Off Topic split from How Should the Confederacy be Remembered?

[Henry Brown]

Birmingham, Alabama is a fast growing city that has this happening.

the book i mentioned will give you an idea how the people who fought and lived through the war remembered the confederacy, their efforts to perpetuate it even in defeat, and their efforts for it to be remembered in their own terms.

 

[leftyhunter]

Not in tet

Thanks for your response.
You may want to read my response again. Perhaps you missed the first sentence in my comment act where I responded directly to your statement, "Then Southern white politicians should... lead the way and show how eager they are for full racial equality.
I answered, "And they have."
Only then did I contrast the Southern efforts to promote racial equality with the unfortunate and often retrogressive efforts in some of our northern cities.

I dont know about all that there is a lot of controversy with voting rights to this day and there was a recent U.S. Supreme Court Case about racial gerrymandering in Georgia.
Southern politicians could of saved the South a lot of grief if they led the way during Reconstruction and afterwards. Now a days not so bad. Yes many Northern cities are in a bad way due to changing economies such has the end of traditional manufacturing. However there is still quite a bit of poverty in the South.
Leftyhunter

 

[WJC]

Not in tet

I dont know about all that there is a lot of controversy with voting rights to this day and there was a recent U.S. Supreme Court Case about racial gerrymandering in Georgia.
Southern politicians could of saved the South a lot of grief if they led the way during Reconstruction and afterwards. Now a days not so bad. Yes many Northern cities are in a bad way due to changing economies such has the end of traditional manufacturing. However there is still quite a bit of poverty in the South.
Leftyhunter

Thanks for your response.
Gerrymandering will probably be a point of contention as long as our republic exists. Today it is less about denying or undervaluing the vote of any racial group than a contest between the two major parties for power.
Poverty is not localized to the South.

 

[leftyhunter]

That's not what the Supreme Court found to be true. My point about highlighting cities in the South such has Atlanta os then we have to compare them to the rest of the South.
If we are going to praise modern Southern politicians which ones do you have in mind?
Leftyhunter

 

[WJC]

That's not what the Supreme Court found to be true. My point about highlighting cities in the South such has Atlanta os then we have to compare them to the rest of the South.
If we are going to praise modern Southern politicians which ones do you have in mind?
Leftyhunter

Thanks for your response.
I do not believe that I suggested praise for any "modern Southern politicians" in any of my responses to your original assertions. I have suggested that racial discrimination was a problem outside the South in the 1960s and 1970s. I referenced specifically Boston, but one could just as easily find discrimination elsewhere. And I have suggested that Southerners were quicker to respond to criticism than some of their Northern counterparts, mainly because the South was the original focus.
In my last response, I specifically noted the political power struggle as a basis for continuing gerrymandering legal challenges. That certainly can be attributed to politicians, wherever they are.

 

[WJC]

The North was INCREDIBLY racist, who are they kidding. My grandfather and mom were awful too, the stuff they said. It did not get close to racial equality until the later 70's in NW PA>

Thanks for your response.
To whom you are directing your response? If you will read this thread, you will find that I have been critical of the response of Northerners to their own racial discrimination. Your post confirms what I have previously posted.