Peace effort 1862

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Hi, I collect historical letters. Recently, I picked up a letter from a Union soldier, dated October 26, 1862, at Camp Allen, Suffolk, Virginia. There is a very interesting passage in it, which I've tried to research, but have run into a dead end. Does anyone know about this peace effort that the writer describes? Here is the passage, in his spelling:

I was on picket last monday and there was two men came through here that was from Richmond / they were going to washing(ton) for the purpose of seeing what they can do towards setling up this war / they said they would have to stay until congress sets and if it does not take to long to elect a speaker they can setle the mater / they were both French Gentlemen / I saw some of their documents / they were escorted by a lot of cavalry / they had a pass that carried them through to Washington / they said there were six more men on diferent roads going to meet them at washington / I think this war will last as long as there is a man left in the rebel army /

The writer seems really sure about what he saw. Anybody ever hear about this?
 
Welcome to the forum! This is news to me, but I'll be looking forward to hearing what others say about it.
 
Interesting find. "Last Monday" would have been October 20. There was a resolution right around that time in the Confederate congress to seek a peaceful resolution to the war, so these travelers may be connected to that.
 
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HARPER'S WEEKLY.
SATURDAY, DECEMBER 6, 1862.
THE FRENCH PROPOSAL TO
MEDIATE.

MONSIEUR DROUYN DE L'HUYS, the new French Minister of State, appears to have inaugurated his accession to power by a proposal addressed to the British and Russian Governments, to the effect that they should mediate in our war. We are not yet in possession of the precise terms of the proposal. But we gather fromEarl Russell's reply that the French Government, anxious to avert further effusion of blood, and further sufferings by the working-classes in Europe, proposed to the British and Russian Governments that they should jointly tender their good offices as mediators to the Government atWashington, and simultaneously to the insurgents at Richmond, with a view to ascertain whether some adjustment of the pending strife could not be discovered. It does not appear that the French offer went beyond this, for Earl Russell in his reply observes that "a refusal from Washington at the present time would prevent any speedy renewal of the offer of the Government:" from which it may fairly be inferred that it was not proposed to follow up unsuccessful attempts to mediate by armed intervention.

This proposal Great Britain declined to entertain, as appears by a dispatch from Earl Russell dated November 13; for the reason that "there is no ground at the present moment to hope that the Federal Government would accept the proposal suggested." Russia would appear to have simultaneously declined to act upon the French suggestions, though the Czar seems to have promised to support any endeavors which may be made by England and France.

Upon these replies the Moniteur, the official organ of the French Government, remarks that they settle the question of mediation for the present.

We have thus, in any event, a further breathing spell, during which, if we are alive to the emergency, and true to ourselves, we may do enough toward the suppression of the rebellion to secure another and a final adjournment of the mediation scheme.

For our part we have never regarded the foreign intervention bugbear with much concern, nor do we now. Diplomatic offers to mediate will possess no more practical importance than the speeches of Mr. John Van Buren to our "wayward sisters." The only thing we have ever had to fear is actual armed intervention with armies and fleets; and that, at the present time, would be at least as perilous to the nations intervening as to ourselves. Our navy is rapidly assuming proportions, both in regard to the class and the number of the vessels composing it, which will enable us to cope with the combined navies of Europe. Before any combined European military and naval expedition could be got ready and sent across the Atlantic, there is reason to believe that we shall be in possession of every port where they could effect a landing with a view to ulterior operations. We are in a very different position now from what we were when theTrent affairoccurred. And though European intervention would of course protract the war, and render our task more severe than it is, it would do at least as much injury to the powers which intervened as to us. If they bombarded Portland, we might bombard Liverpool. If they captured our ships, we should capture theirs. They might try to send the Warrior to "lie broadside to the streets of New York and Hoboken," and she might get there, or not, as the affair turned out. But we know that Farragut could do in the Thames what he did in the Mississippi, and steam up to London Bridge with a fleet of impregnable iron-clads. So of the French. They might do us a vast deal of mischief, no doubt. But if the war began, we fancy that a good many French ports would be demolished before it ended; the tubs baptized La Gloire and La Normandie would have gone to their last reckoning under the 15-inch shot of our Monitors; and the brave little French army in Mexico would never see la belle France again. Would the game be worth the candle in either case? We think not, and therefore we have never believed in foreign armed intervention. Both England and France know too well what war costs to rush into it without a well-defined and substantial object.

