Real or Faux? Remington new model

[Jack7171]

After reading the recent ongoing remington new model thread, and learning a few things from the posts, it led me to look at my own new model 44. I never gave it much thought other than hoping it was all legit, but honestly I never had it verified by anyone. I see multiple stamped letters on various spots, but should all the letters be the same? I have letters C, P, D, H,,,, does this indicate a parts gun, or a bunch of replacement parts?

 

[johan_steele]

After reading the recent ongoing remington new model thread, and learning a few things from the posts, it led me to look at my own new model 44. I never gave it much thought other than hoping it was all legit, but honestly I never had it verified by anyone. I see multiple stamped letters on various spots, but should all the letters be the same? I have letters C, P, D, H,,,, does this indicate a parts gun, or a bunch of replacement parts?

A picture is worth a thousand words. More pictures are better.

 

[Jack7171]

 

[bayonet]

Wow that serial # is really high and according to Flayderman's it should say NEW MODEL on the barrel. Got me? More knowledge folks here can jump in here hopefully.

 

[Bonedaddy]

All the different letters mean several inspectors gave their final approval for each part. Yours is a military model as evidenced by the inspector marks and the cartouche on the wood. It says New Model on the barrel but the marking has worn but I believe some of it is still there. The chart I have for production dates indicate the time frame in 1864 was #113461-#124350. So you have a military model Remington made during the civil war era and that's a good thing. I would be proud to own it. Thanks for showing.

 

[bayonet]

All the different letters mean several inspectors gave their final approval for each part. Yours is a military model as evidenced by the inspector marks and the cartouche on the wood. It says New Model on the barrel but the marking has worn but I believe some of it is still there. The chart I have for production dates indicate the time frame in 1864 was #113461-#124350. So you have a military model Remington made during the civil war era and that's a good thing. I would be proud to own it. Thanks for showing.

I need some glasses, I don't even see a trace of NEW MODEL on that barrel. And if so why is the rest of the address plainly clear but the NEW MODEL isn't?

 

[Bonedaddy]

It's there but very light. I had to expand it some to see it. The EW in N is gone but the MODEL is full but with very light letters in the metal. My only guess was that as the result of holstering and unholstering the revolver for so many years, it had more wear in that particular spot. I have an 1862 Whitney Navy revolver and part of the E. Whitney letters are worn but the N. Haven letters are strong on it. Mine also is worn on one side of the muzzle due to many ins and outs of the holster for many years.

 

[Bonedaddy]

The Whitney described above.

 

[Jack7171]

All the different letters mean several inspectors gave their final approval for each part. Yours is a military model as evidenced by the inspector marks and the cartouche on the wood. It says New Model on the barrel but the marking has worn but I believe some of it is still there. The chart I have for production dates indicate the time frame in 1864 was #113461-#124350. So you have a military model Remington made during the civil war era and that's a good thing. I would be proud to own it. Thanks for showing.

Thank you! So the different letters just represent different inspectors,, I understand now,,I was hoping all the letters didn't need to match, once I saw the different ones, all I could think of was that I had a frankenvolver made up of non letter matching parts slapped together

 

[Jack7171]

I need some glasses, I don't even see a trace of NEW MODEL on that barrel. And if so why is the rest of the address plainly clear but the NEW MODEL isn't?

It's much more worn on that part of the barrel, maybe because it's closter to the edge?

 

[bayonet]

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It's much more worn on that part of the barrel, maybe because it's closter to the edge?

Oh my bad, now I see it but it's below the address where mine is after the address closer to the frame (pic posted earlier in another Remington thread). Interesting that they stamped NEW MODEL at different locations on the barrel.

 

[Jack7171]

Oh my bad, now I see it but it's below the address where mine is after the address closer to the frame (pic posted earlier in another Remington thread). Interesting that they stamped NEW MODEL at different locations on the barrel.

Yep, I noticed that different location, which one of a few things I was questioning about mine,,

 

[FiremarshalBill]

Mine has the NEW MODEL stamped below the address (serial number 50250).

 

[ConfederateCanuck]

Thank you! So the different letters just represent different inspectors,, I understand now,,I was hoping all the letters didn't need to match, once I saw the different ones, all I could think of was that I had a frankenvolver made up of non letter matching parts slapped together

There will always be a mix of inspection letters. Your gun looks totally legit! The other place you will find a serial number is inside of the wooden grips, on the metal of the backstrap. Somebody here on the Forums can tell you the name of the military inspector whose cartouche is stamped into the wood. I don't believe I have that info handy, and I can never decipher "ye olde" fancy letter shapes. Your gun was made only about 100,000 guns after mine .

Your gun was made in December, 1864, according to published charts (approximately Dec-19, giver or take a couple days, if you prorate the production). Just in time for Christmas....did it feel like Christmas when you got the gun? I bet it did!

 

[Jack7171]

There will always be a mix of inspection letters. Your gun looks totally legit! The other place you will find a serial number is inside of the wooden grips, on the metal of the backstrap. Somebody here on the Forums can tell you the name of the military inspector whose cartouche is stamped into the wood. I don't believe I have that info handy, and I can never decipher "ye olde" fancy letter shapes. Your gun was made only about 100,000 guns after mine .

Your gun was made in December, 1864, according to published charts (approximately Dec-19, giver or take a couple days, if you prorate the production). Just in time for Christmas....did it feel like Christmas when you got the gun? I bet it did!

Yep! It only took me 54 Christmas's to get one lol

 

[JOHN42768]

The Remington cartouche is OWA for Orville W. Ainsworth

 

[ConfederateCanuck]

Yep! It only took me 54 Christmas's to get one lol

Took me just about the same number of Christmas's.