!!The 2 rivet scabbard!!

[CWcadet]

Hello All,
I'm trying to look into the use of the 2 rivet scabbard, during the war. If anyone can share some information I would greatly appreciate it. Also, was it used by both sides of the war.
CWcadet

 

[captaindrew]

The 2 rivet was an early war Federal scabbard. While I'm sure some made their way to Confederate hands CS made scabbards had no rivets.

 

[captaindrew]

Here is an example of the 2 rivet scabbard

 

[captaindrew]

If you look closely the standing Union soldier in the center of this well known photo has a 2 rivet scabbard

 

[CWcadet]

Thank you for your information. When I am Reenacting I typically carry a 53 Enfield with the Enfield Scabbard and Frogg ( the only British accoutrement I carry) . I do have the 7 rivet scabbard as well, I portray a Confederate and Federal Unit. I am just trying to find more information on what the proper accoutrements to own and carry. Would the Enfield Scabbard and Frogg for Confederate?

 

[johan_steele]

Relatively few English accoutrements made across the pond. A US style scabbard would be more accurate.

The P53 was shipped with a bayonet but no scabbard.

 

[CWcadet]

Relatively few English accoutrements made across the pond. A US style scabbard would be more accurate.

The P53 was shipped with a bayonet but no scabbard.

Thanks for the information everyone.

 

[captaindrew]

Also the British scabbard usually came with an accoutrement set so unless you are also using an English cartridge box cap box and belt it's not quite right not to say it was never used solo. I think a 2 rivet scabbard is a good choice if you only have one for both impressions. Just to see the options check out the Missouri Boot and L D Hanning websites, they both offer several options of both US and CS scabbards.

 

[captaindrew]

Another option which I did, our unit is primarily CS but we do galvanize Union quite often, I spent a bit more money getting a good sewn CS scabbard with a tin tip then picked up the standard sutler 7 rivet scabbard to go Union which are pretty inexpensive so I think that covers both sides pretty well without breaking the bank.

 

[Package4]

The two rivet is appropriate for early war events and the seven rivet would be for mid to later war escapades. Confederate scabbards would be sewn and not riveted unless captured or appropriated from northern supply. There are always exceptions to the rule.

I do not believe the seven rivet scabbard made its appearance until 1863

 

[Lanyard Puller]

To just add a bit to Package4s' post.
Confederate bayonet scabbards are very rare, even more so with the bayonet for which it was made. All had seams down the back flat. The 3 which look similar were most likely a Richmond product. The one with the loop top had a Lorenz bayonet in it, and a super funky pewter tip.

The tips were mostly tin or pewter. Very rarely was brass used.

 

[Package4]

To just add a bit to Package4s' post.
Confederate bayonet scabbards are very rare, even more so with the bayonet for which it was made. All had seams down the back flat. The 3 which look similar were most likely a Richmond product. The one with the loop top had a Lorenz bayonet in it, and a super funky pewter tip.
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The tips were mostly tin or pewter. Very rarely was brass used.
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As always most humbled with not only the LP's knowledge, but the actual pieces that support it, I can not find an emoji to express this.........

 

[captaindrew]

Here is my reproduction CS scabbard made by Missouri Boot.

 

[Legion Para]

http://www.oldsouthantiques.com/forsale/bayntscb1.htm

CS Bayonet with US Scabbard

The scabbard sheathes a captured US bayonet. It is clear that the bayonet is original to the scabbard

 

[Lanyard Puller]

[QUOTE="captaindrew, Here is my reproduction CS scabbard made by Missouri Boot."

That's a scary good repop.

 

[captaindrew]

[QUOTE="captaindrew, Here is my reproduction CS scabbard made by Missouri Boot."

That's a scary good repop.

He does great work, all my CS leather goods have come from him. His shoes are really outstanding and fit like a glove.