Hatfields and McCoys

Yeah, and he finally gets religion. I saw a definite "good guys/bad guys" slant.
It just seemed to me that Costner's character was the one always trying to be trying to be concillatory while Paxton's character kept blowing him off..I'm trying to think of a scene, in the parts I've seen so far where McCoy had offered the olive branch, but none come to mind...
 
wilber6150 said:
It just seemed to me that Costner's character was the one always trying to be trying to be concillatory while Paxton's character kept blowing him off..I'm trying to think of a scene, in the parts I've seen so far where McCoy had offered the olive branch, but none come to mind...

The only thing I saw like that was when McCoy comes to visit his sons in the barn and says, "Is there anything I can say or give you that would change your mind on this."
 
It just seemed to me that Costner's character was the one always trying to be trying to be concillatory while Paxton's character kept blowing him off..I'm trying to think of a scene, in the parts I've seen so far where McCoy had offered the olive branch, but none come to mind...
It might've ended sooner if Anse had allowed those three boys to be tried in WVa. So he had a big share of the blame.
 
TerryB said:
To me the most quotable quote was Anse to the Tom Berenger character, "If you believe in the cause so much, how come you never joined up?" The response was a good deal less than.

That was a great quote. Especially coming from a deserter.
 
You live by the sword. You die by the sword. You reap what you sow.

That character was the central casting print out of a mean SOB alright. One would think a man like that would and should really value family as such a person hardly seems likely to make friends easily if at all. Still I could see a certain bond between him and Anse's son Cap especially regarding Cap's marksmanship and his ability to kill quickly when an opportunity or threat appeared.
 
Aunt Betty deserved shooting as well, for turning away Johnse when he went to see Roseanna. What's that saying about good deeds?

I guess what we're all saying is that the characters were written true to life. That's what made Jim Vance so real--he was just funny and entertaining enough that he kept scooting by--when all along, he was one of the ones who was causing so much trouble.

And the scene with Anse dancing....yep, it was well worth it!
 
Didn't he look like, "Jeez, I don't want to be doing this, but the little woman wanted to dance"? I LOL'd.
 
Cap reminded me of the young guy on Swamp People. LOL

Going from Hatfield and McCoys to Swamp People tonight will be a big letdown. But Troy is suppose to be feuding in tonight's episode with the native-american swamper. It's Hatfields and McCoys Part II in the Swamp! Cajun style. :D
 
Delhi Rangers said:
Going from Hatfield and McCoys to Swamp People tonight will be a big letdown. But Troy is suppose to be feuding in tonight's episode with the native-american swamper. It's Hatfields and McCoys Part II in the Swamp! Cajun style. :D

Troy is my favorite swamp person!
 
I don't know the character's name, but when he used the word incognito it sort of soured it for me. I don't believe backwoods people in that day and age would have been able to use that word in a sentemce,

Mulejack
Backwoods doesn't mean ignorant. In those days and time many "backwoods" people were well versed in the English language.:thumbsup:
 
Backwoods doesn't mean ignorant. In those days and time many "backwoods" people were well versed in the English language.:thumbsup:

Sure I forgot about most of those backwoods people went to Yale Or harvard back in the 1870's. I didn't hear them mention anything about the schools in those backwoods areas of Kentucky and West Virginia.

Mulejack
 
Sure I forgot about most of those backwoods people went to Yale Or harvard back in the 1870's. I didn't hear them mention anything about the schools in those backwoods areas of Kentucky and West Virginia.

Mulejack
Yale and Harvard wasn't the only place to learn. They were well read as that was a popular form of intertainment back then. I guess they have to mention it if they went to school or had a school. Abe Lincoln went to school in Knob Creek, Kentucky and was a true "backwoods" kid growing up. He walked four miles to get there. A very uneducated and ignorant man? I don't think so. Where did they go to school in Bullhead City back then? Apaches were killing everyone in the Arizona Territory during the late 1800's.:wink:
 
Sure I forgot about most of those backwoods people went to Yale Or harvard back in the 1870's. I didn't hear them mention anything about the schools in those backwoods areas of Kentucky and West Virginia.

Mulejack

I will say though, for the early part of the 20th century, you see a larger and richer vocabulary in the typical adult - even the poor. Anyone that's picked up middle school English text books from the first quarter of the 20th century can see the difference in vocabulary. It's something that stands out when you read school text books from that era.
 
Sure I forgot about most of those backwoods people went to Yale Or harvard back in the 1870's. I didn't hear them mention anything about the schools in those backwoods areas of Kentucky and West Virginia.

Mulejack
One needn't go to a fancy school to be literate.
 
I will say though, for the early part of the 20th century, you see a larger and richer vocabulary in the typical adult - even the poor. Anyone that's picked up middle school English text books from the first quarter of the 20th century can see the difference in vocabulary. It's something that stands out when you read school text books from that era.


My Dad's side of the family was a lot like these folks - there was one Cherokee kept Tennessee marshals at bay for three days! Shooting at them out of his store. Ran out of ammo, though, and finally had to yell, "All right! You got me. Ain't no more bullets!" But there's something to be said for self-educated. My father's family was upper crust - this is something doesn't get much mentioned. There was an 'upper crust' betwixt the white farmers and the planters of black, Indian and mixed bloods - mostly self educated. I listen to the old folks from his side and I'm always amazed at the color and vividness of the language. Mom's side, too. The pictures inside your head came from their use of the language - you saw coyote, crow, all the mythological doings as if they were on a screen!
 
It's got me twisted - Costner's the bad guy - No, Paxton's the bad guy - No, Costner's the bad guy (I never denied I have problems :wink:). I think that is what makes this show so good (and the story) - instead of the old good guy in the white hat versus the bad guy in the black hat - this one is hard to tell.


Thats cause in real life it was a feud where no one was really right. Misunderstandings turned into words, turned into fights turned into killings, turned into more and more killings. It was tragic yet captivating. I think the two biggest victims in the whole story were Cottontop and Roseanna.

Great story and the fact that its all based on a true story makes it so much better.
 

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