots from artillery drove us to the protection of the fortification we had been strengthening, and then for hours the connonanding was terrific in its energy. Over the work we were in,shell burst in rapid succession, with a horrid din and concussion of the air that seemed to tear the breath our of the hearers.

It did not prevent some of the men, who had been working, from going to sleep. They lay back, on the hard plank floor, on which the gun carriage traversed, and, with a great look of "ennui," closed their eyes, heedless of danger, glory, or any other sentiment other than that of repose. The fusilade of the heavy guns could be traced all around the fire environed force of the south, and by an odd association of ideas in the rise and fall of sound, brought to mind the regular chimes of the church bells of a city. Old Bones, a steed that I had tied to a six pound enfilading field piece, shook his tail at the splintering of the shells as Tam O'Shanter's mare did at the Wharlocks. After an hour's waiting for the fire to cease, I cut his cogitations short by mounting him and defying sharp shooters and shell, making for camp, to save my share of mule soup and peabread. My camp was in the grounds of a castellated building on the south side of the city, a real place of security from all the cannonading going on. Under the shelter of a raised earth terrace my tent was an ark of refuge. A pallet and blanket, a piece of mulesteak, a drink of molasses beer, sour as vinegar, some pea meal, flour bread that could easily have been palmed off as first class bird lime, and five or six hours of dreamless sleep, "tired nature's sweet restorer;" a report in person made to engineer headquarters in the afternoon, a report to Major General Smith, commanding the line at 5 o'clock P.M., an active duty laying out and rebuilding earthworks destroyed during the day by the enemy, and it will be a fair representation of the daily routine of the engineer's work, to whose judgment and skill the efficiency of the earthworks of Vicksburg were entrusted. The narrow escapes they made, the stratagems of war they invented to meet existing difficulties, the strong spell that the word duty wrought in them to replace weariness, sickness, and a desire for death, rather than the life of the moment, does not strike the enthusiasm of the masses like the brilliant charge into the vortex of death that a Federal officer made when he leaped, standard in hand, on to the walls of the battery in which so many Missourians were blown up. Yet the 15,000 men who lay secure behind the dirt lines, and the still greater number who lay outside, felt the result of the eternal vigilance of the few scientific men who, in season and out of season gave unity and design to the labors of the noble soldiers whose rest was little in that unfortunate city. A few days before the termination of the attack upon Vicksburg the vanity of a Major of artillery who because of seniority was the chief of artillery on the line, caused me a narrow escape from the "sudden death" that the church reminds us every Sunday to pray against. He had sent a dispatch to Major General Smith that the enemy was making a breach in the works, and asking that the engineer officer report to the works at once. It was sent to me by General Smith, with a request to go. As I had been on duty sixteen hours I refused, but Colonel Lockett persuaded me to go. Just above the courthouse on the river road I was shot in the thigh, but fortunately having the means at hand and the minnie ball having touched no bone or artery I had the wound dressed and rode on, reporting to Brigadier General Vaughn at Fort Hill. There was nothing the matter with the works, so having plenty of time both General Vaughn and I expended an incalculable number of hard words on that soft artillery officer. He got the rheumatism, dug him a cave, and went to studying McMahon's fortification for the rest of the siege. The night preceding the surrender was the darkest I ever saw. I had just reported for duty in the rear of the works near the river; depressed in feelings, miserable and weak, an orderly handed me a dispatch and at the same time informed me that the Union soldiers were running mines under the stockade. He also told me that the Lieutenant of engineers placed there had been badly wounded. The post of danger being there, I literally felt my way over the sleeping soldiers, giving and taking impatient exclamations, until I reached the stockade. Silently I went over the breastworks to find out the direction and extent of the work the enemy was engaged in prosecuting. On my knees, and with ear to the ground I listened for the sappers and miners as they, mole like were running passages under the breastworks.

[extensive excerpt]

