Lets see some goodies

[Specster]

I traded a M1941 Portuguese Contract K98 with two other K98 bayonets. (For the M1816 Musket)
A Springfield M1 rifle with bayonet circa 1943-for the Sharps rifle PLUS $2,500 Cdn.
A Springfield M1884 Trapdooor rifle with an M1 rifle ammo pouch for for the P56 Enfield carbine.

Each trade took some time to complete with some frustrations. (The last two trades were with the same person.)

Do you buy for your collection or do you have a store/other business???

 

[drm2m]

Do you buy for your collection or do you have a store/other business???

I am a collector in Montreal, Canada--not a dealer.
Not the best place to be a CW collector.
I have been selling and trading some of my WWII German and American pieces and adding to my antique/CW stuff.
This was one of my early trades a Remington-Rider (fluted cylinder) DA New Model Belt Revolver (1863-65) for a deactivated M1928A1 Thompson smg.

 

[LtRusell]

That is a beautiful sword.

It really is. I have seen quite a few swords, but not in such good condition.

 

[drm2m]

Blades.
Top— U.S. Model 1840 cavalry saber---Ames—1845 dated.
2nd—U.S. Model 1860 cavalry saber—Ames—1863 dated.
3rd—Model 1822 French cavalry saber-- Manufacture Royale de Châtellerault , Septembre 1844
4th---Model 1850 Foot Officer's Sword—Horstmann &Sons- Philadelphia.
5th & 6th –U.S. Model 1840 Musicians swords---Ames- dated 1864--- C. Roby dated 1863.
7th---M1855 saber bayonet for the M1841 rifle---Harpers Ferry inspection stamp. PB/P.
8th—Dahlgren (knife) bayonet ---Ames 1864—U.S.N.---DR stamp for Navy inspector Daniel Reynolds.

Socket bayonets. (left to right)

1&2-- Model 1855 socket bayonets for M1861 rifle muskets.
3-- Socket bayonet for the M1842 musket.
4&5—Scabbards and socket bayonet for the P53 Enfield rifle musket.

 

[James N.]

I've posted these before in more detail but will bring them together here:

Three Percussion Muskets, M.1842, M.1840, & M.1816/22 (the last two are Belgian conversions):

Two M.1849 Colt Pocket Pistols, five-shot with 6" barrel and six-shot with 4" barrel:

Part of a Nashville Plow Works cavalry saber:

Ames M.1840 Dragoon and M.1860 Cavalry Sabers:

The same M.1840 "Wristbreaker" and its Confederate "Brother":

Ames M.1840 NCO and Musician's Swords:

Regulation M.1850 Staff-and-Field and Foot Officers' Swords by various makers, the bottom one unknown Confederate:

French M.1822 Officer's and U.S. M.1840 Enlisted Man's Artillery Sabers:

Three French Revolutionary and Napoleonic Dragoon, Cavalry, and Hussar Musketoons:

Two French Infantry Muskets, the top one Revolutionary, the bottom a Japanese Repro:

Two French Light Cavalry Sabers, Enlisted and Officer:

French Epees and Short Sabers Dating ca. 1770-1870:

Of course this doesn't include the various WWI and WWII rifles, swords, bayonets, and pistols.

 

[mofederal]

A friend of mine owned a French Napoleonic Cuirassier saber. It was a beautiful weapon. . I love the non Civil War pieces, my stuff is mostly all WWII.

 

[drm2m]

Examples of private purchases.

Top –left side.
1—Colt Model 1849 Pocket Revolver.--.31 cal. 5 shot—5 inch barrel.
2—Colt Model 1862 Police Revolver.
3—Manhattan Series One Navy Revolver--.36 cal—5 shot –4 inch barrel.
4—S&W Model No.2 Army Revolver--.32 cal. long rim-fire—6 shot.—6 inch barrel.
Right side top.
1---Model 1861 Colt Navy Revolver--.36cal.—6 shot –7 1/2 inch barrel.
2-- S&W Model No.2 Army Revolver--.32 cal. long rim-fire—6 shot.—6 inch barrel.

