Who's this guy?

Ben McCullough? Really? It doesn't look like him to me. Here's the photo from The Confederate General:
Definitely not Cleburne, though.View attachment 9659

Aha. Now you see my frustration. It's given in several sources as Ben, although I'd have to say....."Really?"

She's just certain it's Cleburne. I don't think she's looked at as many mustachioed generals as I have. :) (I have to be nice to her--I was once engaged to her son, who's since died.....urgh.....so I can't just come out and go...."Look, Joyce, it's not the same guy!" I thought perhaps if I could figure it out definitively, I could just name the guy and leave it at that. :) Obviously our Texas barbers weren't as skilled....:)
 
Pierre Gustave Toutant Beauregard. whew

Uh. No. I know Beau....there's a street where I grew up named for him.....he has those droopy eyes.....

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LOL....and not enough of a Van Dyke. :)
 
and this elderly UDC schoolteacher is just convinced it's Patrick Cleburne..who I know it's not.
Yeah, I don't know what her deal is but that's totally not Cleburne. Cleburne had much coarser features in addition to being more swarthy, black Irish as they used to call it, like my grandfather. Admittedly I had no idea it was McCulloch, but it sure isn't Cleburne.
 
Yeah, I don't know what her deal is but that's totally not Cleburne. Cleburne had much coarser features in addition to being more swarthy, black Irish as they used to call it, like my grandfather. Admittedly I had no idea it was McCulloch, but it sure isn't Cleburne.

She's from Stephenville. They think Cleburne hung the moon. I don't know why they don't like Granbury. Heck, she may be in the Granbury chapter! :) I need to look!
 
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Definitely Ben. Taken from a photo in civilian clothes. LOC provenance.
Looks like the real version of the idealized guy in the OP. That IS some kind of painting or drawing, not a photograph, and as such, it's got some artistic license going on; McCulloch is being shown at his best. Look at the shape of the nose. That really gives it away. I'm convinced now.
 
Looks like the real version of the idealized guy in the OP. That IS some kind of painting or drawing, not a photograph, and as such, it's got some artistic license going on; McCulloch is being shown at his best. Look at the shape of the nose. That really gives it away. I'm convinced now.

I kept wondering if it wasn't taken from something during the Mexican War...he looks much younger. That would explain the difference. It's definitely an engraving for the papers (the one I used).

Why couldn't I just use Henry and get it over with? Ah well.
 

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