Smith Carbine Bullets

jerryaustin

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I have purchased the Smith carbine shown in the attachment. I am now in search of an authentic bullet mold for cast bullets that will work with this original Smith. I want bullet designs that would have been used in the Civil War. I know that there are probably modern designs that would have better ballistics, but I want to be true to the times it was used. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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I have purchased the Smith carbine shown in the attachment. I am now in search of an authentic bullet mold for cast bullets that will work with this original Smith. I want bullet designs that would have been used in the Civil War. I know that there are probably modern designs that would have better ballistics, but I want to be true to the times it was used. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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jerryaustin

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That's really beautiful. Hard to tell from pix, but looks like lots of Blue and Case still on it. Whose manufacture? NSSA guys love these.
It does have lots of blue and visible case hardening colors. Of the three manufacturing sites, Massachusetts Arms Company of Chicopee Falls, Massachusetts; the American Machine Works in Springfield, Massachusetts; and the American Arms Company in Chicopee Falls. this one was manufactured by the American Machine Works in Springfield, Mass for Poultney & Trimble, Baltimore.
 

Booner

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I have an original Smith, too, I got it years ago when I shot in the N-SSA. It was very accurate at 50 yards.
I used modern black powder bullets in it, I think they were called "Buffalo Bore" and looked a lot like hollow point wad cutters, but that was 40+ years ago.

I'd be interested in seeing how well your originally made bullets shoot in your carbine
 

jerryaustin

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Jul 12, 2021
I have an original Smith, too, I got it years ago when I shot in the N-SSA. It was very accurate at 50 yards.
I used modern black powder bullets in it, I think they were called "Buffalo Bore" and looked a lot like hollow point wad cutters, but that was 40+ years ago.

I'd be interested in seeing how well your originally made bullets shoot in your carbine
I'll let you know.
 

FedericoFCavada

First Sergeant
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Jan 27, 2015
Location
San Antonio, Texas
I use 50-50 bees wax and mutton tallow on my Minies. When I started out, I wanted the über-authentic U.S. Army recipe for the campaigns in the American South, and so I mixed 8 parts wax to 1 part tallow. Way, way too sticky, even in Texas heat.

I've got the Eras Gone bullet mould for the type II Carolina "Nesler" ball used in .69 smooth-bores, but I've not fired enough yet to make a meaningful test of them. If only I could retire?!

Thanks for the pictures of your carbine and the ammunition! I'm envious of your set up to display them... I've got a rotating stand, and at some point, I'll put some up on the wall... But in the meantime, they are all hidden away in a safe.
 

jerryaustin

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Jul 12, 2021
I use 50-50 bees wax and mutton tallow on my Minies. When I started out, I wanted the über-authentic U.S. Army recipe for the campaigns in the American South, and so I mixed 8 parts wax to 1 part tallow. Way, way too sticky, even in Texas heat.

I've got the Eras Gone bullet mould for the type II Carolina "Nesler" ball used in .69 smooth-bores, but I've not fired enough yet to make a meaningful test of them. If only I could retire?!

Thanks for the pictures of your carbine and the ammunition! I'm envious of your set up to display them... I've got a rotating stand, and at some point, I'll put some up on the wall... But in the meantime, they are all hidden away in a safe.
I used mutton tallow also.
 

toot

Corporal
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Jan 21, 2021
BURNSIDE CARBINE AMMO, how did you make then up? turn them out on a lathe? as the ones shown are not loaded? just curious?
 
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