Hatfields and McCoys

[jpeter]

Why are hillbilly murders so hard to solve?

The DNA is all the same and there are no dental records.


Budda bing budda boom.

 

[Delhi Rangers]

Well, 13.9 million people watched the first episode, so the History Channel is very, very happy. It sort of set a record apparently for a non-sportscast on a cable network that uses advertising.

Heard the same thing on the radio today. The History Channel knocked it out of the park on this one! One of the most enjoyable, interesting shows that I have watched on TV for a long time.

 

[diane]

They did indeed! Scoring Kevin Costner was a coup for them, and he brought along other top actors. Maybe they're over their Ice Truckers/et al funk and will see they can actually prosper being a history channel!

 

[Dave Hull]

Remi

Why are hillbilly murders so hard to solve?

The DNA is all the same and there are no dental records.


Budda bing budda boom.

Reminds me of my wife's favorite WV joke, "What do you get when you have 106 women attending a Ladies Auxiliary Meeting at the American Legion Post in Welch WV?"

Wait for it...

" A full set of teeth."

 

[ole]

They did indeed! Scoring Kevin Costner was a coup for them, and he brought along other top actors. Maybe they're over their Ice Truckers/et al funk and will see they can actually prosper being a history channel!

Costner, like many of his movies, produced "Hatfields & McCoys." But it does look like he didn't birth a turkey this time.

 

[ole]

Why are hillbilly murders so hard to solve?

The DNA is all the same and there are no dental records.


Budda bing budda boom.

Had to share that with Dear One. It was horribly stereotypically biased, but it was funny.

 

[Glorybound]

Wow, just finished watching the 3rd and last episode, what a tragedy. (referring to the real-life feud) As far as the show itself, I'd give it a thumbs-up if I were a critic. Emmy award winning portrayals in my opinion by Paxton, Costner, Boothe, and even though I despised his character - Tom Berenger. (Thanks to Nate for posting the info that Uncle Jim was played by Berenger, I doubt if I would have caught it otherwise) He (Uncle Jim) did redeem himself to a degree in the end when he was dying, he crawled to his beloved dog who had been shot and put it out of it's pain quickly). I reckon there's some good in everybody.

 

[oldpete63]

Wow, just finished watching the 3rd and last episode, what a tragedy. (referring to the real-life feud) As far as the show itself, I'd give it a thumbs-up if I were a critic. Emmy award winning portrayals in my opinion by Paxton, Costner, Boothe, and even though I despised his character - Tom Berenger. (Thanks to Nate for posting the info that Uncle Jim was played by Berenger, I doubt if I would have caught it otherwise) He (Uncle Jim) did redeem himself to a degree in the end when he was dying, he crawled to his beloved dog who had been shot and put it out of it's pain quickly). I reckon there's good in everybody.

I agree - incredible - History Channel finally threw a winner out there - it's so well played - it's like watching a small leak in a dam that just keeps getting bigger - I'm 1 episode behind (story of my life ).

 

[donna]

Have really enjoyed this production on the History channel. I think Kevin Costner did a superb job both acting and directing. I learned so much about the Hatfields and McCoys . Let us hope the channel has more like this one.

 

[JPK Huson 1863]

It really was an awesome production, well done History Channel, yes, and Kevin Costner! Yes, I agree, how on earth more seasons can they get out of grumpy truck drivers? They stuck to the facts, too, pretty much if Wiki's version is accurate.( Of course had to go look it up to see what was going to occur the next day! ) I guess with a story that incredible, no need to embellish, wow.

I'd always thought the original feud had begun with the pig, which seems to have sparked part of it but the war tension looks to have been a huge part of the story with that murder of the ex-Union soldier on day 1. I never knew that part.

 

[jpeter]

By the way, for those people who had trouble understanding the dialogue, try turning on "closed caption" on your television. It's worth it. especially if you've already seen it without closed caption.

You'll get you chance to see it again. They will replay this for weeks.

My only real annoyance was at the end when, just before rolling the credits at the end, they put up text of what actually happened to all of the characters at the end of their lives. You couldn't really read it because it only stayed up for a second. I like a longer context, and I don't like to be hurried through stuff like that.

