Mac and Pope

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What was the plan for McClellan and the AotP w/ respect to Pope and the AoV? Once the units were consolidated, did Lincoln intend for the AotP to continue to operate as a separate army, under the command of Pope? Were they two separate but equal army commands that Halleck had to coordinate with Mac mantaining control of the AoTP? Was the AotP supposed to fold into AoV, in which case what was Mac's job?

2nd Bull run kind of blew this all up but what was in fact the command plan?
 
What was the plan for McClellan and the AotP w/ respect to Pope and the AoV? Once the units were consolidated, did Lincoln intend for the AotP to continue to operate as a separate army, under the command of Pope? Were they two separate but equal army commands that Halleck had to coordinate with Mac mantaining control of the AoTP? Was the AotP supposed to fold into AoV, in which case what was Mac's job?

2nd Bull run kind of blew this all up but what was in fact the command plan?

Evidently the President had ordered the forward movement of the Army of the Potomac on the 22nd of February and it didn't move. Then gave it ten days to move from March 1, and it eventually was advanced upon Manassas, as the Confederates withdrew toward Richmond, etc. According to Secretary of the Treasury S.P. Chase the President etc. preferred Mac just march upon Richmond. But he preferred the movement upon Richmond from the Peninsula... so this was allowed and the Army of the Potomac moved thence accordingly, and approached Richmond from the east side during March through early June.

General Pope was appointed commander of the "Army of Virginia" organized from June 26. The forces included were rather widely scattered, and Pope moved to reorganize and consolidate his movable force along the Rapidan, etc. Pope notes of his general instructions...

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This army, consequently, commenced organization etc. the day after the commencement of the Seven Days battles near Richmond.


Secretary Chase says that after McClellan's retreat from Richmond toward Harrison's landing commenced, and his messages warning of potentially having to capitulate with his army, etc., there was some discussion about relieving him of command of the Army of the Potomac, which Chase says he and Secretary of War Stanton pressed, and perhaps giving Pope command of the Army of the Potomac. The President instead appointed Gen. Halleck as General-in-chief over all, to attempt to keep things in hand. Chase says Halleck informed him in this period that he would keep a handle on McClellan to avoid disaster...

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Chase:

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Anyways, Pope's army commenced operations in a manner to threaten Richmond, while Halleck had discussions with McClellan about advancing again from Harrison's landing. Ultimately McClellan wouldn't move without large reinforcement. So the Army of the Potomac was ordered by water to Aquia Creek, and from there to reinforce and support Pope. There was in the meantime the Battle of Cedar Mountain, and then Pope's army held a line along the Rappahannock after the 18th of August, during which General Halleck hoped movement of enough of McClellan's troops to unite with Pope might give great advantage. Halleck stated:

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In the latter case, were McClellan retained in command of part of the Army of the Potomac, separate from Pope's army, it would likely have been under a general command by Halleck perhaps. But I suspect from the comments by Secretary Chase and some others, that had Pope's operations proved even moderately successful, Pope might have have ended up in command of the combined armies.

But, with McClellan's army arriving about Aquia Creek, etc., it was ordered to detach to reinforce Pope, etc. ultimately ca. 40,000 troops who didn't make it to Pope's army in time to forestall disaster. General Halleck himself ended up in a three or four day tangle with Mac about forwarding more troops toward Pope at Manassas. McClellan finally sending a notice direct to the President that all troops should be retained about Washington, and Pope left to get out of his own "scrape." Nicolay and Hay (vol. 6, p. 23) said the President, particularly after Pope's defeat within hours of the last, was rather outraged personally by it.

Secretary Chase says the Army of Virginia and the Army of the Potomac thus only came together by Pope's defeat and withdrawal to Washington... rather than in the field, supporting a success by Pope...

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Secretary Chase says, even after Pope's defeat, he would have preferred that in the emergency the President shelf McClellan, and perhaps keep Pope. But the President did the opposite, and gave McClellan general command over all on the 2nd of September. Lincoln's secretaries Nicolay and Hay say that Pope wasn't considered incompetent, but his declarations to the troops had been impolitic, and certainly his fresh defeat didn't inspire the troops with confidence. Also that Lincoln felt any other general commanding the Army of the Potomac might not be seconded or supported as they should have been, in any case. Lincoln:

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Hay and Nicolay, also noted that the President was also aware, that in the midst of the disasters and emergency of the hour, and struggles in recruiting, etc., General McClellan was a favorite of the opposition to the administration, which would encourage his success as much as it might crow of Pope's failure.

