Secession Cockade?

[lelliott19]

How does one identify a secession cockade? I picked this ambrotype up at an estate sale in rural Lincoln/Talladega AL area. Looking for more info.

 

[relichound]

There were some Union cocades, as I understand it, but the Southern ones were much more well known.
I once saw one on a soldier, in a tintype.

 

[huskerblitz]

If you go to Google images and type in "Union Cockade" you can see some examples of some or click the link below for some:
https://www.pinterest.com/7letterdeborah/cockades-ribbons/

 

[16thVA]

I was going to bid on this tintype of a man who is supposedly wearing a secession cockade from Upshur Co., WV, but I had a hard time seeing it clearly, and it went for a lot more than I would have bid anyway. Here is a copy of the picture.

 

[lelliott19]

Wow it really is hard to see or know if thats even what it is. Could be just a smudge on the image? If you dont mind my asking, what did it sell for?

 

[16thVA]

This was a few months ago on Ebay, I believe it sold for about $250.

 

[Allie]

I was going to bid on this tintype of a man who is supposedly wearing a secession cockade from Upshur Co., WV, but I had a hard time seeing it clearly, and it went for a lot more than I would have bid anyway. Here is a copy of the picture.

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Is this the same man in different clothes? Flipped he looks really similar! And what I can see of the rosette looks the same.

 

[Allie]

Can anyone tell me if this is a secession cockade on this guy's lapel? How does one identify a secession cockade from any other type? Were there pro Union cockades as well?

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There were cockades for everything from secession to being an usher at a dance. In a black and white photo, I have no idea how you would tell anything other than it was important enough for him to wear while being photographed.

 

[noman]

Is there a Id of the well armed CS?

 

[Allie]

Is there a Id of the well armed CS?

I just pulled it off the Pinterest page Huskerblitz posted. I'll check.

 

[Allie]

Ebay listing says Private David Colbert of Company C, 46th Virginia Infantry, Wearing Secession Badge.

 

[roberts]

There were Confederate and Union cockades. There was no single standardized design although southern versions tended to be one color (often red or blue) while northern cockades were often red, white, and blue. Some designs were embellished with buttons depicting palmettos, eagles, lincoln, davis, etc. In Texas they often incorporated a metal star.

 

[lelliott19]

Can someone with a photo editing software please enlarge the OP and see if you can get any details of the cockade? Thanks

 

[huskerblitz]

There's not much to make out when enlarged. Quality just isn't that great.

BTW....you can use Pixlr. It's a lot like Photoshop but it's free and has desktop and mobile apps. In case you ever need a photo editor in the future.

 

[AndyHall]

Agree with @huskerblitz , not much to work with.

 

[lelliott19]

Thanks anyway guys! Yall are the best!

 

[Missouri Rebel]

I believe it is a Secession Cockade. Nice image.

 

[Missouri Rebel]

Just got this image myself. Does anyone have any clues about his cockade, sash or ribbon?
Note 12 Stars on the sash. (Number of Confederate States?)

 

[Allie]

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Just got this image myself. Does anyone have any clues about his cockade, sash or ribbon?
Note 12 Stars on the sash. (Number of Confederate States?)

My, he must spent a lot of time on his hair!

 

[Alabama!]

How does one identify a secession cockade? I picked this ambrotype up at an estate sale in rural Lincoln/Talladega AL area. Looking for more info.

I know this post is old, but I would love to see the original image you are talking about. Thanks!

How does one identify a secession cockade? I picked this ambrotype up at an estate sale in rural Lincoln/Talladega AL area. Looking for more info.