Ironclad Passaic Central Section

Hello Everyone!

I apologize as I am certain this question is very well covered, I just struggled to find it in the search. The slides below are excerpts from my research presentation.

I am looking for the blueprints or known layout of the Passaic Class Ironclads. I have assembled a large number of photos from the Camanche, Catskill, & USS Monitor but I have not found anything that directly explains how the turret functioned with the dual spindle.

The model of the Passaic at Ships of the Seas in Savanah is beautiful but even talking to volunteers I have not been able to get photos of that model without tremendous glare from the lights and glass.

Does anyone know how they physically/ mechanically worked?

Thank you!

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Not sure any of this will help...

Plan of turret for Passaic class monitors

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...from Monitors of the U.S. Navy, 1861-1937, Volume 2 by Richard H. Webber

Difference between Coles and Ericsson turrets
thefourthmaninaboat
Sep 3, 2014

Both turrets seem fairly similar in outwards appearance; both are cylindrical iron constructions, containing one or two guns. The difference between the two systems came in how they were supported and rotated. The Ericsson turret sat on the upper deck, standing eight-nine feet clear of the deck. It rotated around a central spindle which pivoted in the hold; this supported the weight of the turret in action. The Coles turret pierced through the upper deck, resting instead on the lower deck. It therefore had a lower profile, standing only four feet clear of the deck. The edges of the turret sat on a roller path on the lower deck, letting the turret as a whole rotate.

These two systems had different advantages and disadvantages. For the Ericsson system, the spindle imposed two main constraints on the turret. Firstly, the spindle was in the centre of the turret. This meant that any penetration through to the lower decks had to be off centre, and therefore could not be accessed throughout the full range of the turret's rotation. This limited the crew's ability to access the turret, and to pass ammunition - typically, the crew of an Ericsson turret had to rotate it to the centreline to pass new ammunition into the turret, slowing the already glacial pace of reloading for muzzle-loading guns. This was not a problem for the Coles turret. As this was supported at the edges, the turret centre was always available for shells to be passed through. The spindle was also not in constant operation. When the ship was not in action, the turret stayed in contact with the deck. Prior to going into action, the spindle and turret had to be jacked up by about an inch to allow the turret to rotate. This imposed a delay, which could by a problem if a ship was surprised. The gap created by the raising of the turret also meant that enemy shells could jam the turret if they impacted its base. The base of the Coles turret was protected, and the turret needed little preparation for action. The Coles turret, meanwhile, required more precise engineering than the Ericsson. As the turret passed through the upper deck, and did not sit on it, it also created paths for water to leak into the ship. These leak paths could be blocked with canvas for long passages, but it still remained a problem in action.



Monitor's turret measured 20 ft (6.1 m) in diameter and 9 ft (2.7 m) high, constructed with 8 inches (20 cm) of armor (11 inches in front at the gun ports) rendering the overall vessel somewhat top heavy. Its rounded shape helped to deflect cannon shot.[33][34] A pair of steam-powered donkey engines rotated the turret through a set of gears; a full rotation was made in 22.5 seconds during testing on 9 February 1862.[35] Fine control of the turret proved to be difficult; as there was no brake the steam engines would have to be placed in reverse if the turret overshot its mark, or another full rotation would have to be made. The only way to see out of the turret was through the gun ports; when the guns were not in use, or withdrawn for reloading during battle, heavy iron port stoppers would swing down into place to close the gunports.[36] Including the guns, the turret weighed approximately 160 long tons (163 t); the entire weight rested on an iron spindle that had to be jacked up using a wedge before the turret could rotate.[37] The spindle was 9 inches (23 cm) in diameter which gave it ten times the strength needed in preventing the turret from sliding sideways.[38] When not in use, the turret rested on a brass ring on the deck that was intended to form a watertight seal. In service, however, this proved to leak heavily, despite caulking by the crew.[37] The gap between the turret and the deck proved to be a problem as debris and shell fragments entered the gap and jammed the turrets of several Passaic-class monitors, which used the same turret design, during the First Battle of Charleston Harbor in April 1863.[39] Direct hits on the turret with heavy shot could bend the spindle, which could also jam the turret.[40] To gain access to the turret from below, or to hoist up powder and shot during battle, the turret had to rotate to face starboard, which would line up the entry hatch in the floor of the turret with an opening in the deck below.[41][42] The roof of the turret was lightly built to facilitate any needed exchange of the ship's guns and to improve ventilation, with only gravity holding the roof plates in place.[43]

...from wiki but sourced from...

Baxter, James Phinney, 3rd (1968) [1933]. The Introduction of the Ironclad Warship. Hamden, Connecticut: Archon Books. OCLC 695838727.