Lincoln was evidently pleased with the burst of activity by McClellan distinct from his recent inaction and arguments...

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It was Pope who was snubbed this week. When he applied for clarification of his orders on September 5, General Halleck replied...

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McClellan's resulting campaign against Lee's movement into Maryland was generally successful. McClellan, on a march of ten days, reorganizing troops from different armies, (Army of the Potomac, Army of Virginia, and defenses of Washington, Burnside's command, and the Kanawha Division, etc.) before the actions resulting in the Battle of Antietam. I.W. Heysinger observing...

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The Report of Major-General Pope...

George Gordon's history of the Army of Virginia...
 
Lincoln probably wanted Halleck to lead the combined armies. I don't believe he had any interest in doing so.

Halleck told McClellan that he would be in command once armies joined together.
 
Lincoln probably wanted Halleck to lead the combined armies. I don't believe he had any interest in doing so.

Halleck told McClellan that he would be in command once armies joined together.

Halleck did tell him that. August 7, Halleck to McClellan:

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McClellan didn't particularly believe him apparently.

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And by the 20th of August McClellan was personally satisfied that he was on the outs...

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Secretary of the Navy Welles observed of the situation that he didn't think McClellan's continued command was assured, particularly after producing his manifesto on the conduct of the war, which he presented to the President, rather than advancing again against Richmond, etc. from Harrison's landing:

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Treasury Secretary Chase says amidst these issues, By September 1, Halleck was in general command, with Pope commanding the Army of Virginia and the large part of the Army of the Potomac forwarded to it in the field by that day; McClellan to retain command of the remnant of the Army of the Potomac...

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The portions of the Army of the Potomac attached to Pope, or proceeding forward to him, by then included most of it.

Even after McClellan was entrusted with the combined forces in the aftermath of the disaster to Pope's army on September 2, President Lincoln informed his concerned cabinet the situation safe given Halleck's authority to jettison McClellan when it became necessary. From Treasury Secretary Chase's notes on that date:

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Navy Secretary Welles says of the President's reliance on Halleck's authority to replace McClellan when required:

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For example, on September 3, the day after McClellan was given command of the troops drawing in about Washington, Lincoln's order to reorganize from them a force to take the field against Lee's army was directed to General Halleck (with the expectation of course of being seconded by McClellan)...

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The original of the above was in President Lincoln's handwriting, signed by the Secretary of War.

General McClellan of course commanding the army actually sent forth for active service... leading to the Battle of Antietam.
 
McClellan was assigned to command the Washington defenses and, as the above order indicates, to organize the field army for active operations in Maryland. However, it was not certain that McClellan was to lead the army after Lee. Burnside was offered command on September 5 and declined.
 
McClellan was assigned to command the Washington defenses and, as the above order indicates, to organize the field army for active operations in Maryland. However, it was not certain that McClellan was to lead the army after Lee. Burnside was offered command on September 5 and declined.

Indeed. Throughout the period of our discussion, the Secretary of War, etc., was evidently looking about for someone, anyone, both willing and able to take responsibility and replace McClellan in command of the Army of the Potomac. General Hitchcock recorded he was approached about taking command of the Army of the Potomac while it was yet on the Peninsula, and though, per his diary, personally convinced of the emergency given some of McClellan's behavior and ideas, declined as he was too old and sick for an active command. According to Lincoln's secretaries, Nicolay and Hay (vol. 6, p. 24), Hitchcock had also observed that whoever replaced Mac would not be well seconded by his senior officers, and the troops generally.

President Lincoln, evidently, was not sanguine that McClellan's command in the field after September 2 would lead to decisive results, but enjoined to his cabinet, etc., that he supposed McClellan, if spurred on by Halleck, etc., might actually "hurt" Lee's army before the close of the campaign in Maryland...

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Antietam filled that bill, and was a victory besides. Ultimately, Mac's replacement was required, and Burnside was ordered to assume command of the Army...

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So far as I can tell, McClellan was originally told that he'd command the combined army upon the removal of the AoP back to northern Virginia, but this changed by the time he actually got there.

I suspect the plan was basically to give Pope a very big army and then conduct the overland campaign that Lincoln always wanted. Whether Pope knew this is actually an interesting question because as Daoust points out Pope had every means to ask for 6th Corps earlier than he actually had need of it, and did not; he also didn't retire behind the Bull Run to combine the armies between the 29th and 30th August, despite being aware it was an option. He may have wanted to avoid sharing the glory he thought was to come.
 