 

[DixieRifles]

Bottom photo—Model 1841 rifle-- Lock marked E. WHITNEY (over US)

What Missippy boy wouldn't want to own a Mississippi Rifle! Nice Rifle and bayonet.

 

[drm2m]

My best CW cavalry saber shown on top.
It was not found in Canada.

Ames Model 1840 Enlisted Cavalry Saber.

Manufactured by Ames Manufacturing Company, Chicopee, Massachusetts. Marks on ricasso, " N.P. AMES/ CABOTVILLE/1845" and "US / JCB/ ", additional inspector stampings on pommel, "NWP" and "WAT". The grip has leather wrap and wire intact, leather washer intact, clean blade, scabbard intact with smooth grey patina, outstanding example of the wrist breaker with desirable early date 1845 which was the first delivery date by Ames of this model.(600 sabres delivered in 1845) (Some of these comments were from the seller.)

JCB-Joseph C. Bragg ASI 1841-49
NWP –Nahum W. Patch ASI 1831-51
WAT-William Anderson Thornton, Captain USA 1840-66
He held several positions in the inspection system as Inspector Contract Arms;
Commanding Officer at Watertown and New York.
Brevet BG, 1865.

 

[drm2m]

The Dahlgren knife bayonet.

The Dahlgren knife bayonet... (named after Captain John A. Dahlgren, U.S. Navy)... one of two bayonets associated with the Whitney Model 1861 Percussion Navy ("Plymouth") .69 caliber Rifle.
The Whitney "Plymouth" rifle, named after the U.S.S. PLYMOUTH, a naval ordnance testing ship which had been built under Dahlgren's supervision, has the distinction of being the only U.S. contract arm to be originally rifled in .69 caliber.

The first Knife Bladed bayonet is considered to be the Model 1861 for the Plymouth / Whitneyville rifle. It is perhaps better known by its nickname the Dahlgren Bowie Bayonet, named for it inventor Admiral John A. Dahlgren. Many articles have been written about the Dahlgren bayonet but what I find most intriguing are the actual letters from the Admiral himself regarding its design and use. As we know the basic use of a bayonet is mounted to the end of a rifle or musket. To Dahlgren's thinking this is not the proper use of his newly invented arm. It should be known that Admiral Dahlgren was in command of several Navy ships and knew first hand what close quarters fighting was about. With this in mind perhaps we can relate to the admirals thought when he wrote that the bayonet was best used in the hand not mounted on the end of the rifle it was designed for. It is also interesting to note that the 1861 rifle already had a sword bayonet designed for it at the time of Dahlgren's invention of the new bayonet. In Dahlgren's own words he called it the "most useless thing in the world except at the end of a musket." Perhaps this explains why most Dahlgren bayonets do NOT fit the Model 1861 rifle. They were meant to but they were also designed to be used as a close quarters fighting weapon in a sailors or marines hand. The Admiral invented a bayonet because a knife would not be sanctioned by the Ordnance Board. But being the clever fellow he was the bayonet did not really have to fit the rifle either.

 

[Mark A]

Here's a handgun that is rarely, if ever, seen.

Top: Standard Rogers & Spencer with a 7 1/2 inch barrel. S/N 264

Bottom: Rare early variant R&S with a 9 1/4 inch barrel and a longer loading lever. Also equipped with a larger trigger guard and slimmer profiled grips. Possibly a field trials gun. S/N 57

 

[originalrebelyell]

This post is very interesting lets keep it going.

 

[Mark A]

Okay, last one before I pack it up and head to Gettysburg to put up a display this weekend.

Top: a 12 shot Walch Navy revolver
Bottom: Sharps pistol

 

[drm2m]

Mark A----beautiful pieces---congrats!

My first trade—April 19 2013.

A young collector from Ottawa wanted my 1942 barrel dated Inland M1A1 paratrooper carbine and I said it was not for sale----find me something interesting to trade.

He knew that I was into U.S. Civil War stuff----but he came up with this.
It is a cased Model 1849 London Colt Pocket Revolver.