 

[diane]

Ah, going to have to not look here today - I have to wait a bit for the last installment! A dog dies? Well, that seems to be Kevin Costner's signature - his wolf, his mule...any pet creature in the movie is like the guy in the red shirt on Star Trek...

 

[bama46]

By the way, for those people who had trouble understanding the dialogue, try turning on "closed caption" on your television. It's worth it. especially if you've already seen it without closed caption.

You'll get you chance to see it again. They will replay this for weeks.

My only real annoyance was at the end when, just before rolling the credits at the end, they put up text of what actually happened to all of the characters at the end of their lives. You couldn't really read it because it only stayed up for a second. I like a longer context, and I don't like to be hurried through stuff like that.

I can only watch TeeVee if it is closed captioned... the captioning was very slow on this one.. often times, the scene had ended before teh CC dialogue appeared on the screen... very annoying

 

[wilber6150]

Is it just me or are the Hatfields coming across as sort of the victims who were pushed into the feud? To me Costner keeps coming across as the peaceful man who just wanted to make amends with McCoy but keeps getting pushed away..

 

[jpeter]

I can only watch TeeVee if it is closed captioned... the captioning was very slow on this one.. often times, the scene had ended before teh CC dialogue appeared on the screen... very annoying

I have to use CC as well if there's a real storyline I need to follow. CC dialogue is never very consistent, but I've gotten to rely on it. I've got Tinnitus in one ear, so I miss a lot of soft consonants like "s" and "th" when it comes through speakers. By the time I've figured out what was said, I've lost a bit of the following story.

Being hard-of-hearing is a real nuisance if you're into birds. Being REAL hard-of-hearing just sucks altogether.

 

[jpeter]

Is it just me or are the Hatfields coming across as sort of the victims who were pushed into the feud? To me Costner keeps coming across as the peaceful man who just wanted to make amends with McCoy but keeps getting pushed away..

Yeah, McCoy dies drunk in a fit of rage, and Hatfield dies after being saved by the Lord at a Baptismal ceremony. I have a feeling there might be more to the later story than that.

There appeared to be a slight slant in the Hatfield direction.

 

[oldpete63]

Is it just me or are the Hatfields coming across as sort of the victims who were pushed into the feud? To me Costner keeps coming across as the peaceful man who just wanted to make amends with McCoy but keeps getting pushed away..

It's got me twisted - Costner's the bad guy - No, Paxton's the bad guy - No, Costner's the bad guy (I never denied I have problems ). I think that is what makes this show so good (and the story) - instead of the old good guy in the white hat versus the bad guy in the black hat - this one is hard to tell.

 

[bama46]

I have to use CC as well if there's a real storyline I need to follow. CC dialogue is never very consistent, but I've gotten to rely on it. I've got Tinnitus in one ear, so I miss a lot of soft consonants like "s" and "th". By the time I've figured out what was said, I've lost a bit of the following story.

real time captioning is always slow as the captioning people do not have an advance script to work from... Recorded programs, movies, shows and the like are captioned ahead of time and are usually much closer to the action than was the case with the Hatfields and McCoys.
If i did not have the captioning and my hearing aids, i would have no bneed whatsoever for the sound button... all consonants, all vowels, all musical notes and all thunder, trees crashing, bullets flying, bombs exploding and whatever else happens would be as silent as a ghost for me... stone, dead deaf!

 

[jpeter]

real time captioning is always slow as the captioning people do not have an advance script to work from... Recorded programs, movies, shows and the like are captioned ahead of time and are usually much closer to the action than was the case with the Hatfields and McCoys.
If i did not have the captioning and my hearing aids, i would have no bneed whatsoever for the sound button... all consonants, all vowels, all musical notes and all thunder, trees crashing, bullets flying, bombs exploding and whatever else happens would be as silent as a ghost for me... stone, dead deaf!

Yeah, that must stink.

I guess I should be happy CC even exists. At least I can manage a television show like this one from time to time.

 

[bobs0651]

one of many things at the end that knots my gut is when that poor, slow boy is hanged.... he was in fact an innocent child placed in a situation he could never imagine, he did not have the mental facilities of a 'normal' adult person that would equip him to process things as an adult.
all said, i know he was to be the scapegoat, i believe costner agreed to do so? but he was just a boy in a hostile world.
i pray God this never happens again, anywhere to anyone.