It has been a great misfortune for this country that the Emperor of the French, who is a fair man and naturally well disposed toward the United States, should have been represented here ever since the war began by Monsieur Mercier—a man heartily hostile to us and to our institutions, and cordially friendly to the rebels and their institutions. So little discretion has this Frenchman possessed that he has never made the least secret of his sympathy with the rebels. He has poured into every ear to which he had access his confident predictions of the success of the rebellion, and his joy at the prospect. He has been the foremost of the rebel sympathizers at Washington in deriding our troops, vilifying our Government, sneering at our generals, and eulogizing our enemies. Not even the knaves who abuse us at so much a column in the London Times have been more malevolent and more basely unjust than this French embassador. Equally forgetful of the traditions of his own country and of the respect he owed to ours, as a foreign minister resident here, he has made himself prominent for two years as an apologist for slavery, a foe to freedom, and an ally of the worst enemies the French ever had. We have reason to know—what can be readily believed—that this man's dispatches to his Government have uniformly accorded with his conversation in society. If the Emperor has relied upon him for information about this country, he may honestly believe that all hopes of the restoration of the Union are ended; that the North is on the eve of exhaustion; that our armies will not fight; that our generals do not know how to lead them; that the South is stronger than ever; that theirs is the cause of justice and right, and ours the cause of wrong and oppression. Some of these representations may have been corrected by Mr. Dayton. But there must still have remained a sufficient number uncorrected to create a bias in the Emperor's mind. We do not believe that the Emperor will ever pursue any policy which may have the effect of introducing into the family of nations a state "based on the corner-stone of human slavery." But we might have enjoyed more active sympathy from our old ally, France, had she not been represented here, at this critical time, by a man equally devoid of political wisdom and moral convictions, and possessing neither the decency to refrain from making his embassy a head-quarters for rebel sympathizers, nor the self-respect to withdraw from a court where he is universally and intensely hated and despised.

For us, this mediation scheme should teach us one lesson, and one only—to hasten the work of putting down the rebellion. There is not an hour to be lost. Every day wasted byBurnside, Rosecrans, Grant, McClernand, Banks, Porter, Farragut, and Dupont increases the danger of foreign troubles. If the winter passes without very substantial gains by the Union arms, the suffering poor of Europe, the hostile aristocrats of England, and the rebel sympathizers in France will revive the mediation scheme in the spring, perhaps in a more menacing shape than it has yet assumed. The present is ours: let us use it. The future is in the hands of Fate.
 
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I found this article:

AN ABSURD STORY.

Published: October 1, 1862

Correspondence of the Philadelphia Inquirer.

WASHINGTON, Monday, Sept. 29.

It is rumored here to-day that the reason of the existing quietude on the part of both armies on the Upper Potomac is, that Commissioners are now either in or on their way to Washington, sent by the Confederate Congress to procure terms of peace. These Commissioners are appointed by a resolution introduced by FOOTE, and acted upon by the rebel Congress. In a speech made upon presenting the petition, FOOTE stated plainly the desperate plight the Confederacy is now in and said that, as starvation is already staring them in the face, something must be done to stop this war other than fighting.

The terms of peace which they propose is, as I understand it, somewhat as follows: The loyal States are to take all the Territories, Missouri, Tennessee, Kentucky and Maryland, and to make them Free or Slave States, as may best please them. The Cotton States are to be permitted to have a Congress of their own, to regulate their own domestic affairs only. In all other things to be again as one and an inseparable people. For defensive and offensive operations against other countries to be a unity. In all matters of postal and revenue service to be as heretofore, pledging to return all Government property to us as they found it. They, in addition to having us recognize their authority to have this Congress, to regulate their peculiar institutions, are to be permitted Senators and Representatives in our Halls of Congress, but only in such numbers as their free white population is entitled to.



http://www.nytimes.com/1862/10/01/news/an-absurd-story.html
 
This is really helpful! I wonder if anything came of their effort. I have another mysterious passage in a different letter, which I'll post soon. Thanks for all your help.
 
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HARPER'S WEEKLY.
SATURDAY, DECEMBER 6, 1862.
THE FRENCH PROPOSAL TO
MEDIATE.

