Confederate Imported 1862 Tower Converted Carbine Marking Question

[UCVRelics]

Here is a Confederate imported 1862 Tower musket converted to a carbine from my personnel collection. It was made by J Cook & Sons. Most of the marking I'm very familiar with but there are 3 that stump me.
On the side of the stock there is what looks like T Gollii. Any help on these markings would be greatly appreciated.

Under the barrel is what looks like Joun Clive

On the back of the lockplate which is marked J Cook is ??eatmam

It has the usual J Cook marks and the BSA

 

[Jobe Holiday]

What is the barrel length?
J.

 

[UCVRelics]

What is the barrel length?
J.

29 1/2. It has been converted to a carbine here are some more photos.

 

[Jobe Holiday]

Thank you.
J.

 

[JOHN42768]

Very nice

 

[Ricochet]

Nice piece.

 

[Jobe Holiday]

Which type of Confederate import marks does it have?
J.

 

[originalrebelyell]

Very nice piece.

 

[Hussar Yeomanry]

My only comments would be the following:

On the ??eatmam I wonder if it says ??eatham. Would that make more sense. Also you are probably able to make out whether it is an H or an M more easily on the original. It also almost likes the missing letter before hand might be an R. Kind of dubious on that though.

On the Joun Clive - I would wonder at John Clive? Certainly it looks (from the photo) like it could be the top of an H.

On the T. Gollii what about T. Coll II - Tower Collection II

Just some ideas but a fresh set of eyes might have been helpful... or maybe not.

 

[Ian Peavot]

Hi chaps, my first post outside the newbie zone. Hope you dont mind, but may I make a suggestion, the stamp of eatman or eatham looks incomplete and off centre, possibly due to the stamp not being aligned correctly? Could that word be an incomplete, Cheatham?

 

[UCVRelics]

Cheatham?

Thanks for the reply. I was thinking Cheatham as well and hope someone has seen this mark before.

 

[Ralph Heinz]

I have a Conf. used M1841 with the same ramrod with the brass end filed flat and filled with lead. I wonder if the name stamped on the left side of the stock opposite the lock plate might be an owner's name. There is a P.53 taken back to Vermont by a member of the 13th VVI after Gettysburg. He stamped his name three times on the rifle and had to have used a stamp made up for him as it was completely even and not stamped one letter at a time. However it was probably done after he bought it and got home. The name on your carbine would seem more likely to be some unknown English inspector as it isn't stamped one letter at a time by some soldier. A stamp like the one on your carbine was professionally made.

It's a fine carbine that "saw the elephant."

 

[ResearchPress]

John Clive (& Son) were barrel makers. In the 1860s there were at 279 Newtown Row, Birmingham.

David

 

[ScottMac]

Try posting your inquiry on the British Militaria forum here:

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/britishmilitariaforums/british-flint-and-percussion-arms-f4/

I'm sure they are familiar with all the markings on your rifle.

 

[ResearchPress]

Joseph Steatham was a gun lock maker. In 1861 he resided in Wednesbury, Staffordshire.

David

 

[originalrebelyell]

That is a nice musket I like it. Who ever trimmed it down did s good job.