Hatfields and McCoys

[CWNurse]

Ok..so I am coming out of the closet..kinda. I married into the McCoy clan and am happily divorced . The movie so far is staying pretty close to what I remember reading, however that was something like 16 yrs ago when I read and heard the info from daddy McCoy and wife. The way my mother in law told it was the Roseanne (think thats the name) was shunned by the McCoys but the Hatfields took her..but, again that was so long ago and maybe my tender heart couldn't take such mean info and my mind changed it to how I'd like it. The family I knew claimed it all started with a hog....didn't know the dog story though I used to have a bunch of McCoy info but gave it back to the ex when he left....

Don't shoot me..I am a peaceful kinda girl...

 

[mt155]

The Geico commercial was great.......Mr. Hamilton and Mr.Burr, please come into my office.

 

[Glorybound]

I need to clarify that I don't doubt that the romance existed between female McCoy and male Hatfield. Since I didn't know squat about the history of the feud before last night's episode except for some anecdotal stories from the elderly Clyde McCoy in the 1970's, I'm assuming that the episode is pretty much all based on truth. But my gripe with that portion of the series is that it's taking up a lot of space in a six hour show, or seems to be, and will take up some more space in tonight's episode if the previews are accurate. Seems to me that with only six hours to tell the story the romance could've been addressed with less film footage, but I know Hollywood loves that stuff so consequently we're not done with it yet it appears.

There was another scene that really has me baffled. It's where the Federal marshal goes into the saloon to arrest one of the principal characters, I'm assuming the character is a Hatfield because later on Hatfield patriarch Costner goes into the saloon to try to pay off the former lawman so that he'll leave town. Anyway, the marshal, while attempting to arrest the Hatfield gets his arse handed to him along with some lead slugs. And he loses his job over it. Evidently the lawman was fired for 'getting his arse handed to him along with some lead slugs.' So, I don't understand that, and further, this de-badged Federal marshal chooses to stay in town, and hang out at the very same establishment where he was handed his own arse, and drink a lot. I guess that's all based on true events but it sure is strange, at least in my opinion.

By the way, the ex-marshall is one of the most difficult to understand for me. I barely was able to recognize two words he said. Sounds as if he's talking with a mouthful of marbles with one of them partially blocking his windpipe. I kinda wish he had gotten whacked so I wouldn't have to try to figure out what he's talking about in tonight's episode. But...whatever.

 

[Delhi Rangers]

Really enjoyed the first episode! Looking forward to watching the rest. Devil Anse looks like a tough mean "ole coot on that horse and dressed in black. I would run to if he came looking for me. Thought that the dress and dialect was pretty good.
Great story, I have learned alot about the feud that I did not know before. As someone mentioned earlier, I always thought that all of the McCoys fought for the Union. Did not know that Randall served with Hatfield in a Confederate unit.

 

[TerryB]

It's better than I thought. Was the skirmish in 1863 WVa for real?

 

[TerryB]

I need to clarify that I don't doubt that the romance existed between female McCoy and male Hatfield. Since I didn't know squat about the history of the feud before last night's episode except for some anecdotal stories from the elderly Clyde McCoy in the 1970's, I'm assuming that the episode is pretty much all based on truth. But my gripe with that portion of the series is that it's taking up a lot of space in a six hour show, or seems to be, and will take up some more space in tonight's episode if the previews are accurate. Seems to me that with only six hours to tell the story the romance could've been addressed with less film footage, but I know Hollywood loves that stuff so consequently we're not done with it yet it appears.

There was another scene that really has me baffled. It's where the Federal marshal goes into the saloon to arrest one of the principal characters, I'm assuming the character is a Hatfield because later on Hatfield patriarch Costner goes into the saloon to try to pay off the former lawman so that he'll leave town. Anyway, the marshal, while attempting to arrest the Hatfield gets his arse handed to him along with some lead slugs. And he loses his job over it. Evidently the lawman was fired for 'getting his arse handed to him along with some lead slugs.' So, I don't understand that, and further, this de-badged Federal marshal chooses to stay in town, and hang out at the very same establishment where he was handed his own arse, and drink a lot. I guess that's all based on true events but it sure is strange, at least in my opinion.

By the way, the ex-marshall is one of the most difficult to understand for me. I barely was able to recognize two words he said. Sounds as if he's talking with a mouthful of marbles with one of them partially blocking his esophagus. I kinda wish he had gotten whacked so I wouldn't have to try to figure out what he's talking about in tonight's episode. But...whatever.

I thought he said he was a Pinkerton man. And the legality of his papers he intended to serve was highly suspect.

 

[TerryB]

I also had trouble with some of the dialogue. Didn't hear a word the androgynous youth said as he/she expired on the battlefield, pistol ready to blow own brains out. Whatever it was, it seemed to cause Ol' Anse a heap of regrets about the Cause.

 

[Delhi Rangers]

It's better than I thought. Was the skirmish in 1863 WVa for real?