Secretary of the Navy Welles observed of the situation that he didn't think McClellan's continued command was assured, particularly after producing his manifesto on the conduct of the war, which he presented to the President, rather than advancing again against Richmond, etc. from Harrison's landing:
Something I should note in this connection is that (while I think Welles might not necessarily have known this, and possibly Lincoln didn't remember it) McClellan had actually sought and obtained permission from Lincoln to write a letter about things that were not strictly military but which related to the conduct of the war; this became the Harrisons Landing letter.

There's also the weirdness with respect to advancing from Harrisons Landing which is that McClellan's latest instructions from Lincoln were actually to wait for reinforcement, those reinforcements being Burnside's force (which never arrived). In fact, and relevantly to the point about Burnside which you made later, it is my understanding that everyone in McClellan's high command structure was under the impression (because Burnside had said so) that he was due to arrive on the 21st July.
The reason Burnside hadn't arrived prior to that point is that he was told not to join McClellan until directed to (from Washington).

Instead Burnside was summoned to Washington and offered AoP command, which he refused.


Like I say, I think it's possible here that Lincoln forgot he'd explicitly given McClellan permission for the Harrisons Landing letter, or that he forgot that he'd told McClellan to wait for reinforcement before advancing (specifically McClellan's preference was to move on Petersburg) but it does look like attempts to replace McClellan with Someone Else are a key feature; if you consider the formation of the Army of Virginia to be another of these then it goes back prior to the Seven Days.
 
I suspect the plan was basically to give Pope a very big army and then conduct the overland campaign that Lincoln always wanted. Whether Pope knew this is actually an interesting question because as Daoust points out Pope had every means to ask for 6th Corps earlier than he actually had need of it, and did not;

Apparently aware. On the 21st of August Gen. Pope was indeed informed by Halleck's HQ that he would be reinforced as the Army of the Potomac units came up...

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he also didn't retire behind the Bull Run to combine the armies between the 29th and 30th August, despite being aware it was an option. He may have wanted to avoid sharing the glory he thought was to come.

As early the 22nd of August Gen. Halleck was encouraging Pope to attack where he saw an opportunity...

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Pope was again instructed on the 26th to attack once he found Lee's army...

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On the same date, Franklin's sixth corps got its marching orders to join Pope... but for various reasons it did not join Pope's army until after the battle...

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Here's a basic rundown of the time line on General Franklin's Sixth Corps, which the Administration and General-in-Chief Halleck desired to have joined with General Pope's Army before the battle...

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Anyways, here's a sample of Pope's orders from Halleck by the close of the 27th... keep line with Washington open, troops from the AoP etc. expected to come out to by it, etc.

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Something I should note in this connection is that (while I think Welles might not necessarily have known this, and possibly Lincoln didn't remember it) McClellan had actually sought and obtained permission from Lincoln to write a letter about things that were not strictly military but which related to the conduct of the war; this became the Harrisons Landing letter.

My understanding is that Lincoln was not particularly offended about Mac giving him the Harrison's landing letter; just thanked him and put it in his pocket, etc. The President's secretaries Hay and Nicolay thought he was more alarmed at McClellan's particular views about his military situation.

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General McClellan reported the same...

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Hay and Nicolay say Lincoln was actually offended some at Mac's lack of enthusiasm relative to pressing reinforcements to Pope before battle at Second Manassas was joined...

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There's also the weirdness with respect to advancing from Harrisons Landing which is that McClellan's latest instructions from Lincoln were actually to wait for reinforcement, those reinforcements being Burnside's force (which never arrived). In fact, and relevantly to the point about Burnside which you made later, it is my understanding that everyone in McClellan's high command structure was under the impression (because Burnside had said so) that he was due to arrive on the 21st July.
The reason Burnside hadn't arrived prior to that point is that he was told not to join McClellan until directed to (from Washington).

Instead Burnside was summoned to Washington and offered AoP command, which he refused.

Mac commanded the Army of the Potomac. He had stepped down from the position of General-in-chief to command it in person on the Peninsula. He therefore had no authority to give orders to Burnside in North Carolina, or anyone outside of the Army of the Potomac particularly. Lincoln noted in a speech in August the McClellan had every right to call for such reinforcements as he thought necessary, and the Secretary of War to provide him just as many as he, the President saw fit.

