Italians Fighting for the Confederacy

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I found this interesting page on the Internet about Italians fighting in our American Civil War coming directly form Italy to fight in our war.

The 800plus Italians landed in New Orleans before the union took control of the city. Most of them join various LA. Units. I thought it was an interesting read just one long page...

Our "Lost Cause" friends should be happy to know a Confedrate flag flies somewhere over Italy...

Here is the link...

http://www.songofdixie.com/Pierluigi Rossi.htm
 
Here is a link to ACW Civil War Toy Soldiers kind of cool it has the Italian Unit. I wonder if the colors and uniforms were accurate.


http://www.acwtoysoldiers.com/Confed Soldier Pics/1st_div__n_o_,_la.htm

Your toy soldiers are replica's of Major Wheat's "LA. tigers" Special Brigade. The wore Zouaves a French type uniform.

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Infantry Sgt and Tiger Zouave

The origin of the term came from the "Tiger Rifles," a volunteer company raised in the New Orleans area as part of Major Chatham Roberdeau Wheat's battalion of Louisiana infantry. A large number of the men were foreign-born, particularly Irish immigrants, many from the city's wharves and docks. Many men had previous military experience in local militia units or as filibusters. They (and the regiments that later became known as the Tigers) were organized and trained at Camp Moore.
Originally, Company B of Wheat's Tigers wore distinctive uniforms similar to the French zouave, with straw hats or red cloth fezzes, blue-striped chasseur-style pants, and short dark blue jackets with red lacing or tombeaux. As time went on, this garb was replaced by Confederate uniforms and what clothing the men could purchase or otherwise obtain from civilians. Within months of arriving in Northern Virginia, Wheat's entire five-company battalion began to be called the Louisiana Tigers. The battalion first saw combat during the First Battle of Manassas, where it anchored the left flank on Matthews Hill for several hours until reinforcements arrived.
In early 1862, Wheat's Tigers were assigned Brig. Gen. Richard Taylor's First Louisiana Brigade in the army of Stonewall Jackson. They participated in his 1862 Valley Campaign, proving instrumental in Confederate victories at the battles of Front Royal, Winchester, and Port Republic.
In late spring, Jackson's force was sent eastward to participate in the Peninsula Campaign. Following Wheat's death at the Battle of Gaines' Mill, his battalion was merged with Coppens' Zouaves within the Army of Northern Virginia. The combined unit was heavily depleted during the Northern Virginia Campaign and the subsequent Maryland Campaign, where its leader, Colonel Auguste Gaston Coppens, was killed. The amalgamated battalion was disbanded shortly after the Battle of Antietam and the men dispersed among other units.

The 10th LA. Infantry regiment mention in the thread was call "Lee's Foreign Legion". They fought until only 4 officers and 13 men surrendered at Appomattox..
 
I Doubt

anyone of Ilalian heritage, wants to take any great deal of credit, for the Confederacy losing the war, and losing across its entire territory in only four years.
 
Dear The Iron Duke;

Naval wise, when the stars and bars are posted upside-down; it means "trouble I need help."

Could this have been the case?

I do know lately, the Illegal Hispanics hung the American Flag out of protest and disrespect to the American Flag not all that long ago; as they felt they were entitled to citizen's rights and protections. Perhaps, it means their protest--disrespect.

Computer photographs can be corrected and turned to where they are right side up. So, I have to wonder about the 'message' about the flag's positioning. Can be innocent to sinister.

Just some thoughts.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
M. E. Wolf
 
It is possible that the flag is not upside down, but the breeze had twisted it just as the photog snapped his picture.
 
Your toy soldiers are replica's of Major Wheat's "LA. tigers" Special Brigade. The wore Zouaves a French type uniform.

I disagree. The Zouave uniform is quite familiar and I don't think that resembles the ones depicted in the toy soldiers.

The toy soldiers are wearing uniforms and wide-brim hats very similiar to the Italian uniform of the time---except for color of the tunic. The tunic is long and has high collar and no sash as seen on the Zouave.

Keep searching.

Steve
 
The 39th NY State Volunteers, a regiment whose members represented many European countries, was nicknamed the 'Garibaldi Guard' even though the Italians were a distinct minority within its ranks, 1 Co. I believe.
To me the interesting part is that most of the Italians in ther 39th were veterans and/or supporters of Garibaldi and it would have been interesting, if the ex-Bourbon Italians and ex-Garibaldi Italians had ever met on the battle field; which, of course, they didn't.
 
The 39th NY State Volunteers, a regiment whose members represented many European countries, was nicknamed the 'Garibaldi Guard' even though the Italians were a distinct minority within its ranks, 1 Co. I believe.
To me the interesting part is that most of the Italians in ther 39th were veterans and/or supporters of Garibaldi and it would have been interesting, if the ex-Bourbon Italians and ex-Garibaldi Italians had ever met on the battle field; which, of course, they didn't.

The 10th LA and the 39th NY were on the same battlefields form Gettysburg until Cold Harbor. After Cold Harbor the 39th NY. enlistments were up...I do not know if they face off during any battles..
 

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