MONSIEUR DROUYN DE L'HUYS, the new French Minister of State, appears to have inaugurated his accession to power by a proposal addressed to the British and Russian Governments, to the effect that they should mediate in our war. We are not yet in possession of the precise terms of the proposal. But we gather fromEarl Russell's reply that the French Government, anxious to avert further effusion of blood, and further sufferings by the working-classes in Europe, proposed to the British and Russian Governments that they should jointly tender their good offices as mediators to the Government atWashington, and simultaneously to the insurgents at Richmond, with a view to ascertain whether some adjustment of the pending strife could not be discovered. It does not appear that the French offer went beyond this, for Earl Russell in his reply observes that "a refusal from Washington at the present time would prevent any speedy renewal of the offer of the Government:" from which it may fairly be inferred that it was not proposed to follow up unsuccessful attempts to mediate by armed intervention.

This proposal Great Britain declined to entertain, as appears by a dispatch from Earl Russell dated November 13; for the reason that "there is no ground at the present moment to hope that the Federal Government would accept the proposal suggested." Russia would appear to have simultaneously declined to act upon the French suggestions, though the Czar seems to have promised to support any endeavors which may be made by England and France.

Upon these replies the Moniteur, the official organ of the French Government, remarks that they settle the question of mediation for the present.

We have thus, in any event, a further breathing spell, during which, if we are alive to the emergency, and true to ourselves, we may do enough toward the suppression of the rebellion to secure another and a final adjournment of the mediation scheme.

For our part we have never regarded the foreign intervention bugbear with much concern, nor do we now. Diplomatic offers to mediate will possess no more practical importance than the speeches of Mr. John Van Buren to our "wayward sisters." The only thing we have ever had to fear is actual armed intervention with armies and fleets; and that, at the present time, would be at least as perilous to the nations intervening as to ourselves. Our navy is rapidly assuming proportions, both in regard to the class and the number of the vessels composing it, which will enable us to cope with the combined navies of Europe. Before any combined European military and naval expedition could be got ready and sent across the Atlantic, there is reason to believe that we shall be in possession of every port where they could effect a landing with a view to ulterior operations. We are in a very different position now from what we were when theTrent affairoccurred. And though European intervention would of course protract the war, and render our task more severe than it is, it would do at least as much injury to the powers which intervened as to us. If they bombarded Portland, we might bombard Liverpool. If they captured our ships, we should capture theirs. They might try to send the Warrior to "lie broadside to the streets of New York and Hoboken," and she might get there, or not, as the affair turned out. But we know that Farragut could do in the Thames what he did in the Mississippi, and steam up to London Bridge with a fleet of impregnable iron-clads. So of the French. They might do us a vast deal of mischief, no doubt. But if the war began, we fancy that a good many French ports would be demolished before it ended; the tubs baptized La Gloire and La Normandie would have gone to their last reckoning under the 15-inch shot of our Monitors; and the brave little French army in Mexico would never see la belle France again. Would the game be worth the candle in either case? We think not, and therefore we have never believed in foreign armed intervention. Both England and France know too well what war costs to rush into it without a well-defined and substantial object.

It has been a great misfortune for this country that the Emperor of the French, who is a fair man and naturally well disposed toward the United States, should have been represented here ever since the war began by Monsieur Mercier—a man heartily hostile to us and to our institutions, and cordially friendly to the rebels and their institutions. So little discretion has this Frenchman possessed that he has never made the least secret of his sympathy with the rebels. He has poured into every ear to which he had access his confident predictions of the success of the rebellion, and his joy at the prospect. He has been the foremost of the rebel sympathizers at Washington in deriding our troops, vilifying our Government, sneering at our generals, and eulogizing our enemies. Not even the knaves who abuse us at so much a column in the London Times have been more malevolent and more basely unjust than this French embassador. Equally forgetful of the traditions of his own country and of the respect he owed to ours, as a foreign minister resident here, he has made himself prominent for two years as an apologist for slavery, a foe to freedom, and an ally of the worst enemies the French ever had. We have reason to know—what can be readily believed—that this man's dispatches to his Government have uniformly accorded with his conversation in society. If the Emperor has relied upon him for information about this country, he may honestly believe that all hopes of the restoration of the Union are ended; that the North is on the eve of exhaustion; that our armies will not fight; that our generals do not know how to lead them; that the South is stronger than ever; that theirs is the cause of justice and right, and ours the cause of wrong and oppression. Some of these representations may have been corrected by Mr. Dayton. But there must still have remained a sufficient number uncorrected to create a bias in the Emperor's mind. We do not believe that the Emperor will ever pursue any policy which may have the effect of introducing into the family of nations a state "based on the corner-stone of human slavery." But we might have enjoyed more active sympathy from our old ally, France, had she not been represented here, at this critical time, by a man equally devoid of political wisdom and moral convictions, and possessing neither the decency to refrain from making his embassy a head-quarters for rebel sympathizers, nor the self-respect to withdraw from a court where he is universally and intensely hated and despised.

