Help identify rank, Union or Confederate, etc...

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I’m very appreciative for all the replies to my post of 2 photos a couple days ago. From that I learned a lot and have since identified the rank on some of my other photos in my collection. So far all Union / Federal boys.
I’m pretty sure I have one Confederate photo and I’ve included it below. Please share/educate me with any info regarding what State he’s from, type of uniform, type of weapons, rank, rough approx value? He was part of a larger lot I bought at a Pennsylvania auction. I thank you in advance for your replies.
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I’m very appreciative for all the replies to my post of 2 photos a couple days ago. From that I learned a lot and have since identified the rank on some of my other photos in my collection. So far all Union / Federal boys.
I’m pretty sure I have one Confederate photo and I’ve included it below. Please share/educate me with any info regarding what State he’s from, type of uniform, type of weapons, rank, rough approx value? He was part of a larger lot I bought at a Pennsylvania auction. I thank you in advance for your replies.
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Without question a modern photograph, the collar of the jacket is a dead give a way. I have one very similar taken of me at a re-enactment, though my uniform collar is not so clownish.
 

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My suspicions are that this is a reenactor. The shadows look like this image was taken outdoors.
...Yet outdoors was common. It's rather that taking photos in sunlight was avoided to avoid strong shadow. Bright overcast was the preferred thing, for technical reasons.
 
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It’s odd that this collector who’s collection was very nice, eclectic, respectful and included all the items one would expect to see after a lifetime of love for American history & The Civil War would have such an obvious fake / modern photo (according to those of you who commented) labeled & inventoried as “unknown Confederate soldier, seated pose, Carde’ De Vista, UV fading.” I’m fairly certain that he believed it to be genuine in life & in death because his auctioned items when appropriate were represented and sold as post war/veteran owned, genuine authentic, or as I recall 2 items sold as reproduction.
With that said I will take your words and experienced opinions under advisement and proceed cautiously to a professional face to face authenticator. I do thank u much guys...gals, whomever is out there
 

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It’s odd that this collector who’s collection was very nice, eclectic, respectful and included all the items one would expect to see after a lifetime of love for American history & The Civil War would have such an obvious fake / modern photo (according to those of you who commented) labeled & inventoried as “unknown Confederate soldier, seated pose, Carde’ De Vista, UV fading.” I’m fairly certain that he believed it to be genuine in life & in death because his auctioned items when appropriate were represented and sold as post war/veteran owned, genuine authentic, or as I recall 2 items sold as reproduction.
With that said I will take your words and experienced opinions under advisement and proceed cautiously to a professional face to face authenticator. I do thank u much guys...gals, whomever is out there
In my own personal collection I have those I posted above, plus several more, all reproduction photos of myself and at least one displayed smack dab in the middle of my case otherwise full of authentic examples. It's a little joke and I'd like to see if anyone else looking at the collection could recognize the fake for what it is. Besides, since I'm interested in historic photography generally, I've had reproduced (using me as the model) tintypes, ambrotypes, albumen-type prints, as well as a wholly incorrect photo on aluminum plate! If you attend really large reenactment events like the 150th Shiloh below there are inevitably one or more modern Daguerrean artists who have set up shop and it's interesting to watch them working in exactly the same way as the pioneers of this art did 150 years ago:

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Above, photographer at work posing his subjects, period-style camera in foreground; below, the finished ambrotype.

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Ebay has these sometimes as genuine images of the era. There are so many, many misidentified images there it's awfully easy to get caught. What's amazing is any reenactor can spot one at 50 yards, another reason reenacting is so valuable.
 

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What was the process of getting the completed photo to the customer? Was it finished the same day or mailed to an address given at time of photo taking & payment?
I've known some guys have had these done at events and usually have them taken on a Friday or Saturday and they are able to have them ready before the end of the weekend.
 
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I've known some guys have had these done at events and usually have them taken on a Friday or Saturday and they are able to have them ready before the end of the weekend.
I’m sorry I should have been more specific. I didn’t mean in modern times. My question was a historic one. Has anyone read about the photo taking process back in 1861-1865? A soldier gets his photo taken and then waits how long for the development process and how does the photographer get the completed image to the soldier?

•••Is the below full plate tintype (soldier in green) authentic, I bought it as authentic and if so what’s the approximate value.
By the way, anytime I ask this group a question about authenticity I want you to know that I’m being genuine and sincere in my request. No tricks or games. I’m wanting to learn. A gentleman named James responded to one of my recent authenticity question posts and he started by saying “Nice try, ........” as if he caught me trying to convince you otherwise? Maybe I interpreted that wrong but just in case I didn’t I want folks to know that my questions are sincere. I’m curious about value of this one not b/c it’s for sale but because I like it and haven’t seen many. Thanks guys/gals!•••

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I’m sorry I should have been more specific. I didn’t mean in modern times. My question was a historic one. Has anyone read about the photo taking process back in 1861-1865? A soldier gets his photo taken and then waits how long for the development process and how does the photographer get the completed image to the soldier?

•••Is the below full plate tintype (soldier in green) authentic, I bought it as authentic and if so what’s the approximate value.
By the way, anytime I ask this group a question about authenticity I want you to know that I’m being genuine and sincere in my request. No tricks or games. I’m wanting to learn. A gentleman named James responded to one of my recent authenticity question posts and he started by saying “Nice try, ........” as if he caught me trying to convince you otherwise? Maybe I interpreted that wrong but just in case I didn’t I want folks to know that my questions are sincere. I’m curious about value of this one not b/c it’s for sale but because I like it and haven’t seen many. Thanks guys/gals!•••

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Sorry I misunderstood the question. I'm not really sure how long the process took back then. I'm sure somebody will fill us in. I'm sure James didn't mean anything by that, there's a great bunch of folks here that are happy to help so keep posting.
 

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I’m sorry I should have been more specific. I didn’t mean in modern times. My question was a historic one. Has anyone read about the photo taking process back in 1861-1865? A soldier gets his photo taken and then waits how long for the development process and how does the photographer get the completed image to the soldier?

•••Is the below full plate tintype (soldier in green) authentic, I bought it as authentic and if so what’s the approximate value.
By the way, anytime I ask this group a question about authenticity I want you to know that I’m being genuine and sincere in my request. No tricks or games. I’m wanting to learn. A gentleman named James responded to one of my recent authenticity question posts and he started by saying “Nice try, ........” as if he caught me trying to convince you otherwise? Maybe I interpreted that wrong but just in case I didn’t I want folks to know that my questions are sincere. I’m curious about value of this one not b/c it’s for sale but because I like it and haven’t seen many. Thanks guys/gals!•••

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Very cool. This one looks authentic to me. I have yet to see a Civil War reenactor in a hand-colored tintype for the record.
 

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I’m very appreciative for all the replies to my post of 2 photos a couple days ago. From that I learned a lot and have since identified the rank on some of my other photos in my collection. So far all Union / Federal boys.
I’m pretty sure I have one Confederate photo and I’ve included it below. Please share/educate me with any info regarding what State he’s from, type of uniform, type of weapons, rank, rough approx value? He was part of a larger lot I bought at a Pennsylvania auction. I thank you in advance for your replies.
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My first reaction was that it is a reenactor too. Is it a paper print? If it was Civil War era, I would expect it to be an albumen print, which it does not look like. It doesn't look like a later 1800s/early 1900s silver gelatin print (most common type of the later era) to me either.
 



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