The whole siege was a farce so far as it meant a bloody and determined defense of the fortified position of Vicksburg. No large supplies of provisions had been accumulated inside of the works, munitions of war were scarce, and when Grant gave Pemberton Hobson's choice of surrendering on the 4th of July or a fight, he put on his little airs, but threw up the sponge on the natal day of the republic. Taking Colonel Scott's advice I did not fire the mine, but went down to the lower city. On my way I heard the rapid gallop of horses, and on looking behind me saw General Grant and staff, and at the tail end of the staff Fred. Grant in his shirt sleeves. General Grant's dark face, with its short, black stubby beard, gave me the impression at the time that it was the face of a just but determined man. The moment I saw it I felt that our men would be treated well, that the mean, petty spite of the non combatant leaders of the North would have no influence with him. Subsequent events proved the quality of the man, for he ordered a distribution of provisions without stint or measure. Sacks of Lincoln coffee were given to the boys -- a peace measure -- for it was a piece of pure good luck to get a quantity of the Arabian bean. As he had 22,000 pounds of Confederate bacon to draw on, he also gave us bacon to butter our flour bread with. So, for this and other reasons, Grant was praised among the Confederates in a quiet way. It took about a week to fix up our parole papers, when we bid farewell to Vicksburg, with Jackson as our objective point. Just beyond Pearl river, General Pemberton informed me that he had just got complete returns of the killed and wounded. Six hundred killed sunk into my mind but the number wounded I don't remember. How many died in the hospital under Yankee care he never knew. They had better have died on a field of victory, like Wolf on the plains of Abraham, with the ecstatic feeling, "They run" sounding to their dying senses.

It would be ill grace if, before finishing the story of Vicksburg's siege, warm praise was not given to the heroic brave men who endured the hardship of the fifty eight day and night fight; the desperate assaults made by the Federals on the slight entrenchment behind which they couched, half starved, yet full of the fire of battle. This hurling of iron balls from the throats of 200 cannon, and filling the air with minnie balls aimed with deadly effect against these men who occupied the sand rifle pits and lunettes of Vicksburg, attested both the power of the paternal government attacking and the solid bravery of the defensive force. The thunder of cannon, the sharp shriek of the rifle's leaden messenger, the threats of death that the thirteen inch bombs continually kept up as they coursed in curves through the air, the spattering of shrapnell, the quick explosion for shells tearing and crushing through the houses, the sudden death of a companion, the pale, hunger pinched faces around them, had no effect on the nerves of the men who talked openly, "No surrender." Hunger weakened them, sleepless nights and watchful days were their portion, rats, peameal, mulesteak, and old horse their food, yet they ever responded to the call of duty either to fight or for fatigue service. It was amusing to hear the trades proposed by the outside to the inside, or by the rebs to their fat brethren who were so jealously keeping them from going astray. The leading articles of barter were coffee for tobacco, newspaper for newspaper, but there was a great deal more talk than trade, and the chaffing generally ended in assertions on the hand that they were coming over soon, and an invitation on the other hand to come to dinner and they would have a fresh mule cooked. Declining with thanks, the boys in blue went to their camp to full meals, to camp stories of flood and field, to tender readings of letters from wife, family or sweetheart, and, owing to numbers, light fighting when put on duty.

[end of excerpt]
-------------------------------------
M. E. Wolf
Southern Historical Society Papers
Volume XI. Richmond. Va., November, 1883. No. 11.
Reminiscences of the Siege of Vicksburg.

By Major J.T. Hogane, of the Engineer Corps.
PAPER NO. 3 (CONCLUSION).
Nearly every evening about dusk there would be a cessation of firing by the sharp shooters. Then the banter of the men on both sides would commence, and perhaps truces were made to meet outside of the works. One moonlight night I asked who the officer was in front, and after telling me his name, he invited me to a conference. We met in a ravine about one hundred feet from our line and talked faster in a given time than four men could have talked under less exciting conditions. This officer whose kindness I acknowledge, tendered me his notebook to write a letter to my wife, who over two years before, I had left in St. Louis. She answered it by way of a "flag of truce" and I got her letter in Richmond afterwards. Johnny Reb and Jonathan Fed had many a set to, to see who could say the funniest things, or who could outwit the other in a trade, which generally ended by a warning cry, "going to shoot, Johnny."

There never was an instance during the whole siege that advantage was taken by either side during these short truces, made extra official by the men themselves. From day to day the privates on the outside excited our curiosity by hints that in a short time they would blow the very foundations of the city into the air. They made it an open secret that when they got ready, two hundred cannon, opened on us, all at the same time, would make "Rome howl," at which the insides sneered.