J.R. Hay says President Lincoln was aware of "staff talk" in the Army which could commence with rumors and end with disobedience where it created confusion among the officers. Burnside had his orders. McClellan had his orders. Pope had his orders. But there is only one commander-in-chief, and he decides what the orders are, but he relies upon the generals to carry them out somehow.

Case in point, before the Seven Day's battle about Richmond erupted Gen. Burnside was evidently planning a movement inland, I think to Goldsboro, but got orders to proceed to the James River at the close of June. Several thousand troops were embarked, but about July 2 General Burnside was apparently informed, by "staff talk" rumors, through Col. Hawkins, that McClellan had taken Richmond after heavy fighting. So he presumed it necessary to delay his departure, presuming he would shortly receive notice to debark and continue operations toward Goldsboro. Veterans recalled...

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By the 5th however, after McClellan was whipped and re-established at Harrison's landing, Gen. Burnside informed the War Dept. that he had received information of McClellan's defeat and withdrawal to the James River. A large part of his forces were then carried to Newport News, VA, within supporting distance of McClellan's army, and formed into the Ninth Army Corps. It moved to Aquia Creek in the first days of August. Even if it had joined Mac at Harrison's it was only ca. 10,000 strong, and Mac wanted at the least double that number to renew an offensive.

General Halleck assumed the general-in-chiefdom on July 11 to get the Army under some control, and to find out if McClellan would make an advance from Harrison's landing, otherwise to remove the troops...

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So the above fixes August 3 as the date that the Administration and Army was certain General McClellan was never going to make a forward movement from Harrison's landing, as he was then ordered to abandon it and carry the army by water to Aquia Creek to promote operations between Washington and Richmond.

August 4, Gen. McClellan once notified that he was to withdraw the army responded with alarm...

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Halleck responded that it would not be rescinded, so he aught to get moving. And asked why he hadn't already sent off his sick, which had previously been ordered some days before the withdrawal order...


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Did the fate of the Union hang of McClellan retaining his toe-hold perimeter on the Peninsula at Harrison's landing after August 4, 1862? The Government apparently didn't think so. It thought it was more important to put those troops in the field of battle developing in front of Washington.


Like I say, I think it's possible here that Lincoln forgot he'd explicitly given McClellan permission for the Harrisons Landing letter, or that he forgot that he'd told McClellan to wait for reinforcement before advancing (specifically McClellan's preference was to move on Petersburg) but it does look like attempts to replace McClellan with Someone Else are a key feature; if you consider the formation of the Army of Virginia to be another of these then it goes back prior to the Seven Days.

Lincoln probably only cared about the Harrison's landing letter, to the extent it offended his cabinet, many of whom felt McClellan had to go months before it was written.
In the post-Antietam period dealing with General McClellan was again contentious in the common manner. Hay notes in his diary the President stated he had come to suspect, fairly or not, that Mac just really didn't want to "hurt" the rebs enough.

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Hay and Nicolay say Lincoln was actually offended some at Mac's lack of enthusiasm relative to pressing reinforcements to Pope before battle at Second Manassas was joined...

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Which would be a weird reason to slow-walk reinforcements to McClellan on the Peninsula or try and replace him with Burnside, as that hadn't happened yet!



So the above fixes August 3 as the date that the Administration and Army was certain General McClellan was never going to make a forward movement from Harrison's landing, as he was then ordered to abandon it and carry the army by water to Aquia Creek to promote operations between Washington and Richmond.
Which is also strange, because Halleck relates that he asked McClellan if McClellan would advance with just Burnside and McClellan replied in the affirmative, but it's also the case as of early August that the Union is recruiting and mustering in 300,000 more troops. If there is ever a time the Union can afford to wait a bit and massively reinforce a strong position, it is then.


Halleck responded that it would not be rescinded, so he aught to get moving. And asked why he hadn't already sent off his sick, which had previously been ordered some days before the withdrawal order...


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Did the fate of the Union hang of McClellan retaining his toe-hold perimeter on the Peninsula at Harrison's landing after August 4, 1862? The Government apparently didn't think so. It thought it was more important to put those troops in the field of battle developing in front of Washington.
Yes, Halleck didn't realize how long it would take to remove the sick, expecting it to have been done within a day. It took a week and a half.


As for the fate of the Union, and the field of battle developing in front of Washington, I think this assessment misses an important point - which is that Lee is totally unable to safely send most of his army away from Richmond (to actually go to the "field of battle developing in front of Washington") until McClellan is actually gone from the Peninsula.

Had McClellan not been recalled, there would have been no Northern Virginia campaign.
 

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