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gjpratt

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I am very fortunate to become the new caretaker of the presentation swords of two Iowa brothers. I have known of these swords for several years. They were family heirlooms in the custody of a direct descendant of James H. Beatty. No one in his family had any interest in the swords or the family genealogy. I had expressed an interest if he was ever going to consider disposing of them and he finally called.

I am posting the only photos I have from the seller while awaiting the arrival and unpacking of the swords. Hers's what I know so far based on Fold3, Find A Grave and basic NPS and internet resources.

First, the swords. The Ames foot officer sword is inscribed on the scabbard throat:

John N. Beatty

Lt. 8th Iowa Vol Inf


Beatty, John N. Age 23. Residence Wapello, nativity Ohio. Appointed Second Lieutenant Sept. 2, 1861. Mustered Sept. 21, 1861. Resigned June 8, 1863. See company E, First Iowa Infantry

If I am interpreting this correctly, this Beatty enlisted in a 90 day unit in response to Lincoln's first call for troops. That term of service expired 8/21/1861. He then enlisted as 2d lieutenant with 8th Iowa on 9/2/1861.

The Non-Regulation staff and field is inscribed on the scabbard:

Presented to

Jas H Beatty

By the 4th Iowa Battery

Jan 1st 1864


Per Fold3 James Helmick Beatty served as a lieutenant in the 4th Iowa Battery. The battery saw service mostly on garrison duty and his service record was nondescript. However, James had a varied and colorful post-war career that earned his own Wiki article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Helmick_Beatty. The article also confirms his service as a lieutenant in the 4th Iowa Battery.

John had a much more interesting CW career. While I have not been able to gather much information on this Lieut. Beatty, his regiment had a stellar record in the Western Theater. My brief research indicates the 8th Iowa Infantry fought extensively (and exclusively) in the Western Theater, most notably at Shiloh, Vicksburg and the Red River and Mobile Campaigns. They were very conspicuous if not decisive at Shiloh, where they suffered devastating casualties and held their ground until forced to surrender. Luckily, this was early in the War so they were exchanged a few months later and the 8th Iowa was refit and brought back to strength with new recruits.

John died in the 1870s. Inferentially, James, who is buried in Los Angeles, maintained his and his older brother's swords and they passed down to my seller who has lived his entire life in the Santa Rosa area.

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This is the only time in my collecting years that I have had this kid of luck. Union swords are not my specialty but these were too good a find to turn down.

The sword bayonet was part of the package but there is no further information. I don't know bayonets but it may be post-war?

Edited to add: I have personally inspected the swords when I first learned about them. Both have very nicely preserved etched blades.
 
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Based on my German facine knife book, it looks like a Prussian model1871 pioneer-faschinenmesser. It should have a saw-tooth spine. There may be additional information stamped on the blade or guard. The spine next to the hilt may have a crown over W above a two digit number. That number would be the last two digits of the four digit year it was accepted into service. (For example, 98 would indicate acceptance in 1898.) this is the kind of thing that might have been brought back by a doughboy serving in World War I. Were there any descendants of the Civil War soldiers who served in France during World War I?

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Since we can't see the bayonet's blade, we cannot say what it is, other than one intended for the M1871 Mauser (and the M1871/84). The grip and attachments were the same, the only difference being the sawback cut onto the back of the blade. I know of this strange fascination in the pioneer sawbacks and their relative rarity - and hence 'modification' of the infantry bayonet - but far more standard bayonets were made.
BTW - all these big bayonets make the rifle so muzzle-heavy when fitted, it is doubtful that they were of much use in the field. Nice sidearm for 'walking out' though.
 
Congratulations, I would say that you are on a roll my friend. If I had come home with that war log and those swords, my little bride would have hit me over the head with the log and ventilated me with the swords. You are a lucky man indeed to have such an understanding bride.
 
I am very fortunate to become the new caretaker of the presentation swords of two Iowa brothers. I have known of these swords for several years. They were family heirlooms in the custody of a direct descendant of James H. Beatty. No one in his family had any interest in the swords or the family genealogy. I had expressed an interest if he was ever going to consider disposing of them and he finally called.

I am posting the only photos I have from the seller while awaiting the arrival and unpacking of the swords. Hers's what I know so far based on Fold3, Find A Grave and basic NPS and internet resources.