The night before the guns opened -- for it was no idle boast our opponents had been making -- I was engaged raising the epaulement of a twenty four pound smooth bore, with a detail worn out to the last stage of usefulness. One boy laid down on the ground, telling his sergeant that he could not lift his spade, much less dirt. The sergeant reported him to me as insubordinate, so I went to see what was the matter. The boy frankly said he was starving, and his pale face, seen in the light of the moon, told the truth more emphatically than his voice. I thought of that boy's mother, away off in the hills of Alabama, that perhaps at that moment was praying for the life of her child, whose right foot edged the grave, and that was awaiting the order to forward march from the King of the shadowland. I had a hard biscuit in my pocket that had lain there for the coming hour, when we were to cut our way out. I placed it in his hand. He looked at it, and at me, then burst into a flood of tears, and whispered faintly, "Is this for me?" I never saw him more, but I hope that fair faced boy reached home to give the warm gratituted of his heart to the mother he spoke so lovingly about. Before we got through raising the battery a round of shots from artillery drove us to the protection of the fortification we had been strengthening, and then for hours the connonanding was terrific in its energy. Over the work we were in,shell burst in rapid succession, with a horrid din and concussion of the air that seemed to tear the breath our of the hearers.

It did not prevent some of the men, who had been working, from going to sleep. They lay back, on the hard plank floor, on which the gun carriage traversed, and, with a great look of "ennui," closed their eyes, heedless of danger, glory, or any other sentiment other than that of repose. The fusilade of the heavy guns could be traced all around the fire environed force of the south, and by an odd association of ideas in the rise and fall of sound, brought to mind the regular chimes of the church bells of a city. Old Bones, a steed that I had tied to a six pound enfilading field piece, shook his tail at the splintering of the shells as Tam O'Shanter's mare did at the Wharlocks. After an hour's waiting for the fire to cease, I cut his cogitations short by mounting him and defying sharp shooters and shell, making for camp, to save my share of mule soup and peabread. My camp was in the grounds of a castellated building on the south side of the city, a real place of security from all the cannonading going on. Under the shelter of a raised earth terrace my tent was an ark of refuge. A pallet and blanket, a piece of mulesteak, a drink of molasses beer, sour as vinegar, some pea meal, flour bread that could easily have been palmed off as first class bird lime, and five or six hours of dreamless sleep, "tired nature's sweet restorer;" a report in person made to engineer headquarters in the afternoon, a report to Major General Smith, commanding the line at 5 o'clock P.M., an active duty laying out and rebuilding earthworks destroyed during the day by the enemy, and it will be a fair representation of the daily routine of the engineer's work, to whose judgment and skill the efficiency of the earthworks of Vicksburg were entrusted. The narrow escapes they made, the stratagems of war they invented to meet existing difficulties, the strong spell that the word duty wrought in them to replace weariness, sickness, and a desire for death, rather than the life of the moment, does not strike the enthusiasm of the masses like the brilliant charge into the vortex of death that a Federal officer made when he leaped, standard in hand, on to the walls of the battery in which so many Missourians were blown up. Yet the 15,000 men who lay secure behind the dirt lines, and the still greater number who lay outside, felt the result of the eternal vigilance of the few scientific men who, in season and out of season gave unity and design to the labors of the noble soldiers whose rest was little in that unfortunate city. A few days before the termination of the attack upon Vicksburg the vanity of a Major of artillery who because of seniority was the chief of artillery on the line, caused me a narrow escape from the "sudden death" that the church reminds us every Sunday to pray against. He had sent a dispatch to Major General Smith that the enemy was making a breach in the works, and asking that the engineer officer report to the works at once. It was sent to me by General Smith, with a request to go. As I had been on duty sixteen hours I refused, but Colonel Lockett persuaded me to go. Just above the courthouse on the river road I was shot in the thigh, but fortunately having the means at hand and the minnie ball having touched no bone or artery I had the wound dressed and rode on, reporting to Brigadier General Vaughn at Fort Hill. There was nothing the matter with the works, so having plenty of time both General Vaughn and I expended an incalculable number of hard words on that soft artillery officer. He got the rheumatism, dug him a cave, and went to studying McMahon's fortification for the rest of the siege. The night preceding the surrender was the darkest I ever saw. I had just reported for duty in the rear of the works near the river; depressed in feelings, miserable and weak, an orderly handed me a dispatch and at the same time informed me that the Union soldiers were running mines under the stockade. He also told me that the Lieutenant of engineers placed there had been badly wounded. The post of danger being there, I literally felt my way over the sleeping soldiers, giving and taking impatient exclamations, until I reached the stockade. Silently I went over the breastworks to find out the direction and extent of the work the enemy was engaged in prosecuting. On my knees, and with ear to the ground I listened for the sappers and miners as they, mole like were running passages under the breastworks.

