ID these two cannons.

[major bill]

I am at the State of Michigan History Museum. They have a photo of the Michigan Capitol showing Civil War battle flags that includes two cannons. I tell visitors they are 'cannons' but do not elaborate. The truth is I am not sure about them. Can anyone ID these cannons?

 

[Rhea Cole]

Wish I could read the sign. Looks like HANDS OFF.

I don't know for sure what this is. However the proportions & profile are much like the rare Blakely on this link. There are several detail photos.

Link

[CIVIL WAR] Confederate Type II Blakely Rifled Cannon

Rare Confederate Imported 4-inch, 18-pounder Fawcett Preston, Blakely Pattern Rifled Cannon. EXTREMELY RARE CONFEDERATE CANNON WITH A RICH AND TRACEABLE HISTORY With the serial number 137 stamped on both the muzzle face and the right trunnion, this extraordinary 4-inch, 18-pounder gun's...

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[Rusk County Avengers]

I am at the State of Michigan History Museum. They have a photo of the Michigan Capitol showing Civil War battle flags that includes two cannons. I tell visitors they are 'cannons' but do not elaborate. The truth is I am not sure about them. Can anyone ID these cannons? View attachment 587853

The forward gun, is a Confederate Tredegar "M1862" 2.25in Mountain Rifle. The rear gun is identified as a "Travis Stockton" cannon. I don't know anything of the later….

This information is taken from a copy of Antique Ordnance Publishers blueprints for the M1862. Which also appears on the cover.

It also mentions both guns were scrapped in 1944, and that only the tubes were scrapped. The carriage was left to rot and thankfully the metal parts survived to be documented.

Funny I'd see this post as, literally a few minutes ago shooting the bird with experienced hand on finally using the blueprints.

 

[Rusk County Avengers]

An older thread:

Forrest Thread 'TRAVIS GUNS for Gen. Forrest?'

Mar 13, 2015

For you artillery people out there - What are Travis guns?

"A Battery for Gen. Forrest--By request of the citizens of Montgomery Manager Crisp gave a benefit Tuesday night in the Montgomery Theatre, to increase by its proceeds the subscription fund, now being raised by the people of the Confederacy, to present to the "war eagle," N. B. Forrest, for the use of his command a light battery composed of the newly invented "Travis Guns."

From an article dated, Dec. 5, 1864.

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[major bill]

As a docent I rarely hang out in the temp room which the museum changes every few months. For two hours today not a single visitor was at the Michigan History Museum. I decided to visit the temp room because that room has an item I brought back from the Gulf War. As long as I was not occupied, I decided to watch the Civil War flag slide show on the large monitor.

This blown up image is next to the monitor. With nothing to do I got thinking about the photo. The photo is intended to add to the Civil War Flag slide show and the single flag in the rotating real flag dusplay. They keep the display dark to protect the flag and you push a button to light it up.

In the two hours I sat there I got wondering what should be my response if some visitor asked about the cannons in the photo and if they are related to the Michigan Civil War flags. I am not a cannon guy and "They are cannon, cannons" seemed like a weak response. So now I could tell interested visitors what they are.

Thank you all for the responses.