Broadwater, John D. (2012). USS Monitor: A Historic Ship Completes Its Final Voyage. Texas A&M University Press. ISBN 978-1-60344-473-6.

Canney, Donald L. (1993). The Old Steam Navy. Vol. 2: The Ironclads, 1842–1885. Annapolis, Maryland: Naval Institute Press. ISBN 978-0-87021-586-5.

Clancy, Paul (2013). Ironclad; The Epic Battle, Calamitous Loss, and Historic Recovery of the USS Monitor. New York: Koehler Books. ISBN 978-1-938467-11-0.

McCordock, Robert Stanley (1938). The Yankee Cheese Box. Dorrance.

Mindell, David A. (2000). War, Technology, and Experience Aboard the USS Monitor. Johns Hopkins University Press. ISBN 978-0-8018-6250-2.

Thompson, Stephen C. (1990). "The Design and Construction of the USS Monitor". Warship International. XXVII (3). ISSN 0043-0374.

Wilson, H. W. (1896). Ironclads in Action: A Sketch of Naval Warfare From 1855 to 1895. Vol. 1. Boston: Little, Brown.

HTHs,
USS ALASKA
 
Not sure any of this will help...

Plan of turret for Passaic class monitors

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...from Monitors of the U.S. Navy, 1861-1937, Volume 2 by Richard H. Webber

Difference between Coles and Ericsson turrets
thefourthmaninaboat
Sep 3, 2014

Both turrets seem fairly similar in outwards appearance; both are cylindrical iron constructions, containing one or two guns. The difference between the two systems came in how they were supported and rotated. The Ericsson turret sat on the upper deck, standing eight-nine feet clear of the deck. It rotated around a central spindle which pivoted in the hold; this supported the weight of the turret in action. The Coles turret pierced through the upper deck, resting instead on the lower deck. It therefore had a lower profile, standing only four feet clear of the deck. The edges of the turret sat on a roller path on the lower deck, letting the turret as a whole rotate.

These two systems had different advantages and disadvantages. For the Ericsson system, the spindle imposed two main constraints on the turret. Firstly, the spindle was in the centre of the turret. This meant that any penetration through to the lower decks had to be off centre, and therefore could not be accessed throughout the full range of the turret's rotation. This limited the crew's ability to access the turret, and to pass ammunition - typically, the crew of an Ericsson turret had to rotate it to the centreline to pass new ammunition into the turret, slowing the already glacial pace of reloading for muzzle-loading guns. This was not a problem for the Coles turret. As this was supported at the edges, the turret centre was always available for shells to be passed through. The spindle was also not in constant operation. When the ship was not in action, the turret stayed in contact with the deck. Prior to going into action, the spindle and turret had to be jacked up by about an inch to allow the turret to rotate. This imposed a delay, which could by a problem if a ship was surprised. The gap created by the raising of the turret also meant that enemy shells could jam the turret if they impacted its base. The base of the Coles turret was protected, and the turret needed little preparation for action. The Coles turret, meanwhile, required more precise engineering than the Ericsson. As the turret passed through the upper deck, and did not sit on it, it also created paths for water to leak into the ship. These leak paths could be blocked with canvas for long passages, but it still remained a problem in action.


Monitor's turret measured 20 ft (6.1 m) in diameter and 9 ft (2.7 m) high, constructed with 8 inches (20 cm) of armor (11 inches in front at the gun ports) rendering the overall vessel somewhat top heavy. Its rounded shape helped to deflect cannon shot.[33][34] A pair of steam-powered donkey engines rotated the turret through a set of gears; a full rotation was made in 22.5 seconds during testing on 9 February 1862.[35] Fine control of the turret proved to be difficult; as there was no brake the steam engines would have to be placed in reverse if the turret overshot its mark, or another full rotation would have to be made. The only way to see out of the turret was through the gun ports; when the guns were not in use, or withdrawn for reloading during battle, heavy iron port stoppers would swing down into place to close the gunports.[36] Including the guns, the turret weighed approximately 160 long tons (163 t); the entire weight rested on an iron spindle that had to be jacked up using a wedge before the turret could rotate.[37] The spindle was 9 inches (23 cm) in diameter which gave it ten times the strength needed in preventing the turret from sliding sideways.[38] When not in use, the turret rested on a brass ring on the deck that was intended to form a watertight seal. In service, however, this proved to leak heavily, despite caulking by the crew.[37] The gap between the turret and the deck proved to be a problem as debris and shell fragments entered the gap and jammed the turrets of several Passaic-class monitors, which used the same turret design, during the First Battle of Charleston Harbor in April 1863.[39] Direct hits on the turret with heavy shot could bend the spindle, which could also jam the turret.[40] To gain access to the turret from below, or to hoist up powder and shot during battle, the turret had to rotate to face starboard, which would line up the entry hatch in the floor of the turret with an opening in the deck below.[41][42] The roof of the turret was lightly built to facilitate any needed exchange of the ship's guns and to improve ventilation, with only gravity holding the roof plates in place.[43]

...from wiki but sourced from...

