Real or Faux? CSA Belt Buckle Authenticity

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Brady12

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Hello, I saw these two belt buckles for sale and am wondering if they are real or fake. I thought I had originally posted these in the for sale sale section by accident, but I cannot see it, so I apologize if this is a duplicate post.
Thank you


 
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44th ALA

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Hello, I saw these two belt buckles for sale and am wondering if they are real or fake. I thought I had originally posted these in the for sale sale section by accident, but I cannot see it, so I apologize if this is a duplicate post.
Thank you


If you ever see arrow style hooks on a confederate plate/buckle, run away. One....okay, two other things:
1. If you have an interest in these things, get your hands on a reference book or two. Or ten. This will show you what was in service versus the multitude of “fantasy” pieces out there.
2. This advice was given to me quite a few years ago and has served me well; handle as many authentic relics as you can at dealer shops, relic shows or with private collectors. When you do that, it will give you a better idea of what a correct patina looks like, as opposed to a chemically applied one. It will give you an idea of what the real one feels and looks like as far as weight and techniques used in the production and finishing process. There is really no substitute for having that knowledge and you can only get it by putting your hands and eyes on authentic relics.
Take care!
 
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Package4

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If you ever see arrow style hooks on a confederate plate/buckle, run away. One....okay, two other things:
1. If you have an interest in these things, get your hands on a reference book or two. Or ten. This will show you what was in service versus the multitude of “fantasy” pieces out there.
2. This advice was given to me quite a few years ago and has served me well; handle as many authentic relics as you can at dealer shops, relic shows or with private collectors. When you do that, it will give you a better idea of what a correct patina looks like, as opposed to a chemically applied one. It will give you an idea of what the real one feels and looks like as far as weight and techniques used in the production and finishing process. There is really no substitute for having that knowledge and you can only get it by putting your hands and eyes on authentic relics.
Take care!
These were so bad one didn't have to even see the obverse to know they were fake, but you are correct, arrow hooks are seldom seen on Southern buckles, though they do exist. There is one in the collection that you reference below Steuart Collection @ the VHS. There is another that I know of, in a private collection, both have copper hooks.
 
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