As they say-- "buy the gun not the story"----in this case I bought 'the gun and the story'.




My research took me to a relative found in England ---in Ottawa---and in Antigua.
I was looking for a photo of James Samuel Winter the name on the case plate.
I never found a photo ---but I found other stuff.





The engraving ---James Samuel Winter on the case plate.


The revolver that has no remaining original finish but has very clear markings and cylinder scene.







William James Winter in 2006 or 2007 ---the last Winter to own the Colt --- he died in 2008.
He was the author of "A Winter Tale".
He lived in Ottawa.

 

[UCVRelics]

I do like my dug stuff. Here is a Texas Star I dug from the Texas part of the camp I'm excavating.

 

[sjw83071]

My response to this thread

 

[Mark A]

Mark A----beautiful pieces---congrats!

My first trade—April 19 2013.

A young collector from Ottawa wanted my 1942 barrel dated Inland M1A1 paratrooper carbine and I said it was not for sale----find me something interesting to trade.

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He knew that I was into U.S. Civil War stuff----but he came up with this.
It is a cased Model 1849 London Colt Pocket Revolver.

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As they say-- "buy the gun not the story"----in this case I bought 'the gun and the story'.

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My research took me to a relative found in England ---in Ottawa---and in Antigua.
I was looking for a photo of James Samuel Winter the name on the case plate.
I never found a photo ---but I found other stuff.

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The engraving ---James Samuel Winter on the case plate.

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The revolver that has no remaining original finish but has very clear markings and cylinder scene.

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William James Winter in 2006 or 2007 ---the last Winter to own the Colt --- he died in 2008.
He was the author of "A Winter Tale".
He lived in Ottawa.

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Nice clean Colt Pocket with a great cylinder scene, just how I like to find them.

 

[drm2m]

I bought my first Model 1849 Colt Pocket Revolver on April 13 1994.
It was manufactured in 1855 and has a New York barrel address.
The cylinder scene is very clear on this little Colt and a substantial amount of the silver plating remains as may be seen in one of the photos below.

 

[James N.]

I do like my dug stuff. Here is a Texas Star I dug from the Texas part of the camp I'm excavating.
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That certainly looks like it was probably dropped or lost by one of Terry's boys!

 

[drm2m]

My most recent trade---Sept 26 2017.
I traded a Springfield Model 1884 Trapdoor rifle serial number 561529 (near the end of production of the Trapdoors) with Inspector's cartouche 'SWP 1893'.
(I thought that I was going to be trading a 1943 dated Inland 'Bavaria Rural Police' marked M1 Carbine---last minute change of heart by the other guy.)

This is what I received in trade---a P56 East India Pattern carbine—lock marked 1861/Tower and Crown/VR.

My P53 Enfield rifle musket.

The difference in the 1861/Tower lock plate markings.

The P53. (No V.R under the Crown)

The P56. ( V.R. under the Crown)

The difference in the stock markings.

C.S. Inventory number on the buttplate tang of the P53.

A roundel on the P56 carbine.
Stamped (roundel) on stock R.H.side in circular frame: TOWER-LONDON/ 1861, crown over broad arrow with flanking initials 'W' and 'O'
The number 1 under the roundel signifies issue to a regular Army/cavalry unit.

Number 33 stamped on the L.H. side of the stock.

Stock marking.

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I knew nothing about these P56 carbines so I reached out to a very knowledgeable fellow whose opinion I respect and this is what he said.

"I think that it would be nice to have a P56 cavalry carbine in your CW collection. They are a fine weapon and were very popular with the Confederates. They are excellent shooters. It's very difficult to find one that was actually used in the War and even harder to find one that retains its original sling ring and bar. It seems that many of the carbines were used as barn guns following the War. The P56 was much liked by Jeb Stuart and his ordnance officer John Esten Cooke. I have one carried by a trooper in the Georgia cavalry and several others without provenance to an individual".

So based on his comment I moved forward with the trade.

Many barrel markings that I can't identify.

My Gurus' comments;
That is a nice carbine. It appears to be a straight British issue piece as it has the WO stamp and a 1 class designation.