Sherman Sherman was a hero

[Nathanb1]

I belong to another board where bumping old threads is frowned in. Glad this place isn't like that.

Sure saves a lot of research. This one had some really good sources on it...which new members should get the opportunity to see.

 

[Battalion]

Wasn't there a companion thread to this one called "Sherman was a Nero"?

 

[OpnCoronet]

"Hero" is a badly overused descriptive, but to the extent that Lee or Longstreet were 'heroes' so was Sherman.

 

[Mark F. Jenkins]

Agreed. I suspect the original intent of this thread was to start a ruckus, of course.

 

[CSA Today]

Agreed. I suspect the original intent of this thread was to start a ruckus, of course.

Anyone, who led an army or a band of vandals throughout the ages, no matter how vile or destructive, was a hero to many of his men and to those in his nation. But that is not the surprising thing, what is surprising, nay astounding, is a provocative thread such as this one lasted 55 pages without a moderator locking it, but then again, maybe not so surprising.

"There is a class of people (in the South), men, women and children, who must be killed or banished before you can hope for peace and order."

William T. Sherman

 

[wilber6150]

Anyone, who led an army or a band of vandals throughout the ages, no matter how vile or destructive, was a hero to many of his men and to those in his nation. But that is not the surprising thing, what is surprising, nay astounding, is a provocative thread such as this one lasted 55 pages without a moderator locking it, but then again, maybe not so surprising.

"There is a class of people (in the South), men, women and children, who must be killed or banished before you can hope for peace and order."

William T. Sherman

Locking it for what reason? If you don't like the thread then don't take part in it...

 

[CSA Today]

Locking it for what reason? If you don't like the thread then don't take part in it...

I didn't say I didn't like it; my reaction was more amazement that so provocative a thread survived 55 pages without a swath of red ink and dire moderator warnings.

"There is a class of people (in the South), men, women and children, who must be killed or banished before you can hope for peace and order."

William T. Sherman

 

[ole]

I recommend that everyone read or reread this thread. It's long and frequently tedious. but filled with incredible detail, scholarship, and well-founded opinion. (And, as might be expected, a dash of BS.)

And, it wasn't locked because there are few snarky comments. Provactive threads are not locked if they remain civil.

 

[CSA Today]

I recommend that everyone read or reread this thread. It's long and frequently tedious. but filled with incredible detail, scholarship, and well-founded opinion. (And, as might be expected, a dash of BS.)

And, it wasn't locked because there are few snarky comments. Provactive threads are not locked if they remain civil.

Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Battalion]

...Provactive threads are not locked if they remain civil.

You mean like civil war civil?

 

[Diana9]

Sherman

W.T. Sherman..no matter what you think of the man, good or bad, wouldn't ya just love to sit down and a beer and cigar with the man!

I sure would, though I'd pass on the cigar.

 

[GAvolunteer]

geez a 7 YEAR OLD THREAD still in operation: amazing

 

[D Lord]

It bothers me that so many Southerners put down Sherman for just doing what he had to do. I tend to believe the South just can't get over the fact that they were outsmarted, outmanuvered and intimidated by such brilliant tactics and strategy. Am I wrong here? Sherman did nothing that went against international laws of the time and I don't understand why the South faults him so much. Explanations welcome.

Sherman was a war criminal,a pyromaniac,evil man who took pleasure in fighting non-combatants,i.e. women, children & old men.I guess that kind of "fighting" made him feel important.I can see nothing brilliant about that.You are very wrong.Read his letters to his wife about how much he enjoyed his war criminal acts.

 

[D Lord]

It bothers me that so many Southerners put down Sherman for just doing what he had to do. I tend to believe the South just can't get over the fact that they were outsmarted, outmanuvered and intimidated by such brilliant tactics and strategy. Am I wrong here? Sherman did nothing that went against international laws of the time and I don't understand why the South faults him so much. Explanations welcome.

I'm sure that he was a hero in his mind.

 

[Tin cup]

Sherman was a war criminal,a pyromaniac,evil man who took pleasure in fighting non-combatants,i.e. women, children & old men.I guess that kind of "fighting" made him feel important.I can see nothing brilliant about that.You are very wrong.Read his letters to his wife about how much he enjoyed his war criminal acts.

There was "nothing brilliant" about how the South tried to stop him, either.
Sherman showed the south that he could go most anywhere he needed to finish the war.
And he did.
My ancestors couldn't stop him in the Vicksburg, and Atlanta Campaigns, did you have any who could?

Kevin Dally

 

[wilber6150]

Sherman was a war criminal,a pyromaniac,evil man who took pleasure in fighting non-combatants,i.e. women, children & old men.I guess that kind of "fighting" made him feel important.I can see nothing brilliant about that.You are very wrong.Read his letters to his wife about how much he enjoyed his war criminal acts.

Took pleasure? And what was the reason he faced second rate units made up of old men and young boys, where were the main line Confederate units? Was he supposed to chase after them as they were going in the opposite direction that he was instead of confronting him...

 

[wilber6150]

I'm sure that he was a hero in his mind.

Hmmmm hundreds of thousands of Northeners would agree with as well....

 

[JPK Huson 1863]

Ohhhh dear. Wasn't someone just marveling at this thread surviving for 55 pages unscathed?

I'm sorry, I realize you're a private hence not hugely conversant with the forum but the ' Evil man ' post is pretty off-the-wall factually. It's the same kind of thing as someone with an agenda hauling off without their facts and beginning a brawl on how Forrest single-handedly rampaged through the south with a sheet over his head, responsible for every lynching from 1865 until 1966. He's associated with the klan, a modern, condensed kind of scapegoat is required ( an amalgamation of every toothless wonder who really did poke holes in a sheet ) I suppose for simplicity's sake, and poof- a giant of an evil man bearing zero resemblence to the person who said goodnight to his wife each evening appears. I'm also not being snippy ( or snotty ), just pointing out that this kind of extreme perspective tends to be unanswerable no matter who is being discussed, since the gaps away from the facts are simply too yawningly vast.

 

[CSA Today]

If I were a Northerner, in search of a hero, or a Southern toady anxiously trying to please, I would look no further than to choose the noble Benjamin F. Butler, the heroic conqueror of New Orleans. Who else so worthy of praise, who else so vividly demonstrated the principle of might makes right as this colossus subduing the vicious women, sullen old men and bratty children of that rebellious city

Lieutenant Charles Brown (21st Michigan) describing a Confederate attack on his position at Bentonville: "stood as long as a man could stand and when that was no longer a possibility we run like the duce."

The Battle of Bentonville, 19-21 March 1865

 

[ole]

If I were a Northerner, in search of a hero, or a Southern toady anxiously trying to please, I would look no further than to choose the noble Benjamin F. Butler, the heroic conqueror of New Orleans. Who else so worthy of praise, who else so vividly demonstrated the principle of might makes right as this colossus subduing the vicious women, sullen old men and bratty children of that rebellious city

Lieutenant Charles Brown (21st Michigan) describing a Confederate attack on his position at Bentonville: "stood as long as a man could stand and when that was no longer a possibility we run like the duce."

The Battle of Bentonville, 19-21 March 1865

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