Brice's Crossroads Artillery Project

[StarkvilleCivilWarArsenal]

I am very proud to be a part of the Brice's Cross Road's Artillery Project Committee. Marking the artillery positions on the battlefield with cannon will fundamentally change the landscape and bring it to life. I encouage all of you to be part of the development of the battlefield as a gift to future generations.

Duffy Neubauer
Starkville Civil War Arsenal

 

[Stryker65]

Forrest had already captured two Singer-Nimick cannon from the 14th Indiana in December, 1862. If the two guns lost by the 14th Indiana at Brice's Crossroads were Singer-Nimicks; then that would account for four of the six that Fremont commissioned.

Is that on record?? If the 14th Indiana received all six Singer-Nimicks, that would be a major development in determining the battery's armament.

 

[redbob]

Is that on record?? If the 14th Indiana received all six Singer-Nimicks, that would be a major development in determining the battery's armament.

The one's captured in December are and I'm not sure how many they were issued. They certainly seemed to have had a hard time keeping them and for that, I'm sure that Captain Morton was grateful.

 

[redbob]

The one's captured in December are and I'm not sure how many they were issued. They certainly seemed to have had a hard time keeping them and for that, I'm sure that Captain Morton was grateful.

How to tell for sure that you have a Singer-Nimick, thanks to NH Civil War gal for this picture.

 

[UCVRelics]

The guns at Chickamauga.

 

[Dartmouth Down South]

Thanks everyone for the pics and information.
Extremely useful!

The biggest question still remaining is Company B, 2nd Illinois Light Artillery. The latest return available in "Arming the Suckers" is for the end of 1863 which states the battery had four 3.80inch rifles. We know they took 4 pieces with them to Brice's; we know they lost all four. Problem is the "captured list" from an earlier post states only two 3.80's captured and we know one of those was from Company E, 1st Illinois Light Artillery. So maybe the other was from B,2D IL LA, but can't find what else they may have had.

Thanks again everyone!

 

[Stryker65]

Thanks everyone for the pics and information.
Extremely useful!

The biggest question still remaining is Company B, 2nd Illinois Light Artillery. The latest return available in "Arming the Suckers" is for the end of 1863 which states the battery had four 3.80inch rifles. We know they took 4 pieces with them to Brice's; we know they lost all four. Problem is the "captured list" from an earlier post states only two 3.80's captured and we know one of those was from Company E, 1st Illinois Light Artillery. So maybe the other was from B,2D IL LA, but can't find what else they may have had.

Thanks again everyone!

Not an artillery expert, but according to Wikipedia the "James rifled 6-pounder" and the "3.8-inch James rifle" are the same exact gun.
As you said in your OP:

O.R. Captured list:
-1 = 3-inch steel gun, rifled
-2 = 3.8-inch James bronze guns, rifled
-2 = 12-pounder bronze howitzers
-3 = 12-pounder Napoleon bronze guns
-3 = 6-pounder James bronze guns, rifled
-5 = 6-pounder bronze guns

That would then mean that there were in fact five such guns captured. @redbob is this correct?

 

[redbob]

Not an artillery expert, but according to Wikipedia the "James rifled 6-pounder" and the "3.8-inch James rifle" are the same exact gun.
As you said in your OP:

That would then mean that there were in fact five such guns captured. @redbob is this correct?

I am far from being any type of expert on anything, but by doing your research and reasoning; it would certainly appear to be so. Well done and now let's wait for the counterpoints

 

[Dartmouth Down South]

Thanks to Stan Buckles (author of the regimental history of the 114th Illinois Infantry) we have for the first time what Co. B, 2nd Illinois Light Artillery had at the battle and new list of casualties from the unit!

They had -Two 6-pounder smoothbores and Two 12-pounder howitzers! See attached photo. Now if we could get any idea what Mueller's (6th Indiana Battery) two gun section had we can have a pretty educated guess for the rest! Thanks to everyone that has contributed to the research of this project but we aren't done yet!

 

[Stryker65]

Thanks to Stan Buckles (author of the regimental history of the 114th Illinois Infantry) we have for the first time what Co. B, 2nd Illinois Light Artillery had at the battle and new list of casualties from the unit!

They had -Two 6-pounder smoothbores and Two 12-pounder howitzers! See attached photo. Now if we could get any idea what Mueller's (6th Indiana Battery) two gun section had we can have a pretty educated guess for the rest! Thanks to everyone that has contributed to the research of this project but we aren't done yet!

@Dartmouth Down South:

As according to the battle report of Captain Michael Mueller, Sixth Indiana Light Battery, as given on page 188 of Supplement to the Official Records, Volume 7:
"During the night from June 10-11, I arrived in the swamp ... After working for about four hours, I found it impossible to get through. I had to abandon:
One James Rifle Gun, Calibre 3.80
One 6-pound smoothbore, Calibre 3.67 with caissons and implements.
I was ordered to gather the horses and to bring the wounded and worn out men along. I was compelled to leave, etc."

Does this complete the puzzle?

 

[Dartmouth Down South]

@Dartmouth Down South:

As according to the battle report of Captain Michael Mueller, Sixth Indiana Light Battery, as given on page 188 of Supplement to the Official Records, Volume 7:
"During the night from June 10-11, I arrived in the swamp ... After working for about four hours, I found it impossible to get through. I had to abandon:
One James Rifle Gun, Calibre 3.80
One 6-pound smoothbore, Calibre 3.67 with caissons and implements.
I was ordered to gather the horses and to bring the wounded and worn out men along. I was compelled to leave, etc."

Does this complete the puzzle?

Outstanding! Sorry for my late reply! Really fantastic work and this brings us on the precipice of 100 percent accuracy. Thank you so much.

 

[DixieRifles]

Bouton's Brigade (USCT)

-Co. F, 2nd USCLA, Captain C.A. Lamberg commanding (2 guns)
(Two??)

I dont know if this is the answer, but earlier Capt. Carl A. Lamberg was ordered to take a section of his battery to Fort Pillow. The historical markers inside the restored Inner Fort states his guns were 6-Lb James Rifles. I assume those guns came from his battery and were not some that were already at Fort Pillow.

And you might ask; What happened to Captain Lamberg and how did he escape from Fort Pillow??
Captain Lamberg was onboard the OLIVE BRANCH, which was returning from Memphis and he had la good observation of the battle while his men were killed or captured.