Need Springfield 1861 Identity Help.

[Banger]

Can someone help me Identify this Springfield Rifle, I inherited it from my Grandfather. The barrel is rifled, I thought it might be an 1861 Springfield but what is throwing me off is the Springfield 1854 Stamp close to the hammer. I will upload pics. I know it is missing the ram rod if anyone also knows where I could purchase at least a remanufactured one.
Thank You all, happy to be in the group.
Chris

 

[johan_steele]

Rifled M1842 Springfield that has been shortened post military service.

 

[JOHN42768]

Can someone help me Identify this Springfield Rifle, I inherited it from my Grandfather. The barrel is rifled, I thought it might be an 1861 Springfield but what is throwing me off is the Springfield 1854 Stamp close to the hammer. I will upload pics. I know it is missing the ram rod if anyone also knows where I could purchase at least a remanufactured one.
Thank You all, happy to be in the group.
Chris

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Welcome, enjoy

 

[scooter748driver]

Welcome from the Fort Sumter and the Fredericksburg forums.

Johan_steele is very knowledgeable so you can go with his info.

 

[13 IL Cav & 64 GA Inf]

Can someone help me Identify this Springfield Rifle, I inherited it from my Grandfather. The barrel is rifled, I thought it might be an 1861 Springfield but what is throwing me off is the Springfield 1854 Stamp close to the hammer. I will upload pics. I know it is missing the ram rod if anyone also knows where I could purchase at least a remanufactured one.
Thank You all, happy to be in the group.
Chris

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Welcome. Learn, please contribute, and Enjoy!

 

[Joe Whitworth]

Rifled M1842 Springfield that has been shortened post military service.

I don't see an added rear sight, how can you tell it was rifled?

 

[Banger]

I don't see an added rear sight, how can you tell it was rifled?

I look down the barrel and see the rifling groves.

 

[Banger]

Rifled M1842 Springfield that has been shortened post military service.

Thank you Johan. Is it common to find a 1854 mark on a 1842? Was 1854 the last year they made the 1842 Springfield?

 

[johan_steele]

Thank you Johan. Is it common to find a 1854 mark on a 1842? Was 1854 the last year they made the 1842 Springfield?

The M1842 was being made through 1855 IIRC. Several thousand were rifled about that time to give them some more life. I'm away from my references so dont have dates and numbers rifled in front of me. They were a good arm though with a heavier recoil than .58. I don't really note recoil the way most do and didn't think the recoil was that bad but I know others have disagreed about such.

The rear sight was secured to the barrel via a screw they weren't soldered on as most European arms. Though there were some that never received the rear sight.

 

[Jeff in Ohio]

As Johan Steele says, this was shortened at some time after it was made. So, the ramrod was also shortened. Best way to find a replacement is to take your musket arm somewhere, such as a Show, where there are many ramrods available - you can then see what fits best and looks best.

 

[Trooper "D"]

Can someone help me Identify this Springfield Rifle, I inherited it from my Grandfather. The barrel is rifled, I thought it might be an 1861 Springfield but what is throwing me off is the Springfield 1854 Stamp close to the hammer. I will upload pics. I know it is missing the ram rod if anyone also knows where I could purchase at least a remanufactured one.
Thank You all, happy to be in the group.
Chris

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You should be able to find a re pro ramrod easy enough. The gun show angle as mentioned is another good tip.