For us, this mediation scheme should teach us one lesson, and one only—to hasten the work of putting down the rebellion. There is not an hour to be lost. Every day wasted byBurnside, Rosecrans, Grant, McClernand, Banks, Porter, Farragut, and Dupont increases the danger of foreign troubles. If the winter passes without very substantial gains by the Union arms, the suffering poor of Europe, the hostile aristocrats of England, and the rebel sympathizers in France will revive the mediation scheme in the spring, perhaps in a more menacing shape than it has yet assumed. The present is ours: let us use it. The future is in the hands of Fate.
Did Lincoln declare Mercier "persona non grata" and expel him from the country which is the presidents right? Harpres Weekly did accurately predict that no European nation would join the CSA in making war on the USA.
Leftyhunter
 
The information about Henri Mercier is a possible solution to what the writer of my letter saw while he was on picket duty on October 20, 1862. I'll look into Mercier's activities a bit. Here's the other mysterious letter I have. It's an 1862 handwritten letter from Confederate Secretary of War George Randolph to Alfred Paul, French Consul to the Confederate government in Richmond. In full, it reads:

Saturday Evening,
Mons. A. Paul,
French Consul,
Dear Sir,
The Courier from Genl Lee has not arrived, I have therefore nothing new to communicate.
Very Respectfully,
Your Obt. Sevt.
George W. Randolph

Very cryptic content! There is no month or day date. I've dated it 1862 based on the recipient's docket on the back. It's hard not to assume that "Genl Lee" was none other than Robert E. Lee. A courier was coming from him to the Secretary of War. What was being communicated from General Lee, through Randolph, to the French Consul?
 
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Another letter I acquired recently is from Union General Edgar M. Gregory, written to his daughter on April 26, 1865. Gregory was known as an ardent abolitionist. The letter is written from his post guarding the railroad 20 miles east of Petersburg, Virginia. He states, in part, "I have a fine Black boy, given to me by his Mother at the house where Lee made his formal surrender." I know that Wilmer McLean, the owner of the farm in Appomattox, was a slaveholder, so there would have been slave children around. But I find no reference in Gregory's biographical information that he took possession of a slave child. I guess it could have been temporary--some help around the camp, but it sure is odd language for an abolitionist! Anybody know anything about this?
 
Another letter I acquired recently is from Union General Edgar M. Gregory, written to his daughter on April 26, 1865. Gregory was known as an ardent abolitionist. The letter is written from his post guarding the railroad 20 miles east of Petersburg, Virginia. He states, in part, "I have a fine Black boy, given to me by his Mother at the house where Lee made his formal surrender." I know that Wilmer McLean, the owner of the farm in Appomattox, was a slaveholder, so there would have been slave children around. But I find no reference in Gregory's biographical information that he took possession of a slave child. I guess it could have been temporary--some help around the camp, but it sure is odd language for an abolitionist! Anybody know anything about this?

Can you quote more of the letter, so that we can see the quote in its context?
 
Can you quote more of the letter, so that we can see the quote in its context?
Sure--here's more. My Precious Daughter, We are guarding railroad 7 miles all quiet and peaceful. Among ignorant people. The blacks know about the same as the whites. Nothing of interest among us. I propose to go to Petersburg and Richmond in a few days takes 2 hours to go to Richmond. Our quarters are good in tents. The people seemed glad that there is a prospect of peace generally out of food and are coming in crowds asking breada poor miserable set of indolent people. Thousands of slaves of all complexions they act well and appear willing to work. No guerillas about. My brigade in fine condition good men and some poor officers. I shall be home as soon as matters settle down. We get nothing official from Johnston's army. There will be some changes in the army. My officers are out fishing today hope they will be successful. I have a fine Black boy given to me by his mother at the house where Lee made his formal surrender. He is a fine boy........... My judgment is the war is about at an end......... The rebellion is used up and the end of the war is near at hand. Our leading spirits have done some things that I would not of done with the traitors. Traitors in my judgment should not wear shorts or carry arms. Leading traitors should be executed according to law. I would not worry anymore about the death of our loved President. He has gone to his eternal home......... God has permitted this hellish murder........ The system of slavery will qualify man to do the darkest deeds known to the dark regions of the damned......... The country is full of Negroes the poor whites are the hardest looking set you ever saw.......... I would feed the hungry scoundrels but they must not throw their tobacco spit about my tent nor breathe one word of secession doctrine on my premises. I have advised two of them when they complained our soldiers had taken their hogs that our soldiers had not robbed the dead or starved their prisoners of war nor murdered the honest president of the country and they had. They asked me if I charge these damning crimes upon them I replied I charge it up on all that have sustained the damning rebellion caused by the slaveholders of the South. They are the most uncouth lank dark-haired ill looking set of people I ever saw. The women most all chew and smoke immoderately they talk war and say the poor people have had to do all the fighting. A rich man's war and a poor man's fight.