First, the swords. The Ames foot officer sword is inscribed on the scabbard throat:

John N. Beatty

Lt. 8th Iowa Vol Inf


Beatty, John N. Age 23. Residence Wapello, nativity Ohio. Appointed Second Lieutenant Sept. 2, 1861. Mustered Sept. 21, 1861. Resigned June 8, 1863. See company E, First Iowa Infantry

If I am interpreting this correctly, this Beatty enlisted in a 90 day unit in response to Lincoln's first call for troops. That term of service expired 8/21/1861. He then enlisted as 2d lieutenant with 8th Iowa on 9/2/1861.

The Non-Regulation staff and field is inscribed on the scabbard:

Presented to

Jas H Beatty

By the 4th Iowa Battery

Jan 1st 1864


Per Fold3 James Helmick Beatty served as a lieutenant in the 4th Iowa Battery. The battery saw service mostly on garrison duty and his service record was nondescript. However, James had a varied and colorful post-war career that earned his own Wiki article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Helmick_Beatty. The article also confirms his service as a lieutenant in the 4th Iowa Battery.

John had a much more interesting CW career. While I have not been able to gather much information on this Lieut. Beatty, his regiment had a stellar record in the Western Theater. My brief research indicates the 8th Iowa Infantry fought extensively (and exclusively) in the Western Theater, most notably at Shiloh, Vicksburg and the Red River and Mobile Campaigns. They were very conspicuous if not decisive at Shiloh, where they suffered devastating casualties and held their ground until forced to surrender. Luckily, this was early in the War so they were exchanged a few months later and the 8th Iowa was refit and brought back to strength with new recruits.

John died in the 1870s. Inferentially, James, who is buried in Los Angeles, maintained his and his older brother's swords and they passed down to my seller who has lived his entire life in the Santa Rosa area.

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This is the only time in my collecting years that I have had this kid of luck. Union swords are not my specialty but these were too good a find to turn down.

The sword bayonet was part of the package but there is no further information. I don't know bayonets but it may be post-war?

Edited to add: I have personally inspected the swords when I first learned about them. Both have very nicely preserved etched blades.
No one in the family was interested in them! Or the family line just died out? Sad either way, wish I had my ancestors sword that Aunt Elanor sold to a junk dealer (Tinker) in the 1930s :cry::cry::cry:
 
First, the swords. The Ames foot officer sword is inscribed on the scabbard throat:

John N. Beatty

Lt. 8th Iowa Vol Inf


Beatty, John N. Age 23. Residence Wapello, nativity Ohio. Appointed Second Lieutenant Sept. 2, 1861. Mustered Sept. 21, 1861. Resigned June 8, 1863. See company E, First Iowa Infantry

If I am interpreting this correctly, this Beatty enlisted in a 90 day unit in response to Lincoln's first call for troops. That term of service expired 8/21/1861. He then enlisted as 2d lieutenant with 8th Iowa on 9/2/1861.
Very nice. You know I got kind of attached to the Iowans after Michael's presentation on his collection of Iowa images. See Iowa in the Civil War Images on Facebook. John N Beatty is John Newton Beatty. My friend Michael will be along shortly to share some information that will be of great interest to you! That 3 month regiment was the 1st Iowa. There's a great story about them. You'll like it. :D Anyway, I've called Michael's attention to this thread and he will be along shortly.
 
Very nice. You know I got kind of attached to the Iowans after Michael's presentation on his collection of Iowa images. See Iowa in the Civil War Images on Facebook. John N Beatty is John Newton Beatty. My friend Michael will be along shortly to share some information that will be of great interest to you! That 3 month regiment was the 1st Iowa. There's a great story about them. You'll like it. :D Anyway, I've called Michael's attention to this thread and he will be along shortly.
As Laura mentioned I'm a bit of an Iowa Civil War guy. The 1st Iowa is especially cool as they were the only 3 months regiment from Iowa. They fought bravely at Wilson's Creek in their tattered GRAY uniforms and returned home in newly issued gray uniforms following the battle. You can learn about these uniforms and find over 2700 images of identified Iowa soldiers in the "Iowa Civil War Images" Facebook group.

I happen to have an image of John Newton Beatty in my personal collection (the standing view in the CDV frame). There are also a few others in private collections as well. I've attached them here. Unfortunately I have not been able to locate an image of James H. Beatty, but I do have a couple unidentified images of line officers from the 4th Iowa Light Artillery….maybe one of those images is of James Beatty? In general, images of the 4th IA Light Artillery are exceedingly rare.
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I just love all those images of John Newton Beatty. I love the cased image of course. You know I'm a sucker for cased images. :DThe one of him standing in the center of the group of 3 is wonderful. I saw that all three men are ID'd. Fantastic! Your image where he's wearing his boots and kepi is awesome. Is that a tintype? in a CDV mount?
 

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