Need help identifying an Artillery Projectile..

[nunzio747]

Hello All

I recently purchased this Artillery round. I initially thought it was Civil War but now I'm thinking it's later.
10" X 3.5" weighs about 24lbs. The inner material seems like a gray concrete?? The only mark I can see is the "E" stamped on the bottom. Thoughts???

Thanks for your input

Walt

 

[Ole Miss]

I would suggest contacting @redbob or @ucvrelics for an expert's assistance.
Regards
David

 

[Belfoured]

Hello All

I recently purchased this Artillery round. I initially thought it was Civil War but now I'm thinking it's later.
10" X 3.5" weighs about 24lbs. The inner material seems like a gray concrete?? The only mark I can see is the "E" stamped on the bottom. Thoughts???

Thanks for your input

WaltView attachment 381705View attachment 381707View attachment 381708

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What's the material for what appears to be the sabot , if you know?

 

[UCVRelics]

Its way post CW as it has to many lands and grooves. With the concrete on the inside I would say is a training round. At 3.5" its going to be a 90mm round.

 

[redbob]

Agreed, WWII era; possibly for a dual purpose (anti tank-anti aircraft) M1 gun.

 

[Rhea Cole]

You may have something really unusual. I went looking for an artillery round with the unusual groove profile around the base of this projectile. December 10, 1906 Carlos De Safra of New York, N.Y. filed a patent for an armor piercing round with a base fuse. The profile in the patent application No. 863,248 matches the one in the photos. The other candidate is a Hotchis base fused round, but couldn't find one with the same groove pattern around the base.

<gutenberg.org> The Development of Armor-piercing Shells
(With Suggestions for their Improvement)
By
Carlos De Zafra, M.E.

1915

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[nunzio747]

What's the material for what appears to be the sabot , if you know?

I believe it's lead..

 

[nunzio747]

Its way post CW as it has to many lands and grooves. With the concrete on the inside I would say is a training round. At 3.5" its going to be a 90mm round.

I kinda thought that too... Thanks!

 

[nunzio747]

You may have something really unusual. I went looking for an artillery round with the unusual groove profile around the base of this projectile. December 10, 1906 Carlos De Safra of New York, N.Y. filed a patent for an armor piercing round with a base fuse. The profile in the patent application No. 863,248 matches the one in the photos. The other candidate is a Hotchis base fused round, but couldn't find one with the same groove pattern around the base.

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<gutenberg.org> The Development of Armor-piercing Shells
(With Suggestions for their Improvement)
By
Carlos De Zafra, M.E.

1915

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Interesting!!! Thanks!!