Edged Wpns New Acquisitions

[gjpratt]

No one in the family was interested in them! Or the family line just died out? Sad either way, wish I had my ancestors sword that Aunt Elanor sold to a junk dealer (Tinker) in the 1930s

The former.

 

[gjpratt]

As Laura mentioned I'm a bit of an Iowa Civil War guy. The 1st Iowa is especially cool as they were the only 3 months regiment from Iowa. They fought bravely at Wilson's Creek in their tattered GRAY uniforms and returned home in newly issued gray uniforms following the battle. You can learn about these uniforms and find over 2700 images of identified Iowa soldiers in the "Iowa Civil War Images" Facebook group.

I happen to have an image of John Newton Beatty in my personal collection (the standing view in the CDV frame). There are also a few others in private collections as well. I've attached them here. Unfortunately I have not been able to locate an image of James H. Beatty, but I do have a couple unidentified images of line officers from the 4th Iowa Light Artillery….maybe one of those images is of James Beatty? In general, images of the 4th IA Light Artillery are exceedingly rare. View attachment 551590View attachment 551591View attachment 551592View attachment 551593View attachment 551594View attachment 551595

I am always in awe of the collective knowledge of CWT members. This one is gobsmacking, however. I never expected to receive anything like the actual images of one of the sword's owners. I am extremely grateful to @lelliott19 for making the connection (at 11:30 p.m.) and @Elias G. Jackson immediately compiling and posting (at midnight) all these wonderful, spectacular images. I know my seller had no other documents or records of his ancestors and certainly no images.

CWT at its finest!

 

[lelliott19]

making the connection (at 11:30 p.m.) and @Elias G. Jackson immediately compiling and posting (at midnight) all these wonderful, spectacular images.

As soon as I saw the post, I immediately sent a FB message to @Elias G. Jackson . He knows about almost every Iowan who enlisted so I felt sure he'd have something to add --- and he did!

Thank you so much Michael for weighing in. Even though it was nearly midnight.

 

[redbob]

I would not use the word "understanding."

When I tell my friends how "understanding " my wife is when I bring home another cannonball, they only shake their heads or laugh openly.

 

[R. Porter]

I would not use the word "understanding."

Well, you could always attempt to secede from the union claiming your rights. That might bring a response from the other half anbout ending slavery. We can pretty much guess the economic result of that conflict. So, perhaps the best result is some judicious political negotiation; unless you can find an external source of significant financial support. Then you could go through with dissolving the union and asserting your independence. After that everything would be great; you could collect to your heart's delight and you would be free to form a new union. This should be easy because there is no greater chick magnet than a Civil War relic collector!

It would have been a slam-dunk for the Confederate States if they just had that external benefactor who did not ever expect repayment.

On the other hand, if you did have an external source of significant income you might not need to consider secession.

Note: the external source of significant income should not be a person you have to murder to obtain said income.

 

[Elias G. Jackson]

I am always in awe of the collective knowledge of CWT members. This one is gobsmacking, however. I never expected to receive anything like the actual images of one of the sword's owners. I am extremely grateful to @lelliott19 for making the connection (at 11:30 p.m.) and @Elias G. Jackson immediately compiling and posting (at midnight) all these wonderful, spectacular images. I know my seller had no other documents or records of his ancestors and certainly no images.

CWT at its finest!

 

[Elias G. Jackson]

gjpratt. I sent you a private message. Check your CWT inbox.

 

[bayonet]

When I tell my friends how "understanding " my wife is when I bring home another cannonball, they only shake their heads or laugh openly.

oh but how happy she is when you sell an item and made a profit from it!

 

[redbob]

oh but how happy she is when you sell an item and made a profit from it!

You mean that you are supposed to sell something???What a novel concept.

 

[gjpratt]

Y'all asked for photos? Here you go.

 

[gjpratt]

Bayonet

 

[gjpratt]

Lt. John Newton Beatty's Ames M1850 foot offcer's sword.

 

[gjpratt]

Lt. James H. Beatty's Schuyler Hartley and Graham/Clauberg Nonregulation staff and field sword. A little above grade for a lieutenant.

 

[gjpratt]

The frosty etching on both blades is spectacular. Much nicer than I recall. The photos do not do them justice. The staining on the ricasso of the Ames is superficial. Post photos I wiped most of it off with a cloth

 

[stu613]

The frost etching on both blades is spectacular. Much nicer than I recall. The photos do not do them justice. The staining on the ricasso of the Ames is superficial. Post photos I wiped most of it off with a cloth

Wow, fantastic pics-know you must be excited about the exchange.

 

[gjpratt]

That is an understatement, @stu613 !

 

[stu613]

That is an understatement, @stu613 !

I am really good at that!

 

[TLHS]

I would not use the word "understanding."

What a wonderful grouping of swords, research, and images to reassemble after all these years.
Good work!

 

[Diane123]

I am really good at that!

It's one of the things we love best about you!

 

[Diane123]

Such a fantastic acquisition! They could not be in better hands! Congratulations, @gjpratt!