Baxter, James Phinney, 3rd (1968) [1933]. The Introduction of the Ironclad Warship. Hamden, Connecticut: Archon Books. OCLC 695838727.

Broadwater, John D. (2012). USS Monitor: A Historic Ship Completes Its Final Voyage. Texas A&M University Press. ISBN 978-1-60344-473-6.

Canney, Donald L. (1993). The Old Steam Navy. Vol. 2: The Ironclads, 1842–1885. Annapolis, Maryland: Naval Institute Press. ISBN 978-0-87021-586-5.

Clancy, Paul (2013). Ironclad; The Epic Battle, Calamitous Loss, and Historic Recovery of the USS Monitor. New York: Koehler Books. ISBN 978-1-938467-11-0.

McCordock, Robert Stanley (1938). The Yankee Cheese Box. Dorrance.

Mindell, David A. (2000). War, Technology, and Experience Aboard the USS Monitor. Johns Hopkins University Press. ISBN 978-0-8018-6250-2.

Thompson, Stephen C. (1990). "The Design and Construction of the USS Monitor". Warship International. XXVII (3). ISSN 0043-0374.

Wilson, H. W. (1896). Ironclads in Action: A Sketch of Naval Warfare From 1855 to 1895. Vol. 1. Boston: Little, Brown.

HTHs,
USS ALASKA
Everything helps! Thank you so much!
 
...and some free reading...

Ironclad Revolution: The History, Discovery and Recovery of the USS Monitor
Anna Gibson Holloway
College of William & Mary - Arts & Sciences

"IRRESISTIBLE MACHINES" : INDUSTRIAL MOBILIZATION FOR THE UNION NAVY 1861-1865
By William Howard Roberts, M.A.
Ohio State University

The Wrong Ship at the Right Time: The Technology of USS Monitor and its Impact on Naval Warfare
Larrie D. Ferreiro
George Mason University

PROJECT CHEESEBOX: A JOURNEY INTO HISTORY
A Research Manuscript
Department of History
United States Naval Academy
Annapolis, Maryland
Library of Congress Card Cat. #75-600011

The Construction of the U.S.S. Monitor
Stephen C. Thompson
Old Dominion University

Cheers,
USS ALASKA
 
...and some free reading...

Ironclad Revolution: The History, Discovery and Recovery of the USS Monitor
Anna Gibson Holloway
College of William & Mary - Arts & Sciences

"IRRESISTIBLE MACHINES" : INDUSTRIAL MOBILIZATION FOR THE UNION NAVY 1861-1865
By William Howard Roberts, M.A.
Ohio State University

The Wrong Ship at the Right Time: The Technology of USS Monitor and its Impact on Naval Warfare
Larrie D. Ferreiro
George Mason University

PROJECT CHEESEBOX: A JOURNEY INTO HISTORY
A Research Manuscript
Department of History
United States Naval Academy
Annapolis, Maryland
Library of Congress Card Cat. #75-600011

The Construction of the U.S.S. Monitor
Stephen C. Thompson
Old Dominion University

Cheers,
USS ALASKA
Good morning & Thank You very much!!
 
Journal Article
The Eads Steam-Powered Revolving Turret
Arnold A. Putnam
Warship International, Vol. 42, No. 3 (2005), pp. 302-317 (16 pages)

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Full article at above link on JSTOR with Google sign-in (In the upper right-hand corner of the linked page, there is a 'Log in' button. If you have a Gmail account, you have a Google sign-in and this will allow for free reading of 100 articles a month).

Cheers,
USS ALASKA
 
Journal Article
The Eads Steam-Powered Revolving Turret
Arnold A. Putnam
Warship International, Vol. 42, No. 3 (2005), pp. 302-317 (16 pages)

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Full article at above link on JSTOR with Google sign-in (In the upper right-hand corner of the linked page, there is a 'Log in' button. If you have a Gmail account, you have a Google sign-in and this will allow for free reading of 100 articles a month).

Cheers,
USS ALASKA
Thank you very much!!
 