[extensive excerpt]

The whole siege was a farce so far as it meant a bloody and determined defense of the fortified position of Vicksburg. No large supplies of provisions had been accumulated inside of the works, munitions of war were scarce, and when Grant gave Pemberton Hobson's choice of surrendering on the 4th of July or a fight, he put on his little airs, but threw up the sponge on the natal day of the republic. Taking Colonel Scott's advice I did not fire the mine, but went down to the lower city. On my way I heard the rapid gallop of horses, and on looking behind me saw General Grant and staff, and at the tail end of the staff Fred. Grant in his shirt sleeves. General Grant's dark face, with its short, black stubby beard, gave me the impression at the time that it was the face of a just but determined man. The moment I saw it I felt that our men would be treated well, that the mean, petty spite of the non combatant leaders of the North would have no influence with him. Subsequent events proved the quality of the man, for he ordered a distribution of provisions without stint or measure. Sacks of Lincoln coffee were given to the boys -- a peace measure -- for it was a piece of pure good luck to get a quantity of the Arabian bean. As he had 22,000 pounds of Confederate bacon to draw on, he also gave us bacon to butter our flour bread with. So, for this and other reasons, Grant was praised among the Confederates in a quiet way. It took about a week to fix up our parole papers, when we bid farewell to Vicksburg, with Jackson as our objective point. Just beyond Pearl river, General Pemberton informed me that he had just got complete returns of the killed and wounded. Six hundred killed sunk into my mind but the number wounded I don't remember. How many died in the hospital under Yankee care he never knew. They had better have died on a field of victory, like Wolf on the plains of Abraham, with the ecstatic feeling, "They run" sounding to their dying senses.

It would be ill grace if, before finishing the story of Vicksburg's siege, warm praise was not given to the heroic brave men who endured the hardship of the fifty eight day and night fight; the desperate assaults made by the Federals on the slight entrenchment behind which they couched, half starved, yet full of the fire of battle. This hurling of iron balls from the throats of 200 cannon, and filling the air with minnie balls aimed with deadly effect against these men who occupied the sand rifle pits and lunettes of Vicksburg, attested both the power of the paternal government attacking and the solid bravery of the defensive force. The thunder of cannon, the sharp shriek of the rifle's leaden messenger, the threats of death that the thirteen inch bombs continually kept up as they coursed in curves through the air, the spattering of shrapnell, the quick explosion for shells tearing and crushing through the houses, the sudden death of a companion, the pale, hunger pinched faces around them, had no effect on the nerves of the men who talked openly, "No surrender." Hunger weakened them, sleepless nights and watchful days were their portion, rats, peameal, mulesteak, and old horse their food, yet they ever responded to the call of duty either to fight or for fatigue service. It was amusing to hear the trades proposed by the outside to the inside, or by the rebs to their fat brethren who were so jealously keeping them from going astray. The leading articles of barter were coffee for tobacco, newspaper for newspaper, but there was a great deal more talk than trade, and the chaffing generally ended in assertions on the hand that they were coming over soon, and an invitation on the other hand to come to dinner and they would have a fresh mule cooked. Declining with thanks, the boys in blue went to their camp to full meals, to camp stories of flood and field, to tender readings of letters from wife, family or sweetheart, and, owing to numbers, light fighting when put on duty.

[end of excerpt]
-------------------------------------
M. E. Wolf
Thanks for selecting these pieces. Nothing tells the story better than the ones that were there.
 
Difficult subjects:
  • Sexual violence
  • Slave loyalty to masters
  • racial massacres
  • military executions
  • the role of desertions, especially Confederate desertions, in the effective forces in 1865 Virginia
  • Reconstruction
As an aside, many scholars feel that academic work about the Civil War has taken a turn to the "dark side" - that is, we have a number of works that focus on death and suffering. If those were uncomfortable subjects before, they aren't such anymore.

- Alan
 
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Difficult subjects:
  • Sexual violence
  • Slave loyalty to masters
  • racial massacres
  • military executions
  • the role of desertions, especially Confederate desertions, in the effective forces in 1865 Virginia
  • Reconstruction
As an aside, many scholars feel that academic work about the Civil War has taken a turn to the "dark side" - that is, we have a number of works that focus on death and suffering. If those were uncomfortable subjects before, they aren't such anymore.

- Alan
Such is the ebb and flow. Events like the American civil war, with all it's complexities, twists and turns are viewed in terms of the time in which the subject is studied. Even in terms of our own brief time as participants and observers in the great scheme of things, our views change based on our own study, experience, perceptions and maturity.
 
It gets even better - they hosted one another in camp for supper and a drink on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. On the latter, a Union duty officer finding Confederates in his camp had them all arrested and taken prisoner. The mortified hosts appealed to General Meade who ordered the prisoners released and put back across the river.

