HF Westerns

Historical-Fiction
John Wayne in his first movie compared with the last:

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The Big Trail (1930) ...................The Shootest (1976)

It's hard to believe the man acted for so long (46 years).

Sources:
The Shootist outranks The Big Trail by 1,000,000%.
 
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Just watched The Sacketts. It was very, very good and a lot of fun, and my favorite miniseries Western, behind Lonesome Dove. Who couldn't love a movie not only with Selleck and Elliot, but Glenn Ford, Jack Elam, Slim Pickens, L.Q. Jones, Buck Taylor and Gene Evans?!

Not to spoil it, but I would've preferred a different wrap-up for Ford's guy.
 
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Just watched The Sacketts. It was very, very good and a lot of fun, and my favorite miniseries Western, behind Lonesome Dove. Who couldn't love a movie not only with Selleck and Elliot, but Glenn Ford, Jack Elam, Slim Pickens, L.Q. Jones, Buck Taylor and Gene Evans?!

Not to spoil it, but I would've preferred a different wrap-up for Ford's guy.

The Sacketts was followed up by the three horsemen above, Selleck, Elliot, and Osterhage in "The Shadow Riders" in 1982 as the Traven brothers...

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In the Shadow Riders, Elliott squared off against Marshall Teague...

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And they had a rematch in "Roadhouse" in 1989:

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For his part, Selleck took on Teague again in 2001's "Crossfire Trail"... and shoots him off a roof with a brand new Winchester Centennial '76...

 
The Sacketts was followed up by the three horsemen above, Selleck, Elliot, and Osterhage in "The Shadow Riders" in 1982 as the Traven brothers...

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In the Shadow Riders, Elliott squared off against Marshall Teague...

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And they had a rematch in "Roadhouse" in 1989:

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For his part, Selleck took on Teague again in 2001's "Crossfire Trail"... and shoots him off a roof with a brand new Winchester Centennial '76...

The Shadow Riders is a favorite of mine.
 
The Shadow Riders was a very entertaining movie. Very few historical inaccuracies. I'm guessing this was 1865? There were no railroads on South Texas at that time just like there was no dynamite for Uncle Jack (Ben Johnson) to blow up. But still a good movie.
It seems like you said it didn't look like Texas in the movie. Is that true?

I'll watch any movie with Ben Johnson. Was genuinely a good and manly guy.

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I too this day have never seen The Wild Bunch--one of the few important ones I've never seen. I would love to. I'm not nuts about excessive violence so I don't know how I'd respond. I've seen the Battle of Blood Porch on YouTube, so I know how it ends.

 
My great-great-grandfather immigrated to Florida from Texas in a covered wagon in the 1920s. I didn't know people still did that then.
Yeah that seems more Oregon Trail type vibe. I'd say that's pretty accurate since Henry Ford had just invented his Model T, and I don't think they were made to travel huge distances, especially across 4 states.

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I too this day have never seen The Wild Bunch--one of the few important ones I've never seen. I would love to. I'm not nuts about excessive violence so I don't know how I'd respond. I've seen the Battle of Blood Porch on YouTube, so I know how it ends.



The ending is very over the top. But the film is still great, considering in the plot, the ending was entirely unnecessary... The violence was the gang's means to an end... loot and money; but in the end, once their caper with the general paid off... they couldn't leave well enough alone...the means was more important than the end...

I seem to recall Mr. Peckinpah simply referred to the picture as "Killers go to Mexico."
 
The Shadow Riders was a very entertaining movie. Very few historical inaccuracies. I'm guessing this was 1865? There were no railroads in South Texas at that time just like there was no dynamite for Uncle Jack (Ben Johnson) to blow up. But still a good movie.

I've seen reference that Shadow Riders was filmed in California at Columbia State Historic Park, Santa Cruz, and at Sonora.

Main street in Columbia State historic park...

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We often speak there of unsuitables weapons used into Westerns...
Here on TV they showed last week "The battle for Anzio", starring Robert Mitchum, Robert Ryan...the G.I's use British Lee Enfield rifles...that was very disturbing, they show hundreds of Enfields rifles during the marching and boarding scenes...finally, on close plans, and fighting scenes, the soldiers are showed using M1 Garand at last...
 
I recognize that street, it surely figured in an other Western...probably more.
Here's a list on IMDB of stuff filmed at Columbia Historic State Park...


In Pale Rider, where the preacher picks up his pistol at the Wells Fargo office, that scene was filmed at Columbia HSP. The Wells Fargo building there was built in 1858.

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Here's a photo of the building about 1870:
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Also the scene of "Yuba City" where Stockburn is the marshal.
 
Will watch again tonight "The woman they almost lynched"...I own the dvd but haven't seen it for a while, I may have forgotten many things about that film (that's an advantage with B movies), it's related with the USCW, Quantrill, etc...
 

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