I started to make a Passaic class monitor - the Catskill. I didn't get to the finish line, but this is how far I got. I'm impressed by the material you got together. I got a frightening amount of material that I hadn't even suspected existed when I was doing the digital model of the Tecumseh. I'll see if I can dig through some of it for you.
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I started to make a Passaic class monitor - the Catskill. I didn't get to the finish line, but this is how far I got. I'm impressed by the material you got together. I got a frightening amount of material that I hadn't even suspected existed when I was doing the digital model of the Tecumseh. I'll see if I can dig through some of it for you. View attachment 556530View attachment 556531
Good Morning!! These are great, thank you so much for sharing them! I would love to share my current research presentation; it is now almost 3-hundred pages long and available in a PDF for those interested. I have much to do as I am just now researching the officer's toilets, the speaking tubes, and of course the mechanical nature of the turrets and the steering apparatus.
 
Will anyone's endstate be 3D printable model plans?
I think there are already exterior print plans available, the USS Montauk's plans were digitized into a model a few years back and those are available online. I am wanting to design the interior compartments as a file as well.
 
In the description of photo NH 51953 the left gunport is described to be enlarged. I found 4 photos of other Passaic turrets and they do not have the same enlarged gunport, I imagine it was an attempt to increase range as the XV" couldn't extend out of the turret. I know they bored three individual holes for the gunports but I am not sure if they just raised the gunport or if they bored a fourth hole. Any other ideas?

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I am working on understanding the steering apparatus and have developed these slides. Anyone have any other knowledge or resources for the specific Passaic Class Steering apparatus gear box arrangements?

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Wasn't the odd gun ports due to the class having two different types of armament? They had an 11 inch and a 15 inch canon, at least initially.
All nine of the East coast Passaics had a mismatch turret arrangement that varied but the Sangamon is the only one that I have both an NHC/ NavSource description and three photos corroborating the special left gunport on Passaic number 6, the Sangamon. The other 4 turret photos show the two gunports at the same elevation/ cross section in the rivets. There are multiple newspaper accounts that detail the launching/ commissioning of these ships, an article from 11 Feb 1863 incorrectly annotates that the Sangamon had an XVIII" Dahgren!! That would have been enough to keep those pesky rebels up the James for sure.

The Philadelphia Inquirer; Pg. 3.
11 February 1863
(Newspapers.com)
 
Ok I actually need some help Ladies and Gentlemen. I have three options for what are feasible layouts for the Passaic Ironclads. I would love some feedback.
Option #1: matches the USS Passaic longitudinal model at the Ships of the Seas Maritime Museum in Savannah with a central passageway that connects the engine room to the berth deck through the turret chamber. Issues with this: Donald Canney states that the Canonicus Class were the first to design in actual bunks for the enlisted crew, which is corroborated by the illustration of the USS Montauk's berth deck with hammock hooks and the open concept living space we all dream of having (lol). That model indicates that the coal bunkers (the Passaic Class had a coal bunker capacity of approximately 150 tons or 6,000 fifty-pound bags, 50-tons larger than the USS Monitor) ran along the Frame 69 Bulkhead and not along the ships outer edges forward towards the berth deck (sorry for the complete lack of naval terminology on some things) such as indicated by the numerous depictions of the USS Monitors coal bunkers. The Savannah model has bunks in the berth deck area and the central passageway is outfitted with fire-fighting buckets. There is also one illustration of a "Tippecanoe" (Canonicus) Class monitor that shows a similar set-up to the Savannah model with the central passageway extending aft of the berth deck into the engine room. This model also does not match the well-known "transverse section of a sea-going monitor" illustration that indicates two passageways that went around the "box" turret chamber.

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Option #2: illustrates the layout with the coal bunkers running along the ships length and not along the bulkhead. This option more aligns with the aforementioned "transverse section of a sea-going monitor" with two passageways and an isolated turret chamber. Options 2 & 3 also are more aligned with the two known photos of the turret chambers (Catskill's and Camanche) which if you look closely there is not a passageway in the aft bulkhead but the piping and fixtures for steam, etc. are routed through it. If this is the correct orientation of the bunkers then what is indicated between the boilers and the turret chamber in the longitudinal section of the USS Montauk I used in the layout from Canney's book.
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Option #3: Gives us the same double passage but centralizes the coal bunker behind the turret chamber. This (somewhat) aligns with the wonderful illustration of the bulkheads in Donald Canney's Vol II of his "The Old Steam Navy- The Ironclads". This would also be more efficient for feeding the boilers out of the central hopper. This would change what appears to be stairs leading from a central passageway to a feed ramp from the hopper. The central hopper theory also matches the "transverse section" illustration as not indicating coal bunkers in the lateral portions of the hull.
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So I've got three amateur options that could still be wrong but I feel I am getting closer. I have the full set of the USS Montauks plans on order and hopefully they will arrive soon, but I have to assume that the model builder had the same plans...
 
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