There was a battle at Droop Mountain. This was the scene in the movie where Randall McCoy was captured.

http://www.droopmountainbattlefield.com/

 

[Truxx1956]

Looks pretty good so far. I also would like to say thanks for the pics. I like the rifle. Very COOL!

 

[Nathanb1]

By the way, the ex-marshall is one of the most difficult to understand for me. I barely was able to recognize two words he said. Sounds as if he's talking with a mouthful of marbles with one of them partially blocking his windpipe. I kinda wish he had gotten whacked so I wouldn't have to try to figure out what he's talking about in tonight's episode. But...whatever.

Ohhhhhh! I thought it was ME! It's so good to learn someone else couldn't understand a word the guy said! I thought it was just post-school deafness!

 

[oldpete63]

Watched the 1st Episode tonight - with the ultimate terminator critic at my side - both enjoyed it - expected less - got more

 

[Mosin]

This first article mentions the feud starting prior to the Civil War.
New York Times: Feb 24, 1908

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F00717F7395517738DDDAD0A94DA405B888CF1D3

Mosin

 

[Mosin]

A War of Extermination
New York Times: Jan 25, 1888

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F10710F7355A1A738DDDAC0A94D9405B8884F0D3

Mosin

 

[Mosin]

And one more.
Old M'Coy-Hatfield Feud
New York Times: May 3, 1896

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F00F16F6395A16738DDDAA0894DD405B8685F0D3

Mosin

 

[Bob Owen]

My grandfather told me stories of the feud, but the older I got the more of a truth stretcher I realized he was!

 

[bama46]

Costner has been described as using different vehicles to always play the same role. i like watchin his movies, but always agreed that the role was the same.. not unlike John Wayne in the 1960's.. This however shows a different side of Costner, one I like very much.. I am enjoying this series

 

[tmh10]

I need to clarify that I don't doubt that the romance existed between female McCoy and male Hatfield. Since I didn't know squat about the history of the feud before last night's episode except for some anecdotal stories from the elderly Clyde McCoy in the 1970's, I'm assuming that the episode is pretty much all based on truth. But my gripe with that portion of the series is that it's taking up a lot of space in a six hour show, or seems to be, and will take up some more space in tonight's episode if the previews are accurate. Seems to me that with only six hours to tell the story the romance could've been addressed with less film footage, but I know Hollywood loves that stuff so consequently we're not done with it yet it appears.

There was another scene that really has me baffled. It's where the Federal marshal goes into the saloon to arrest one of the principal characters, I'm assuming the character is a Hatfield because later on Hatfield patriarch Costner goes into the saloon to try to pay off the former lawman so that he'll leave town. Anyway, the marshal, while attempting to arrest the Hatfield gets his arse handed to him along with some lead slugs. And he loses his job over it. Evidently the lawman was fired for 'getting his arse handed to him along with some lead slugs.' So, I don't understand that, and further, this de-badged Federal marshal chooses to stay in town, and hang out at the very same establishment where he was handed his own arse, and drink a lot. I guess that's all based on true events but it sure is strange, at least in my opinion.

By the way, the ex-marshall is one of the most difficult to understand for me. I barely was able to recognize two words he said. Sounds as if he's talking with a mouthful of marbles with one of them partially blocking his windpipe. I kinda wish he had gotten whacked so I wouldn't have to try to figure out what he's talking about in tonight's episode. But...whatever.

You would have to be a native West Virginian or Kentucky man to understand. If you were you would know the mindset of these people. This story is being told by people who did good research to my mind. There is the modern world, but there are still people around here that still operate as if it were still back then. I grew up around such folks. This is a very interesting look at this point in history for me.

 

[bobs0651]

my uncle is married to a gal from WV.... he loves her to death,calls her his little west virginny hillbilly,she calls him dad lol he's an old fart of 79 she's a yungun at 55 yea he robbed the cradle and got lucky as she cares for him since he had his heart attack a few yrs back. aww truer love has no man seen i guess. he shld worship the ground she walks on IMO.
and nathan sir, my old ears aint doing too good unnerstanding the true southern english either and its not the TV's fault lol

 

[Nathanb1]

I think the guy we were discussing (now that I'm watching the 2nd time) had a speech defect, Finally figured that one out. Once you watch a while and pick up the rhythms a bit, it's not so hard. Dang! Took a while to figure out that was Tom Berenger there. And yes, Powers Boothe is his wonderful self.

 

[Glorybound]

I think the guy we were discussing (now that I'm watching the 2nd time) had a speech defect, Finally figured that one out. Once you watch a while and pick up the rhythms a bit, it's not so hard. Dang! Took a while to figure out that was Tom Berenger there. And yes, Powers Boothe is his wonderful self.

I'm glad Boothe is in the film, I've been able to understand every word the guy has uttered. And, I completely missed Berenger, I don't believe it but I did...reckon I'll be re-watching episode two also.