Ordnance, Projectiles, Identification?

[Tolzer]

Ordnance, Projectiles, Identification?

Projectile #1
I think this is a Sabot Round
Weight: 2-lbs 7-3/4 ounce
Height: 6-1/2"
Circumference: 3-1/2"
Fuze hole

Projectile #2
I think this is a Rifled Round, Parrot Design
Weight: 2-lbs 4-3/4 ounce
Height: 8-3/4"
Circumference: 3"
Fuze hole

Projectile #3
Unknown
Weight: 2-lbs 1-1/4 ounce
Height: 6-3/4"
Circumference: 3"

Projectile #4
Unknown
Weight: 2-lbs, 3/4 ounce
Circumference: 14-1/2"
It does have a center seam.
Fuze hole

 

[UCVRelics]

The first one is a Hotchkiss, The second is a Read The third is an Archer and you need to check as the last one should weigh more than 2lbs if its 14 inch. It looks like a repop

 

[Tolzer]

Thanks much for the guidance!

The 4th (round ball) weighs in at 2 pounds and 3/4 of an ounce.

 

[redbob]

Could it possibly be 12 pounds and if so, it is a Confederate spherical ball.

 

[Tolzer]

Just verified the weight of the round one: 2 pounds and 3/4 of an ounce.

 

[redbob]

Just verified the weight of the round one: 2 pounds and 3/4 of an ounce.

I haven't the foggiest idea then.

 

[Dan Kohli]

looks like it loosely fits the the 12# shell description, at least as far as diameter goes, i might be a little on the larger side.

 

[bayonet]

Wait #4 is 14 1/2 inches circumference but only weighs 2 3/4 pounds? How is that possible? A possible grenade and someone jammed that metal/copper looking fuze into it?

 

[UCVRelics]

Thanks much for the guidance!

The 4th (round ball) weighs in at 2 pounds and 3/4 of an ounce.

it weighs 2 3/4 lb and is 14 inch?????? Is it 14 inchs?

 

[Dan Kohli]

it weighs 2 3/4 lb and is 14 inch?????? Is it 14 inchs?

That's the circumference, divid by pi to get the diameter of the ball. The diameter is 4.615 inches.

 

[iron bender]

I'm gonna step out on a limb here and say these are all reproductions. Please note weights on shells that should be in the 10lb area. These are cast repros with a paint job

 

[Tolzer]

I do see evidence of chipping and casting powder.

 

[iron bender]

3" Parrott 'brass' timed fuze holder has a chip on the bottom that shows this is cast resin. All have similar 'rust' color under the black paint. Still interesting and 1/5th the weight. My poor old wood floors on pier and beam are about to collapse from cannon ball/shell weight

 

[Dan Kohli]

Are most of the shell weights being thrown around include the bursting changes and propellant charge?

 

[67th Tigers]

The weights are off, but from dimensions...

1 is a 20 pdr Hotchkiss round with flame channels for a time fuse. Probably a case shot.

2 is a 10 pdr Parrott round, probably a percussion shell because it lacks flame channels.

3 looks like a 10 pdr Hotchkiss bolt missing the sabot.

4. is a 12 pdr case or shell.

 

[Tolzer]

Thanks to all that have responded. These are not my area of expertise.

 

[Gandycreek]

I'm gonna step out on a limb here and say these are all reproductions. Please note weights on shells that should be in the 10lb area. These are cast repros with a paint job

I thought the same thing at first glance. They all have the same patina.

 

[DoctorKingSchultz]

Ordnance, Projectiles, Identification?

Projectile #1
I think this is a Sabot Round
Weight: 2-lbs 7-3/4 ounce
Height: 6-1/2"
Circumference: 3-1/2"
Fuze hole

Projectile #2
I think this is a Rifled Round, Parrot Design
Weight: 2-lbs 4-3/4 ounce
Height: 8-3/4"
Circumference: 3"
Fuze hole

Projectile #3
Unknown
Weight: 2-lbs 1-1/4 ounce
Height: 6-3/4"
Circumference: 3"

Projectile #4
Unknown
Weight: 2-lbs, 3/4 ounce
Circumference: 14-1/2"
It does have a center seam.
Fuze hole

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Can I ask what you mean by "Sabot round" in comparison of the first projectile with the other two? All 3 from the top have sabots, and all three are rifle rounds.

 

[Tolzer]

That was my uneducated guess. These are not my area of expertise.