That's pretty much the whole letter. Thanks for your interest.
 
Sure--here's more. My Precious Daughter, We are guarding railroad 7 miles all quiet and peaceful. Among ignorant people. The blacks know about the same as the whites. Nothing of interest among us. I propose to go to Petersburg and Richmond in a few days takes 2 hours to go to Richmond. Our quarters are good in tents. The people seemed glad that there is a prospect of peace generally out of food and are coming in crowds asking breada poor miserable set of indolent people. Thousands of slaves of all complexions they act well and appear willing to work. No guerillas about. My brigade in fine condition good men and some poor officers. I shall be home as soon as matters settle down. We get nothing official from Johnston's army. There will be some changes in the army. My officers are out fishing today hope they will be successful. I have a fine Black boy given to me by his mother at the house where Lee made his formal surrender. He is a fine boy........... My judgment is the war is about at an end......... The rebellion is used up and the end of the war is near at hand. Our leading spirits have done some things that I would not of done with the traitors. Traitors in my judgment should not wear shorts or carry arms. Leading traitors should be executed according to law. I would not worry anymore about the death of our loved President. He has gone to his eternal home......... God has permitted this hellish murder........ The system of slavery will qualify man to do the darkest deeds known to the dark regions of the ****ed......... The country is full of Negroes the poor whites are the hardest looking set you ever saw.......... I would feed the hungry scoundrels but they must not throw their tobacco spit about my tent nor breathe one word of secession doctrine on my premises. I have advised two of them when they complained our soldiers had taken their hogs that our soldiers had not robbed the dead or starved their prisoners of war nor murdered the honest president of the country and they had. They asked me if I charge these ****ing crimes upon them I replied I charge it up on all that have sustained the ****ing rebellion caused by the slaveholders of the South. They are the most uncouth lank dark-haired ill looking set of people I ever saw. The women most all chew and smoke immoderately they talk war and say the poor people have had to do all the fighting. A rich man's war and a poor man's fight.

That's pretty much the whole letter. Thanks for your interest.

Thanks for posting that. Interesting letter. Wish I could say that it sheds more light on your question though. Unfortunately there's still not enough there to go on. I did a little quick research on the author and couldn't find any info on him before the war either (although there's quite a bit about him after the war). My guess - and it's only a guess - is that he means the boy's mother entrusted him to the care of the General (why, I have no idea), and the General accepted him into the care of his command as he would any refugee or former slave that came into their jurisdiction.
 
Thanks for posting that. Interesting letter. Wish I could say that it sheds more light on your question though. Unfortunately there's still not enough there to go on. I did a little quick research on the author and couldn't find any info on him before the war either (although there's quite a bit about him after the war). My guess - and it's only a guess - is that he means the boy's mother entrusted him to the care of the General (why, I have no idea), and the General accepted him into the care of his command as he would any refugee or former slave that came into their jurisdiction.
 
It is a great letter. Thanks for your comments. Gregory was an ardent abolitionist, and his lumberyard in pre-war Cincinnati was a reputed Underground Railroad station. After the war he was with the Freedmens Bureau in Texas. I think you are right, that the boy's mother entrusted her son to the care of the General. It was probably just a temporary thing--and the boy might have just helped out around the camp doing odd jobs. His mother might have seen an opportunity to curry favor with the General and give her son something constructive to do. It may have been that Gregory was almost boasting to his daughter that the local slave populace looked at him as some sort of savior. As the 7-page letter progresses, you can see how the pace and structure of his handwriting changes as he gets more and more worked up in his mind against the South and its leaders and population. His handwriting gets more hurried and messy towards the end.
 
1860 Census Slave Schedule from Prince William County, Virginia, listing the 17 slaves (there is a two year old female on the next sheet) of Wilmer McLean. None are named - typical of the pre-War censuses.
 

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