NF The Gray Ghost 1957-1958

Non-Fiction
Gray Ghost had a few notable actors in it occasionally - I can remember one episode featuring Angie Dickenson as a damsel in distress, and at least a couple with John Banner - who later played Sergeant Schulz in Hogan's Heroes - as a rather unlikely Heros Von Borcke!

They really throw Heros Von Borke under the bus in Gray Ghost. The portrayal usually has him doing something stupid disobeying orders. Kind of sad actually, to me at least, I enjoy the real Von Borke's memoirs, even if my copy got loaned out several years ago and I've not seen it since.
 
They really throw Heros Von Borke under the bus in Gray Ghost. The portrayal usually has him doing something stupid disobeying orders. Kind of sad actually, to me at least, I enjoy the real Von Borke's memoirs, even if my copy got loaned out several years ago and I've not seen it since.
Yes - he's played for comic relief, much like Schultz in Hogan's Heroes. John Banner was an Austrian Jew and a recent immigrant who used his accent to effect in both series.
 
Since Davy Crocket has been brought up, I have to share a story of it from last weekend.

It came on, on Saturday and my mother had to watch it, and funny enough so did my 84 year old grandmother, (she really enjoys this newfangled technology called DVR every old show gets recorded since she discovered it a year ago), and talking to my mother, she had to carry on about Davy Crocket while watching it. Well my mother got to carrying on about how Crocket must of been a sight walking around in Washington DC in his buckskins, and how would never be tolerated today. Me being the historical nitpicker I am, I had to point out that that probably never happened. This is how that conversation went:

Me- Well momma, I'm pretty sure he didn't wear buckskins to DC, most accounts back then have him not wearing buckskins at all with him usually dressed as a gentleman.

My Mother- YOU CAN SHUT THE **** UP RIGHT NOW!!!! I AM NOT GOING TO LET YOU DESTROY DAVY CROCKET!!! He did wear buckskins, he was a frontiersman, he wasn't going to wear anything else! Especially since he was a hunter! I will not let you destroy the image of Davy Crocket in my head! You were not there! You can't know he didn't!

Me-Momma what I said is taken from people who were there though.

My Mother- WELL SOMEONE IS LYING!

Me- Well he did wear the coonskin cap, with his gentleman cloths at the Alamo if that makes you feel better.

My Mother- Just shut up, he was a frontiersman, and the painting of him is of him in buckskins, so he obviously preferred them.

Me- Momma you can't take one painting of the man as ultimate proof, paintings were staged you know, and there is a painting of him dressed as a gentleman to you know.

My Mother- You can leave now. I'm not going to let you destroy one of our greatest heros, Davy Crocket was a great man, you should want to be like him instead of tearing him down.

Me- He preferred to be called David...

My Mother- THERE ARE GUNS IN THIS HOUSE!!! How many times have told you not to argue!

That has become one of the more memorable conversations with my Mother. She wasn't going to allow me to slander her hero like she says I do all historical figures when I say Hollywood got it wrong. That day I finally learned why my parents hated the 2004 Alamo movie with such an extreme passion. My mother won't allow it to be watched in her presence, and my father, while a little more open minded on the subject, I now have an idea of why he seemed so disappointed when we left the theaters watching that movie when I was a kid. I guess a lot of folks can't handle the truth. Still a funny exchange with my mother though, even if frustrating.
 
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Lol,lol,lol...Good for your mom. Just kidding but I understand how she thinks. I guess we were a lot less jaded and more naive back then. I am 67 and I see them now, I know how hokey those shows can be. But to us they were heros. Probably even more myth than just legend.We just wanted to be brave like they were. Why we knew for a fact that the Gray Ghost, Swamp Fox and Davy Crockett could whip any ten other men. Yep, no doubt about it :)
 
Yes - he's played for comic relief, much like Schultz in Hogan's Heroes. John Banner was an Austrian Jew and a recent immigrant who used his accent to effect in both series.

I loved Schultzy...

It just kills me that Klink, and General Burkhalter were also Jews. Heck I think the Frenchman was to. Hogan's Heroes was a great show, I enjoy watching it. Schultz with his American Krag-Jorgensen rifle always catches my eye.
 
Being a child of the 50's I remember this show very well and it is fair to say that it kick started my inexplicable interest in a past conflict that was fought on another continent and which (at the time) I thought had little to do with me, my family and my people. Back then we only had a 9" screen black and white TV so the Gray Ghost really was 'Grey' for me. I was only 7 years old when the show was first aired so I have little recollection of actors and plot lines never mind historical inaccuracies LOL. But I do regard it as being the spark that ignited my life long attachment to a conflict which we all clearly hold so very special.

Thanks for the thread.
Crimea,
Back then I had four heros. Davy Crockett, John Mosby, Francis Marion..And the Scarecrow. Now the Scarecrow was fictional but a composite of several Cornish smugglers. His alter ego was the Rev. Syn...Rev. Syn, how cool is that!!
 
My Grandfather took my brother and me to the local airport to see "Davy Crockett" aka Fess Parker arrive for a public appearance and when the man himself stepped out, he was wearing a business suit and a coonskin hat...I was emotionally scarred for quite a while after that. But that said, it is still one of my prized childhood memories.:D

I can't believe I never got to meet Cousin Fess! My dad showed horses at all the major rodeos during that time, and I got to meet a lot of the stars of the day because we were almost always in the same barn. Turned out, years later, my granddad was Fess' first cousin (the family went to visit his sister one day, but I was being shy and wouldn't cooperate). Cool guy.
 
I can't believe I never got to meet Cousin Fess! My dad showed horses at all the major rodeos during that time, and I got to meet a lot of the stars of the day because we were almost always in the same barn. Turned out, years later, my granddad was Fess' first cousin (the family went to visit his sister one day, but I was being shy and wouldn't cooperate). Cool guy.


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