I have the whole story as related by General Gordon (CSA) in my post #183.

I like to think that both sides were war weary and just wanted to go home. The politicians seemingly wanted to prosecute the war further and generals being obedient to their respective commanders-in-chief were the 'middle men per se.'

Just my opinions.

M. E. Wolf
 
Thanks for selecting these pieces. Nothing tells the story better than the ones that were there.

I agree 100%.

I haven't manually looked up such stories in another fine book, that I like that is filled with veterans of the Civil War without the 'ranker' of the Southern Historical Society, in the book "Under Both Flags." I won't be shocked to find similar stories of respectful barters back and forth between pickets and giving warning as so both parties could be on their proper 'sides' before battle actions commenced.

Just some thoughts.

M. E. Wolf
 
I suspect such incidents were not unknown, but nowhere near common. Before we dive into the warm and fuzzy pillow, let's remember the times that they didn't happen.
 
Difficult subjects:
  • the role of desertions, especially Confederate desertions, in the effective forces in 1865 Virginia

- Alan
I was listening to Eric Jacobson on an old CWT Radio and he was talking about the effect of desertion on the Army of Tennessee in 1864. I forget the numbers, bit a huge portion of the army was AWOL. This meant that the army at Franklin was both a hard core group and one that was extremely fatalistic, in his description. Yet it was something that we really did not think all that much about 50 years ago,
 
Caroline Janney has done some work on the veterans after the war and the animosity that still pervaded many of them.
The people of the different regions didn't like each other much before the war, during the war, or afterwards. Anyone like me who had as grandparents children of Confederate vets knows that without having to read a book.
 
I suspect such incidents were not unknown, but nowhere near common. Before we dive into the warm and fuzzy pillow, let's remember the times that they didn't happen.
You may very well be right. However in the books "Rebel Front and Rear" and "Co Atych" bartering with the enemy was not uncommon. The best we can do is go through our memoir books and see how much it occurred to get a rough sense of how common it was.
Leftyhunter
 
The people of the different regions didn't like each other much before the war, during the war, or afterwards. Anyone like me who had as grandparents children of Confederate vets knows that without having to read a book.
Yet in generations afterwards they fought together in various wars and married each other or at least made babies together no matter where they where born or the color of their skin or religion. Is America a great country or what?
Leftyhunter
 
I suspect such incidents were not unknown, but nowhere near common. Before we dive into the warm and fuzzy pillow, let's remember the times that they didn't happen.
More uncommon than common I would suspect, although probably a lot more frequent in areas under siege.
 
I would say a position is impregnable if the attacking force is inadequate. Your supposition assumes unlimited attacking capabilities. All a defender has to do is understand the limitations of his attacker and fortify his position accordingly which assumes he has that capability.

As a kid, I used to build impregnable snowforts, for example, because the kids who attacked me with snowballs were weanies and inadequately equipped.
Billy, that is a maxim in fortification construction. Your snow forts are the perfect example of my point. A determined enemy waits till spring or goes around and bops you from the rear...or waits until your mom calls...

If an enemy is determined enough they will eventually find a way to circumvent, besiege or undermine the work. You may delay or reroute until your numbers outlast an enemy, logistics work against them or a tactical/strategic error gives you advantage. No work in history has outlasted a persistent enemy- even the Great Wall, any castle, earthworks, trench, fort... Even as much as I love them, hell I was an 12B Engineer, and we reenact the CW Engineers, I have to understand their limitations. They give significant advantage to the builders if they are designed and employed properly but in and of themselves are never impregnable.
 
Billy, that is a maxim in fortification construction. Your snow forts are the perfect example of my point. A determined enemy waits till spring or goes around and bops you from the rear...or waits until your mom calls...

If an enemy is determined enough they will eventually find a way to circumvent, besiege or undermine the work. You may delay or reroute until your numbers outlast an enemy, logistics work against them or a tactical/strategic error gives you advantage. No work in history has outlasted a persistent enemy- even the Great Wall, any castle, earthworks, trench, fort... Even as much as I love them, hell I was an 12B Engineer, and we reenact the CW Engineers, I have to understand their limitations. They give significant advantage to the builders if they are designed and employed properly but in and of themselves are never impregnable.
My compliments Sgt. Ray, When springtime rolls around, not only my fort melts, but my enemy's ordnance has melted away, as well. My enemy has a mommy, too. I'll risk a good spanking. Know thine enemy.
 

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